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Is it worth investing in the old Peraverde G100 system for a smart home?

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  • #1 18240343
    tida1
    Level 9  
    I want to install a simple, cheap and wireless system, there is, for example, a system based on the Peraverde G100 control panel, the system works in the z-wave standard and is officially offered by the operator Orange, in addition with a "service" called "smart home"

    I see that the G100 control panel is already quite old ( read old) equipment, the processor is a
    CPU Broadcom BCM5354, Linux 2.4 BSP Ready, Flash 16 MB, SDRAM 32 MB

    I would like a simple system of the type:
    -6x radiator thermostatic head
    -3x smart switch
    -2x opening sensor
    -1x media controller/pilot
    -1x smoke detector
    -1x motion detector
    -1x flood detector
    -1x camera

    On the secondary market, a control unit can be purchased for less than PLN 100, but is it worth
    It may turn out that in a year or two the producer/distributor will abandon the system and cease to support it/shut down the servers? Additionally, I am bothered by the question of what the Orange service called "smart home" really is ?

    greetings tida
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  • #2 18240370
    Anonymous
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  • #3 18240552
    tida1
    Level 9  
    Erbit wrote:
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    Since you wrote about the price of 100 zł for a used control unit, maybe you should decide on Homematic ? A used CCU2 is not much more expensive and at least it will work stably, while for 250 you should bid for a CCU3 (Raspberry PI 3B on board) but if only as many elements as above, then the CCU2 is enough. If you are not demanding then maybe the AP alone + cloud is enough?
    .

    Well interesting this Homematic. Could you elaborate a bit on what difference the type of PBX makes to the "ordinary" user ? The CCU2 is probably an old PBX ( withdrawn already ?) and one I would not like purely subjectively.
    But this AP type PBX interesting and cheap.... what does it mean realistically for a user like me who will not be demanding ?

    The limitation compared to the new CCU3 is in what actually ? In the number of actors, the smoothness of operation, the reliability, or in something else ? Because the smartphone app itself is the same for all homematic exchanges ?

    As for Orange's offer, I don't really know whether it works well or not, just because Orange offers it doesn't mean it doesn't work, but I'm not familiar with smart systems and have no experience with them. There is, however, a new Peraverde G100 kit available to buy for £250, which is extensive as it includes: G100 control unit, Motion detector, Smoke detector, Flood detector, PTZ camera, socket switch without an energy meter. Is it possible to buy this for a start, taking into account the price/capacity criterion? You could say that I am tempted by this set, but I do not want to "sink" :) .
  • #4 18240569
    Anonymous
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  • #5 18242509
    tida1
    Level 9  
    Erbit wrote:
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    An AP (access point) is merely a device that enables you to configure your devices and allows you to connect to an external cloud (only the cloud).

    This means that with the AP you will be able, for example, to configure a schedule for the head (you will be able to configure each device), you will be able, for example, to "group" the head with a window sensor (thanks to this, the head will know which window sensor it should react to) but you will NOT be able to write (click) any scene because the AP does not have this possibility.
    .

    I don't understand why the AP "allows you to connect to an external cloud (only the cloud)."
    After all, the command data flows to the cloud, and from there it still goes to the wireless device e.g. the head end. I downloaded the manual from conrad, it stands there so for the AP:

    ... "The access point connects the smartphone via the Homematic IP cloud to all Homematic IP devices and sends configuration data and application control commands to all Homematic IP devices."

    and further, under "supercharged" - which should rather read "turbo"

    "-In the app, touch the room and then the recharge symbol or press the control knob of the Homematic IP heater or wall thermostat to activate the recharge function."

    So according to this, the AP connects ( via a different route, but still) to the device?

    I understand that the CCU 3 establishes connections directly, by radio, without internet or cloud, with the executive device e.g. the therm. head, but why can't the AP do the same not directly, but indirectly, using the cloud ?
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  • #6 18242530
    Anonymous
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  • #7 18244309
    tida1
    Level 9  
    Ok, and what is the Homematic interface like in terms of clarity and user friendliness ? If you perhaps have a comparison with some other system, please write a few words about it.

    Is a new user without experience in the area of smart-home capable of setting up a system like the one presented in the first post without the help of experts/services?

    Is it possible to have a mix of homematic IP devices and "normal" homematic devices in such a system (under the CCU3 control unit, which I am considering)?
  • #8 18245304
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the viability of investing in the older Peraverde G100 smart home system, which operates on the Z-Wave standard and is offered by Orange. The user expresses concerns about the system's age, potential lack of future support, and the reliability of the "smart home" service provided by Orange. Responses suggest skepticism towards Orange's offerings, recommending alternatives like Homematic systems, specifically the CCU2 and CCU3 models, which are perceived as more stable and reliable. The differences between access points (AP) and control units (CCU) are clarified, emphasizing that APs require cloud connectivity for smartphone access, while CCUs allow local connections. The user is also interested in the user-friendliness of the Homematic interface and the feasibility of setting up a smart home system without expert assistance.
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