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[Solved] Multi-channel thermostat in a modular system for electrical fittings

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  • #1 16744844
    Bartlomiej3441
    Level 7  
    Hello
    Purpose: to control the temperature of individual rooms with underfloor heating from one location,

    I would like to install a temperature controller in the house on the first floor which would be connected ,
    in one frame together with the staircase switches. Specifically a 3gang frame.
    The thermostat would have to control 4 zones, i.e. 4 separate rooms.
    And here I have a problem because all the thermostats I have found suitable for modular systems ,
    have single-channel control, i.e. they control one pump/valve for the underfloor heating.
    Is there a controller available that controls several valves/pumps for the underfloor heating, which I could install in one frame?
    so that I can control the temperature in several rooms from one place.
    Thank you for your reply and suggestions
    Bart
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  • #2 16745119
    burur
    Level 22  
    If such controllers exist then you will still need to run a temperature sensor from each room to the controller. I found something like this Link , but it is not for frame mounting.
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  • #3 16745172
    Bartlomiej3441
    Level 7  
    hmmm
    In this case, I would have to mount the executive module in an electrical box on a din rail.
    connect it via RJ45 cable to the controller, i.e. a few metres.
    and the temperature sensors in the screed or maybe under the parquet, or maybe on the wall as an additional device.
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  • #4 16745226
    burur
    Level 22  
    Without temperature sensors, there is no way around it; the controller needs to know what the room temperature is.
  • #5 16745369
    Bartlomiej3441
    Level 7  
    one more thing ;-)
    maybe not in this section but maybe someone can give me a hint, I would like to make a second box on the first floor so I don't have to pull all the cables to the basement - quite a lot of it.
    Upstairs I have a kitchen, a living room, a bedroom and a corridor, if I pull a 6mm2 x5 cable from the main box to the upstairs box, is this a sufficient cross-section?
    According to my power consumption calculations it should be enough. why pull 10mm2.

    Added after 9 [minutes]: .

    regarding the controller temperature sensors, do you mount them in the screed or under the floor?
    Up to now, I have been installing electric mats - the sensor that was there was simply poured over, for example, with glue if it was tiles.
    There will be parquet flooring upstairs, with water underfloor heating.
    In order not to make a mess, I chose a system that is rather uncommon in Poland:
    http://www.lithotherm-system.de/system.html
    You lay expanded clay slabs which are then poured with self-levelling compound.
    So I understand that I have to mount the temperature sensor somewhere in this mass.
    Does it have to be mounted somewhere on the wall?
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  • #6 16745806
    burur
    Level 22  
    I'm not an expert in this field, but I have seen some underfloor heating systems recently, where the installer put regulators on the wall in the room which controlled the valve from a particular circuit in the manifold boxes.
    This controller to which I gave a link earlier does not control the valves proportionally only open-close.
  • #7 17186602
    Bartlomiej3441
    Level 7  
    Unfortunately I could not find a multi-channel thermostat. I connected 4 solenoid valves to his. This will result in the same temperature settings.

Topic summary

The discussion addresses the challenge of controlling underfloor heating temperature in multiple rooms from a single location using a modular multi-channel thermostat. The user seeks a thermostat that fits into a 3-gang frame and can independently control four zones (rooms) with separate valves or pumps. Existing modular thermostats typically offer only single-channel control. It is noted that multi-channel controllers require individual temperature sensors in each room to function properly. One suggested solution involves mounting the executive control module on a DIN rail in an electrical box, connected via RJ45 cable to the main controller, with temperature sensors placed in the screed, under parquet flooring, or on walls. Some underfloor heating systems use wall-mounted regulators controlling valves in manifold boxes, but these often operate in simple open-close mode rather than proportional control. The user also considers electrical wiring concerns for a secondary control box on the first floor, discussing cable cross-section requirements. Despite efforts, no suitable multi-channel thermostat was found; instead, multiple solenoid valves were connected to a single controller, resulting in uniform temperature settings across zones. The user references the Lithotherm system, which uses expanded clay slabs poured with a special mixture for underfloor heating installation under parquet floors.
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