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DIY Repair Guide: BMW e61 Non-Operating Central Locks - Analyzing TDA 5210 System

Pluta Grzegorz 103065 66
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  • #61 20870475
    zx10norte
    Level 3  

    Great! Thank you for the info.
    I can't find the wrong component. And I try to check every part of the PCB.
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  • #62 20870972
    mihneamocodean
    Level 2  
    Send me a private message with a picture of the board so we can troubleshoot it together.
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  • #63 21071189
    oddbjorn
    Level 1  

    Hi
    Trying to find out why the remote key won't work on my E61
    Question
    When I power up the diversity module with 12v on pin 1 and 5, should I then get 4.5v on pin 2?

    Or does this pin get the voltage externally?
    I have 4.5v on the external cable but when I connect it to pin 2 it falls to 2.5v
    Nothing connected to pin 2 it measures 0v

    I find activity on the components when pressing button, but I believe that the low voltage on pin 2 is the problem?
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  • #64 21211879
    mastifflimited
    Level 1  
    oddbjorn wrote:

    Hi
    Trying to find out why the remote key won't work on my E61
    Question
    When I power up the diversity module with 12v on pin 1 and 5, should I then get 4.5v on pin 2?

    Or does this pin get the voltage externally?
    I have 4.5v on the external cable but when I connect it to pin 2 it falls to 2.5v
    Nothing connected to pin 2 it measures 0v

    I find activity on the components when pressing the button, but I believe that the low voltage on pin 2 is the problem?

    Hello,

    Bump on this question since I am having almost the same issue. The only difference is that I have about 4.5V on pin 2 (on the contact) whether it is connected or not, but if only connecting 12V on pin 1 and ground to pin 5, I get 0V on pin 2.

    I would greatly appreciate it if someone has the possibility to answer this.
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  • #65 21399038
    fabu2002
    Level 1  
    >>21211879 >>21211879
    Hi,

    When my module was working, it worked just like that. There seems to come +5 V from the car to pin 2. Would be awesome to know why? Is the pin 2 for communication between Diversity Module and other modules. And maybe diversity module creates communication signal by grounding this +5 V ?

    I would like to wake up this conversation because my door locks stopped working again with remote. There has been few questions about changing the NEC 12233766A prosessor but little answers. So is it also called a μPD789860 chip? And does it need to be programmed when replaced with a new one?

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    Pluta Grzegorz wrote:
    After replacing the processor everything works as it should. The processors are available in China and Russia. Unfortunately, many packages from China do not reach Poland and in Russia do not accept Polish payment cards.


    So were you able to find IC labeled "NEC 12233766A" and where did you buy it? Also, did you need to program the new one and how you did it?

    I would greatly appreciate if you or someone else could share their knowledge :)
  • #66 21580550
    sabithazzam
    Level 1  
    @Pluta Grzegorz hey did you fix this issue?
  • #67 21606340
    autosapper
    Level 6  
    Good afternoon. I have a question. How many ohms does the resistor have?
    Cylindrical resistor with colored bands lying on a white background. .

Topic summary

The discussion centers on diagnosing and repairing the BMW E61 central locking system failure, specifically focusing on the diversity module responsible for receiving remote control signals. The module incorporates a TDA 5210 radio receiver operating at 868-870 MHz with FSK modulation. A common failure point is the NEC microcontroller (often referenced as NEC 12233766A or μPD789860), which can cause loss of remote functionality and reduced radio range. Repair efforts include replacing the NEC processor, addressing corroded PCB tracks (notably under the antenna socket), and checking the antenna connection—a conductive film strip under the rear spoiler. The ceramic filter (CERAFIL® series) on the PCB is typically not faulty despite discoloration. Power supply issues on specific pins of the TDA 5210 (notably pin 27) and the module’s pin 2 (communication or power line) are critical diagnostic points. Repair services by community members, notably "JElo_masta," are recommended for module refurbishment. Programming the NEC microcontroller after replacement is a concern, but detailed procedures are scarce. The module’s operation depends on ignition state for voltage presence. Moisture damage and broken antenna connections are frequent causes of failure. Diagnostic tools like ISTA+ and Snap-on scanners provide limited insight, emphasizing the need for hands-on repair and testing on the vehicle. The discussion also highlights difficulties in sourcing genuine NEC microcontrollers and the impact of regional shipping restrictions.
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