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Is the CA10P control panel sufficient for home light and alarm automation?

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Can a Satel CA10P handle home alarm and lighting automation, or do I need an Integra/PLC, and how should the relay output be wired?

The CA10P is not enough for this kind of lighting automation; an Integra can do light control and similar functions, preferably in a 64-zone version or WRL [#15451029] You do not need a PLC if you use Satel relay/output modules such as INT-IORS or INT-O to switch 230V AC loads [#15463824] [#15463872] Satel low-current outputs are ground-controlled and provide a constant 12V, so the relay coil should be driven from the output with a diode in parallel to protect the panel [#15453219] [#15462898] If you only have twisted pair at the switches, you can still use it with the bus as long as you do not put dTM and CKM/DT1 and CK1/DT2 and CK2 signals on the same pair [#15451458] For bistable switching, one option discussed is a two-coil bistable relay or a zero-voltage bistable relay module like PBM-05 [#15490029] [#15482434]
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  • #31 15482443
    v1cks
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    well, that's exactly what I need :)
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  • #32 15482506
    pafciowaw
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    On the website they have a tab: "Contract manufacturing".
    And I guess it's not a problem to pack the PBM-05 electronics into a can housing...?!
    Especially since the subject is brought up here because there might be a "market niche" (switchable element for the can, controlled by low voltage ....po twisted pair).
    "Sell" them the idea...hihi...for the small dozen pieces you need :)
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  • #34 15488406
    pafciowaw
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    For this you need a base - so it will be big anyway (most often the base is a TS35 rail component). The second problem is switching control: you need to feed the correct polarity for 'on' and the opposite for 'off'.
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  • #35 15489537
    v1cks
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    but why do I need a can holder? I only need to bring the connectors out to the PCB and it will fit somehow.
    worse, the integra has no possibility to change polarity...
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  • #36 15490029
    pafciowaw
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    Therefore, it is better to look for two-coil bistable relays, e.g.http://www.piekarz.pl/pl/?item=45074
    Two signals from the Integra: "on" - "off" to two coils.
  • #37 15490300
    v1cks
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    i don't know why, but I was convinced that every additional pulse on the coil turns the relay on/off.

    A two-coil is also a bit of a bummer because it takes up the outputs, and I still have to count the input from the switch so I can manually turn on the light too o_0
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