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How do I configure the Integra 128 Plus to control underfloor heating?

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  • #1 17490577
    kosa351
    Level 15  
    Hi,
    having an Integra 128 Plus control panel (there is a thermostat output here) + INT-TSI I would like to use floor heating control in 12 rooms. I would have to place valves on the valves in the boiler room with an actuator (230V), e.g. Danofoss 88H3112, and connect this to the INT-ORS and mount an ATD-100 in each room. By combining this on the keypad, I will be able to control the temperature in each room separately. Am I thinking correctly? Will this work properly?
    If so, can the ATD-100 wireless detectors be replaced with some wired ones? Alternatively, could I run a wire and supply 3V from a power pack directly to the detector?
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  • #2 17491021
    sq5vjj
    Level 12  
    I would consider TD-1 detectors, one with an additional detector for two rooms
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  • #3 17491493
    kosa351
    Level 15  
    The system is to control the alarm, roller-blinds via INT-ORS, entrance gates, monitoring and, possibly in the future, some watering in the garden. The investor insisted that the heating should also be integrated into "one system" and controlled from one keypad, but in each room. He doesn't want miracles or smart solutions either, just what I mentioned above.

    The idea is to avoid controllers in the rooms, which is why the control of room temperature is to be carried out on two INT-TSI keypads located on the ground floor and the ground floor. I'm just wondering how it will work in practice.

    Is it better to convince the investor and let the plumber install two central controllers on a separate system and that's it.

    In addition, to put it all together you need to add a GSM module, Acu, ETHM-1 Plus to the Integra 128 Plus. Without heating, a 128WRL would be sufficient and that's it.
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  • #4 17491760
    Chris_W

    Level 39  
    I'd put that down to a plumber for a separate system - you won't get the real functionality you need for heating on an alarm.
    In fact, here you need weather control (so general heating dependent on the outside temperature), which is probably built into the heat source (if it's some newer system) - and for individual rooms you need - not thermostats - just adjustable valves to set the flows one at a time to give each room the desired thermal comfort (e.g. warm bathroom, cooler bedroom). After a week of playing around with these settings, people stop fiddling with them (presumably achieving good settings), and after a month they won't know how to adjust it ;) .
    Generally speaking, setting the temperature for each room makes sense in my opinion in ventilation systems (or forced-air heating) - where temperature changes are instantaneous, measurement and heating involve the same medium (air), there is a lot of air mixing and temperature uniformity (at the air extractor you have the average t. of the room), in other cases "fuzzy logic" is sufficient, so whether it is hot or cold.
    Also oil is heating, because if the customer is picky he will complain.
    PS A wireless temperature sensor has the advantage that you will find him a representative place to measure.
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  • #5 17491766
    dj_volt
    Level 26  
    The only things I can see are ACU-120 and ATD-100 detectors. You set threshold values and with these you control the technical outputs of the control panel - open/close the valve.
    I'm in the process of building a system in my flat (a testing ground before implementing more serious automation with clients). After many sleepless nights (reading), I decided to set up Domoticz. Ultimately, I want to be able to regulate the temperature, which is why I have placed a DS18B20 in each room. I plan to use Danfoss thermostats controlled via Z-Wave as actuators. Inexpensive, proven, proprietary solution with a cool API. At the moment I have the lighting control done, in the spring, after the heating season, I will replace the thermostats. I think it's the only cheap sensible IoT system. If you show the investor that he has it all on his phone and any tablet from Ladybird - you don't need keypads :) .

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    sq5vjj wrote:
    I would consider TD-1 detectors , one with an additional sensor for two rooms
    .
    This is not a very good solution - you set the threshold values directly in the TD-1 detector. With the ABAX ATD-100 you edit the threshold values remotely - even by phone.
    BTW: 73! SQ3LLX :) .
  • #6 17491963
    kosa351
    Level 15  
    This is what I will do. I'll convince the investor to go with a separate system and it will be done.
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