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Control of solenoid valves and RGB lighting in the fountain with 9 jets

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  • #1 17042444
    blazej2
    Level 14  
    I am looking for a proven solution to control the solenoid valves. The solenoid valves will be used to regulate the water flowing to the fountain jets. There will be 9 jets in the fountain. Our budget is about 4000 zł. It is the budget that governs our ability to control the solenoid valves. I was thinking of timing relays. Additional at each nozzle will be RGB lighting. Does anyone have a good way of doing this?
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  • #2 17043078
    rogerrrr
    Level 13  
    Write down what you have and what you need to buy. If you have solenoid valves then give the model, coil parameters. As for RGB, I definitely prefer RGB but lamps with built-in DMX controller - more expensive lamp by about 40-50 PLN but less wiring and mega possibilities, including control of valves and possibly pump inverters.
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  • #3 17043083
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    I also think DMX has more options
    What size solenoid valves? and voltage?
  • #4 17043854
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    If I were you, I would think about a PLC.

    Regards.
  • #5 17044390
    blazej2
    Level 14  
    I don't have the solenoid valves selected yet. A 16mm PE pipe will be laid.
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  • #6 17044399
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    blazej2 wrote:
    I do not have the solenoid valves hired yet. A 16mm PE pipe will be laid.
    .

    What are the nozzles, I run 40-50mm pipe to the nozzles in the fountains?
  • #7 17044430
    pafciowaw
    Automation specialist
    PE 16 mm .... this to one point ... SPRINKLER - for automatic watering of the lawn!
  • #8 17045377
    blazej2
    Level 14  
    Foaming nozzle, thread diameter 3/4; head: 1.5m (0.6bar, 61l/min)
  • #9 17045408
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    blazej2 wrote:
    Foaming nozzle, 3/4 thread diameter; lift height:1.5m (0.6bar, 61l/min)
    .

    Pipe diameter too small
    This is only for one nozzle or feeds all ?
    What kind of circulating pump? With 9 nozzles it is already about 40m3 - a good pump for this is about 5-6 thousand PLN.
    It sounds brutal, but I can hardly see :cry: .
  • #10 17045744
    blazej2
    Level 14  
    We have now come down to another topic. On to the hydraulics department. He is looking for a controller for solenoid valves.
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  • #11 17046072
    pafciowaw
    Automation specialist
    And how do you want to control them? Some fixed time sequences, or something programmable to add different scenes?
  • #12 17046224
    technikabasenowa
    Level 33  
    We still don't know what voltage?
  • #13 17046340
    blazej2
    Level 14  
    The solenoid valves will be in a technical well, so the power supply can be 230V. Sequences for the solenoid valves depends on cost. What will be the cost with a programmable controller (proven and reliable)?
  • #14 17046903
    pafciowaw
    Automation specialist
    If it is 230 Vac and there is room, semiconductor relays may be used as an executive element (no sparking of contacts during "zero" detection; semiconductor - no changeover contacts - you may count on many years of failure-free use); the cheapest ones cost several dozen PLN each.
    Having a "power stage" in the form of 9 SSRs, it is easier to choose some kind of PLC with transistor outputs, which can be programmed for different sequences at different times (real-time clock); or to select "action sequences" through different/dedicated physical inputs.
    The PLC itself is a cost of approx. 600-800 net (Everyone will use what they like and know; I'm thinking here of FATEK 24 MA -> 10 outputs)

Topic summary

The discussion focuses on controlling solenoid valves for a fountain with 9 jets and integrating RGB lighting at each nozzle within a budget of approximately 4000 zł. The solenoid valves are intended to regulate water flow through 16mm PE pipes feeding 3/4" threaded foaming nozzles operating at 0.6 bar and 61 l/min. Key considerations include valve coil parameters, voltage (230 VAC power supply available in a technical well), and pipe sizing concerns for adequate flow. Control solutions proposed include timing relays, but more advanced and flexible options such as PLCs (Programmable Logic Controllers) with transistor outputs are recommended for programmable sequences and real-time control. Semiconductor relays (SSRs) are suggested as reliable power stages for switching 230 VAC loads without contact sparking, enhancing durability. For RGB lighting, lamps with built-in DMX controllers are preferred despite higher cost (~40-50 PLN more) due to reduced wiring complexity and expanded control capabilities, including potential integration with valve and pump inverter control. The FATEK 24 MA PLC is cited as an example of a cost-effective controller (~600-800 PLN net) with sufficient outputs for the application.
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