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Extension of the intended lifetime of products

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  • The discussion focuses on practical ways to extend the trouble-free life of household electronics by cutting standby power, easing LED stress, and protecting relay contacts.
  • It recommends switched extension cords or plugs, external DC supplies for radio relays, lower LED drive current, series relay contacts, and current-limiting resistors in toys.
  • Specific values include 12V or 5V supplies for radio relays and a 150-500Ω series resistor for luminous toy LEDs.
  • Reducing idle hours can extend uptime and slightly cut energy use, but it does not prevent mechanical wear or failures in triacs and relays.
  • Some devices should stay powered, such as radio alarm clocks and appliances using delayed-start cycles, and water-fed appliances should have the supply valve closed when idle.
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Mechanical clock and smartwatch on a desk.
The struggle to keep product prices low forces compromises that may reduce uptime. Do you use solutions to extend the trouble-free operation of electronic devices?

Equipment running on stand-by .
For appliances without a mechanical power switch that completely cuts off the power supply for years I use extension cords with a switch, or even plugs with a built-in switch. TVs, set-top boxes, monitors, washing machines, dishwashers, microwaves do not need to run on stand-by. A common failure is damage to the power supply through depletion or a power surge. The disadvantage of unplugging the power supply is incorrect time on the built-in clock or longer start-up time of the decoder.... Of course, there are appliances that are worth having a continuous power supply e.g. radio alarm clocks or washing machine/dishwasher where we have set the cycle to start in 5 hours when there is a cheaper tariff. Fewer idle hours under power can extend the life of equipment. We will also minimally reduce energy consumption by doing this. Of course, this does not affect mechanical wear and tear, or electronic damage to e.g. triacs and executive relays switching high-power loads such as heaters. For household appliances connected to the water mains, it is advisable to turn off the water supply with a valve when not in use to reduce the risk of flooding.

Continuous flow controls .
Convenient solutions are back box or rail-mounted radio remote-controlled relays. Such devices are often enclosed in a box when retrofitting an installation. I have noticed two types of power supplies for radio relays, these are either transformerless power supplies or switched-mode power supplies. In the first, the film capacitor loses capacitance or the Zener diode is damaged. Switch-mode power supplies, on the other hand, become damaged over time due to the ageing of the electrolytic capacitors or, more often, damage to the inverter circuit. The actuator of the devices is the relay and the rest of the circuit is galvanically isolated, so I specify an external DC power supply. Usually radio relays require a 12V or some newer 5V supply. I happened to use "12V" DC from a nearby buffer power supply to power such devices after reworking the power supply circuit and changing the markings on the case. Using a transformer power supply to power a group of such devices significantly extends their uptime.

LED lighting .
In the days of incandescent lighting, soft starts extended the life of incandescent bulbs by eliminating the current surge on the cold filament. LED lighting is often price-optimised and LEDs are forced to operate with high current and poor cooling. For LEDs in the form of 'bulbs', modifications are difficult. However, for off-the-shelf plafonds and illuminators with an external or built-in DC power supply, more advanced electronics engineers can lower the value of the forced current . The brightness of the source decreases, but the failure-free time increases significantly.

. Firing relay contacts .
A well-known trick of experienced electronics engineers is to connect sections of relay contacts in series often switching large currents. This method significantly increased the relay's failure-free operating time. Nowadays, one can consider the SSSR relay module . A solid-state 'relay' does not have mechanical contacts, but you have to reckon with the power loss on the triac/ thyristors and less resistance to current and voltage surges. One can also think of a so-called 'perpetual relay' where the switching operations are performed by the semiconductor element, then the EMR relay contacts are connected in parallel to the semiconductor.

Toys that quickly drain batteries or break down .
In many toys with luminescent elements, the LEDs run at high current, which gradually damages the LEDs and quickly drains the battery. Simply selecting a series resistor of 150-500Ω (depending on the circuit and supply voltage) will significantly extend the battery life. The current-limiting resistor is often overlooked by far-left manufacturers of various luminescent toys, and the conversion is very simple. In toys equipped with motors, it is worth considering the use of accumulators to reduce the number of disposable cells and batteries.

Do you use solutions to extend the trouble-free operation of electronic devices?

Have you noticed which devices break down frequently after the warranty period has expired and what causes the breakdown?

