Huawei SUN2000-10KTL inverter or Fronius Symo 10.0-3-M which one to choose?

wello wrote:

This Fronius is at the same price because it is without the datamenager. So without the possibility of viewing everything via the Internet. If Fronius is only M, but it is about PLN 1000 more.

Fronius S is an inverter with only one MPPT, i.e. for one string of panels (1 String)
Fronius M has two MPPTs, i.e. for two strings of panels (2 Strings)
The Fronius Light is an inverter without a datalogger

Let's not mislead the forum users :)

best regards

Right sorry I mistook the DM for one MPPT

Thank you.
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I am asking for help in choosing the size of the PV installation.
My annual consumption is 3900KWH, including heating water with a 2000 watt heater in the summer period, so every other third day and the remaining days I burn out the stove.
I have valuations for various installations from 5.5KWP to 6.5 KWP is the difference 1KWP, which value should I lean towards?
and as in the subject, I was offered a Huawei Sun2000 inverter and SunLink 345 / 6.5KWP panels for PLN 22,000 /

Aromur wrote:

I am asking for help in choosing the size of the PV installation.
My annual consumption is 3900KWH, including heating water with a 2000 watt heater in the summer period, so every other third day and the remaining days I burn out the stove.
I have valuations for various installations from 5.5KWP to 6.5 KWP is the difference 1KWP, which value should I lean towards?
and as in the subject, I was offered a Huawei Sun2000 inverter and SunLink 345 / 6.5KWP panels for PLN 22,000 /

1. Installation selection:
Important, are you going to only heat with a boiler in the summer or still burn out in a hot water furnace after installing the installation ???
If you still heat the water with burnout, you will need a power of 4.5-4.7kWp (I assume the installation is in the south),
if the water is heated only with a boiler in the summer, about 6.8kWp should be used

2. Installation components:
Huawei NO, go to Fronius or SMA, it is worth adding to the inverter,

I advise against Sunlink panels, when choosing, please take into account the TIER1 ranking, so that then someone will have you this 10-year warranty on the product

give in 3 years, I recommend looking at the TIER 1 Ranking https://fotowoltaikaonline.pl/producenci and base the installation on panels from this list.

best regards

What a nice colorful and sponsored ranking of these panels, and what page is different, and Polish panels among the world's best, it was not the case. And what is Fronius better than Huawei, but in points, please, or Fronius from SMA

22 thousand for 6.5 kWp add the assembly to this, probably no one will work for free and I wish the user of such installations a good night's sleep. As recently as yesterday, I saw the installation on the ground and it was definitely not a primer Well, but the CCC price works wonders.

the installer has more than one installation on his account is recommended by recipients and offices in which he also set up a PV installation and that there are no touts of intrusive advertising and he judges reasonably a mistake on his part?

Only that the offices are the cheapest and not the best, we all know what the roads from tenders look like. The price is due to something, I wish you good dreams, especially in summer storms
I used to put on LPG for my car at a recommended gas generator, now I have equipment for LPG regulation in cars better than some workshops and it ended up that I had to learn myself. This is how it is, if you save here, you spend there, the sum must be correct

noja102 wrote:

What a nice colorful and sponsored ranking of these panels, and what page is different, and Polish panels among the world's best, it was not the case. And what is Fronius better than Huawei, but in points, please, or Fronius from SMA

As if this ranking was not sponsored, you still have to throw off your emotions and rationally look at financial results and caliber

manufacturer, because if you want to get a guarantee on the panel in 10 years, you have to look at how financially this producer is, ignoring even if you want a deceived failure rate statistics.


1. And emotionally I do not support such solutions because in Europe we shit our shoes with such an approach and then we cry that we do not even produce masks in our own backyard, we do not usually support theft, and here we do? : https://www.gramwzielone.pl/energia-sloneczna...redge-znowu-skarzy-huawei-o-kradziez-patentow

Looking at Huawei interface and sudden enlightenment with hmmm optimizers

2. In the USA, they have already successfully and accurately responded to Huawei, in the context of point 1 if it is similar in Europe, then warranty service and

service will rather lose in quality.

3. The experience of our western neighbors who used PV installations based on FRONIUS SMA KACO much earlier than us clearly confirm their reliability for many years, confirmed by experience, and how much do we have to confirm the reliable operation of HUAWEI?


best regards

My next question:
Is it possible to install a 10KW inverter for the installation of 6.2 KWP with a view to further expansion with larger panels for the heat pump?

Pack the max right away

Aromur wrote:

Is it possible to install a 10KW inverter for the installation of 6.2 KWP with a view to further expansion with larger panels for the heat pump?