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Comments

Ryszard49 18 Feb 2025 20:19

. They must e.g. SONY. [Read more]

TechEkspert 18 Feb 2025 20:22

Why. Any smartTVs? [Read more]

Ryszard49 18 Feb 2025 21:39

. As you wrote. [Read more]

elukam 18 Feb 2025 22:30

. Yes, mainly mains filters and systems to reduce the current surge of low-quality power supplies. Although in general the lifetime of a chump is not affected, it is important not to do other damage. ... [Read more]

Mobali 18 Feb 2025 23:29

It is not an easy subject, because cost-cutting does not only apply to electronics. Materials in particular are becoming increasingly inferior; weaker and short-lived plastics or metals are being replaced... [Read more]

szeryf3 19 Feb 2025 08:52

I personally don't take anything offline. Unless I'm going away for a long time. Then I turn off the TV on the strip and turn off the water and gas. [Read more]

krzbor 19 Feb 2025 09:48

I would like to draw attention to the 'Chinese' amps. Similar looking devices. We will have 10A on the branded one and 16A on the unbranded one. This applies to everything - power supply capacity, power... [Read more]

stomat 19 Feb 2025 09:55

Unfortunately, more and more often the scheduled operating time is stored in software and here nothing can be done anymore. We have all heard of printers reporting half-empty cartridges, short operating... [Read more]

TechEkspert 19 Feb 2025 10:20

Deliberate software blocking of operations is already a malicious action of the manufacturer, such a situation is hard to fight. Perhaps apart from refraining from buying the products of such a manufacturer. Some... [Read more]

kris8888 19 Feb 2025 10:48

Some switching-mode power supplies are, against all appearances, better when they operate non-stop than when they experience the cyclical 'current surge' associated with switching off and on again. Sometimes... [Read more]

John Yossarian 19 Feb 2025 11:19

Led bulbs can be extended in life by removing the burnt diode. We remove the bulb:) of the bulb, locate the burnt-out diode (visible small dot on the surface), remove it mechanically and solder (short-circuit)... [Read more]

James596 19 Feb 2025 13:05

It's hard to fight planned obsolescence when even such "fiddly things" as LED displays in white goods can go out of date shortly after the end of the warranty. This is slowly turning into a situation... [Read more]

Kiermasz 19 Feb 2025 20:01

I there a very simple way to eliminate basic faults before they occur. I simply test the EMI emitted by the inverters. The interference starts to grow beyond the statistic for the efficient = soon it... [Read more]

TechEkspert 19 Feb 2025 20:07

"Incandescent" LED bulbs in which the casing can be easily removed do indeed have the potential to be repaired and electro-waste can be reduced in this way. @kris8888 some switch mode power supplies... [Read more]

Kiermasz 19 Feb 2025 20:48

. It will work, just arrange for some RF attenuator so the background doesn't interfere and AGC of a typical receiver. Rarely, but by ear you can be fooled and thus the level of interference can be... [Read more]

kris8888 20 Feb 2025 01:11

That's right. It used to be that even old, high-speed SCSI drives were recommended not to be switched off, better when they were spinning non-stop (e.g. in a server). Such disks were able to work this... [Read more]

szym86 20 Feb 2025 01:45

I do not see a problem, and even if I did, according to Murphy's Law the thing will break in a different way than I would expect. I sometimes consciously leave a drill or a grinder in the rain, because... [Read more]

Mobali 20 Feb 2025 02:52

Somehow right, but let's not get crazy. Many appliances have been able to serve successfully without constant updates and without being replaced by a newer model. Simple white goods, for example... What... [Read more]

James596 20 Feb 2025 08:13

And there have already been cases of devices with a built-in internet tuner, where the tuner stopped working after a few years, because the manufacturer gave up cooperation with some supplier. ;) Similar... [Read more]

FAQ

TL;DR: A simple 150–500Ω LED resistor mod and the rule "as long as it works, don’t switch it off" can both extend product life. This FAQ helps homeowners and electronics hobbyists decide when cutting standby power reduces failures, and when it actually blocks self-maintenance in printers, OLED TVs, and professional gear. [#21447213]

Why it matters: The thread shows that longer service life comes less from one universal trick and more from matching power, cooling, relay, and battery practices to the exact device.

Option Best use case Main benefit Main downside
Switch off at strip TVs, monitors, microwaves, idle appliances Fewer standby hours under power Clock reset, slower startup
Leave powered on Brother printers, LG OLED TVs, pro equipment Allows self-tests, cleaning, regeneration Continuous standby draw
SSR relay Frequent switching, vibration-heavy loads No mechanical contacts Voltage drop and heat
EMR relay + snubber Inductive loads with proper suppression Lower losses, familiar design Contact wear and arcing

Key insight: Do not treat every device the same. Cutting standby helps simple consumer appliances, but devices with head cleaning, OLED compensation, or continuous-duty design should stay powered.