Everything can be a question of how it will work and whether it pays off. The availability of equipment also matters. I know from experience that such additions rarely take place.

You will not buy such a panel after that.

jedrula wrote:

The experience of our western neighbors, who used PV installations based on FRONIUS SMA KACO much earlier than us, clearly confirms their reliability for many years, confirmed by experience, and how much do we have to confirm the reliable operation of HUAWEI?

Looking at the global market, Huawei is a tycoon, and fronius is a local manufacture
Maybe I have unlucky neighbors, but their fronius overheats, buzzes and spoils them.
Looking at the dry catalog data, fronius is rather weaker than most Chinese products.
And look at the center of the front and say how many components the inscription made in china has :)

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Aromur wrote:

My annual consumption is 3900KWH

My neighbors had a little higher and decided to install a simple 3.5kwp with a single-phase inverter.
Advantage? 13 thousand gross. With the deduction of subsidies and concessions, they will be reimbursed in 3 years.
And they live without any problems knowing that the bills will be PLN 50.

The bill for 2 months is PLN 23

PLN 14.80 every 2 bells

mateos2 wrote:

Looking at the global market, Huawei is a tycoon, and fronius is a local manufacture
Maybe I have unlucky neighbors, but their fronius overheats, buzzes and spoils them.
Looking at the dry catalog data, fronius is rather weaker than most Chinese products.
And look at the center of the front and say how many components the inscription made in china has

This is a very reliable assessment of the product on the basis of your maybe unlucky neighbors, good ... essentially destroys

Huawei is such a great piece of equipment that they CANNOT fix the inverter reset problem - you go through the procedure and NOTHING. Answer from Huawa: try, it will surprise you one time.

There are no problems with Fronius - the service works and really helps - what's more, my experience shows that Fronius is one of the least broken inverters.

Anyway, Fronius welding machines are also great - read reviews on "welding" forums :)

Huawei is not bad, of the "Chinese" it is probably the only one I would not be afraid to install at home - BUT - Fronius is much better.

This is how I read this thread with interest, because I will have the installation done myself in a few weeks and I will tell you that all of you, without exception, give emotional, not factual, arguments, and the justification lies and squeals. Huawei is angry because "Chinese", and Fronius is angry, because the neighbors are basically warming up and nobody knows it in the world. Just like the drivers' argument about which car brand is better. No sense.

I will tell you what installation I will be doing:

Power 4.1 KW, Inverter Huawei SUN2000-4KTL-M0, Panels Ja Solar Jam72s10-410 / MR

I do not know where the thesis that appeared in the thread that it is impossible to extend the warranty in Huawei. I have 10 years as standard and an option to extend to 15 or 20 years. I know that they may disappear from the market tomorrow, but there are risks from other sides as well. Lukashenka may invade us, or the asteroid may fall, triggering a nuclear winter that will last 200 years, then from solar strand

Hello

Nobody mentions the built-in safeguards in Huaweia inverters that Fronius does not have.
So a few zlotys can be saved.
Someone could comment.

I confirm - only Fronius.
Huawei can synchronize with the network for up to 20 minutes - a tragedy, and finally it will surprise. Never that long in Frionius - 150 seconds max.
And with this security from Huawei, it is Chinese propaganda, as if Fronius did not.

And the failure rate of Huawei is already coming out with a greater number of installations and Polish energy networks. But they quickly replace them with new ones. We will see how they will continue to operate because the USA and Europe are already blocking Huawei.

I laughed at my friend mateos2 - wow Fronius - 'local manufacture'; and what else can be invented.

To sum up only Fronius. A great choice.

I have Fronius and Sofar and if I would choose only Sofar.

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witekem wrote:

Frioniusie never that long - 150 seconds max.

It depends on how you set it, it can start in 1 second.

Sofar is also a "Chinese" - which has a HUGE SHIT ... monitoring - what's more, just like Huawei has a lot of annoying flaws - you just DO NOT do an inverter "setup" without DC voltage. In addition, Sofar has a HARMFUL menu. Reliability similar to Huawei - out of about 1000 Froniuses installed last year, 2 have broken, out of 1000 Sofars and a similar number of Huawei's have broken 10. Make your own conclusions.
Sofar, Huawei, Zever and the rest of the "Chinese" are not bad - BUT - to Fronius, SMA or Solaredge they are still MUCH missing. Would I install them at home, yes - BUT - but if I could not afford Fronius, if I can, I choose Fronius.
And I have been installing PV for 8 years - so I deal with inverters of various brands.
Fronius just works, we have peace of mind, and we can easily integrate it with Smart House systems - it is not so easy with Sofar or Huawei.

Considering the Sofar's price, almost -40 / 50% compared to Fronius is ..................