Quick Facts

  • The thread gives a concrete LED toy modification range of 150–500Ω for a series resistor, chosen by circuit and supply voltage, to cut LED current and extend battery life. [#21445674]
  • Radio relay modules discussed in the thread typically use 12V DC or, in newer versions, 5V DC supplies; external DC powering was described as more durable than onboard transformerless supplies. [#21445674]
  • Battery-life extension on lithium devices was tied to an 80% charge limit: you lose about 20% immediate capacity, but slow long-term capacity degradation. [#21446349]
  • One repair case covered 25–30 LED light sources upgraded by replacing an electrolytic capacitor and improving cooling, with long service life afterward. [#21445998]
  • Software-enforced maintenance can be hard limits, not warnings: one industrial example cited a shutdown after about 250 hours until service or counter reset. [#21468083]

How can I safely extend the life of TVs, set-top boxes, monitors, washing machines, dishwashers, and microwaves by switching them off at the power strip instead of leaving them on standby?

You can extend life by cutting power to simple idle appliances that do not need standby functions. Use a power strip with a switch or a plug with a built-in switch. Turn off water-fed appliances with a valve when unused to reduce flood risk. Do not use this method for delayed-start cycles or devices that must retain active maintenance functions. The trade-off is clear: fewer hours under voltage, but you may lose the clock and wait longer for startup. [#21445674]

Which devices actually should stay powered on all the time, such as Brother printers, LG OLED TVs, Smart TVs, or professional measurement equipment, and what maintenance tasks do they perform in standby?

Devices with built-in maintenance routines should stay powered. The thread names Brother printers, LG OLED TVs, some Smart TVs, and professional instruments such as spectrometers and chromatographs. Brother printers perform periodic self-maintenance, and LG OLED TVs run panel “regeneration” after set operating hours. Professional equipment may also perform startup checks and continuous-duty routines. A user also noted two home devices specifically not recommended for regular unplugging from 230V: a Brother printer and an LG OLED TV. [#21447787]

Why do some switch-mode power supplies fail right after being unplugged and plugged back in, even though the device worked fine when left powered continuously?

They can fail on the next start because aging capacitors still support operation when continuously energized but cannot survive a fresh startup surge. One thread example described a partly dried capacitor after the bridge rectifier: the device worked while powered, then only ticked or chirped after unplugging and reconnecting. Another pattern appeared after long storage without power, where old capacitors failed with “fireworks” on restart. This behavior was repeatedly tied to cost-cut input circuits and weak startup margins. [#21447213]

What is an SSR relay module, and how does it compare with a traditional EMR relay for extending service life in high-current or frequently switched loads?

“SSR relay module” is a solid-state switching device that replaces moving contacts with semiconductor elements, offering no mechanical contact wear but introducing voltage drop, heat, and surge sensitivity. In the thread, SSRs were presented as useful for frequent switching and vibration-heavy applications. Traditional EMR relays still fit many loads because they waste less power and keep galvanic separation through physical contacts. For higher-current SSRs, heatsinks or even fan-cooled heatsinks were mentioned as normal support hardware. [#21448977]

What is an RC snubber or quench circuit, and how does it protect relay contacts when switching inductive loads?

An RC snubber is a relay protection network that reduces arc energy when contacts open an inductive load. The thread’s AI summary explicitly listed RC circuits, diodes, and varistors as quenching elements. Their role is simple: limit self-induced voltage spikes, reduce sparking, and slow contact erosion during disconnection. This matters most with coils, motors, and other inductive loads, where the opening arc is the main life-limiting event. Using the right suppression network is safer than forcing relay contacts into improvised configurations. [#21448983]

Series vs parallel relay contacts: which connection helps more with inductive loads, capacitive loads, arc suppression, and overall relay lifespan?

Series contact connection helps more with inductive-load disconnection, while parallel connection helps more with capacitive inrush at switching. The thread’s AI summary linked series contacts to arc splitting during opening, and parallel contacts to sharing surge current when charging capacitive inputs. Several users challenged the practical value of series wiring, noting timing differences, welded contacts, and failure concentration on the fastest contact. The safest conclusion from the discussion is pragmatic: use the correct relay class and add suppression, instead of relying on contact tricks alone. [#21448983]

How do I reduce LED lamp failure by lowering LED current, replacing dried thermal paste, or changing electrolytic capacitors in ceiling lights and LED bulbs?

You reduce LED lamp failures by cutting heat and current stress. Lower the forced LED current where the driver design allows it; brightness drops, but service life rises. In serviceable ceiling lights, users reported dried or missing thermal paste on the pseudo-heatsink, so replacing it improved cooling. Another repair pattern was replacing a failed electrolytic capacitor in LED bulbs. One participant rebuilt about 25–30 lamps this way after discovering repeated early failures. The thread consistently treated heat, overdrive, and weak capacitors as the main killers. [#21445998]

What is the proper way to repair an LED bulb by locating a failed diode and shorting its pads, and what risks does this method involve?

The thread describes a fast repair, but it is a compromise, not a universal best practice. 1. Remove the bulb cover and locate the failed LED, identified by a small visible dot. 2. Remove the bad diode mechanically. 3. Solder across its pads to short that position. The reported time was about 2 minutes. The risk is clear: you change the LED chain’s electrical balance, and the remaining LEDs may run under altered stress. Use this only on repairable bulbs where access is easy. [#21446444]

How can I power radio relay modules more reliably from an external 12V or 5V DC supply instead of their built-in transformerless or switching power supply?

You can improve reliability by bypassing the onboard supply and feeding the relay electronics from a stable external DC source. The thread states that many radio relays use 12V DC, while newer ones often use 5V DC. One user reworked the power section, powered several modules from nearby 12V buffer power, and changed the case markings accordingly. He reported that using a transformer-based supply for a group of such devices significantly improved uptime. Space limits inside small modules remain the main practical obstacle. [#21445674]

Why do cheap transformerless power supplies in relay modules fail from capacitor or Zener diode problems, and what replacement parts improve longevity?

They fail because the weakest parts are usually the dropper capacitor and Zener diode. The thread specifically states that transformerless relay supplies often lose film-capacitor capacitance or suffer Zener damage. One repair strategy was to remove the original film capacitor and fit an older, higher-quality capacitor salvaged from CRT TV horizontal-deflection or converter circuits. That mod was said to make the supply effectively last “forever,” with later failures more likely in the electrolytic capacitor or Zener. Larger replacement size was the main fitting problem. [#21447831]

What practical methods help protect home electronics from unstable mains voltage caused by overloaded grids or PV installations?

Use cleaner, more stable mains power for valuable equipment. The thread recommends feeding expensive devices with “good” voltage because daytime PV overproduction can push mains voltage unusually high, while evening demand can pull it low. One user specifically suggested a simple isolation-and-stabilization stage to protect home electronics, especially against failures in the switching power supplies widely used today. Another user added mains filters and inrush-reduction systems for lower-quality power supplies as useful preventive measures. [#21445998]

How do EMI measurements with an AM radio, S-meter, or portable SDR help predict failing capacitors or aging inverters before a device breaks down?

Rising EMI can act as an early warning that inverter capacitors are aging. One participant said he tracks emitted interference and treats growth beyond the normal baseline as a sign that capacitor service time is near. He suggested AM reception across shortwave bands, with an RF attenuator and ideally an S-meter, to make changes easier to judge. He also recommended a portable SDR because it shows more than a simple noise increase. This method was presented as a practical predictor before hard failure occurs. [#21447287]

What charging habits really extend lithium battery life, such as limiting charge to 80% or using adaptive charging in Motorola phones?

Limiting maximum charge to 80% is the clearest battery-life tactic named in the thread. A participant stated that you lose about 20% immediate capacity, but extend the time before noticeable capacity degradation. Another example came from Motorola phones, where adaptive charging learns a night routine, holds the battery near 80%, and tops it off shortly before wake-up. The thread framed these features as manufacturer-provided protection against aggressive charging habits and premature wear. [#21499122]

Why do some printers, smart TVs, internet tuners, phones, and industrial machines become unusable because of software counters, blocked features, or end of support?

They become unusable because software, not hardware, sets the operating limit. The thread cites printers refusing to print when a toner counter says replacement is due, internet tuners in older devices failing after supplier support ends, Smart TVs losing app usefulness, and industrial equipment stopping after maintenance counters trip. One industrial example even described a shutdown around 250 hours. Several users treated this as deliberate product control: blocked service, locked features, and forced maintenance that survive even when the hardware still works. [#21468655]

How can I make battery-powered toys last longer by adding a 150-500 ohm resistor to LEDs or switching from disposable cells to Ni-MH or Li-ion rechargeables?

Add a series resistor to LED toys and move high-drain toys to rechargeables. The thread gives a practical resistor range of 150–500Ω, depending on circuit and supply voltage, to cut LED current, reduce battery drain, and slow LED damage. For motorized toys and game controllers, several users recommended accumulators instead of disposable cells, with Ni-MH and Li-ion both mentioned. One user called a basket of rechargeable batteries a must-have in homes with children and battery-powered toys. [#21447205]
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