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Comparison of smart home systems with displays - Grenton and alternatives

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  • #1 19668953
    arkosw
    Level 12  
    Hi. I did a bit of searching, but knowing life I didn't even find half of it....

    I am planning to build a house, I would like it to be a smart home.
    I've searched a bit on the internet and the best I've found ( in terms of features, design etc ) is the Grenton system

    Probably the biggest advantage of this system is their smart panels, I haven't seen a similar solution in other systems. And I would like my system to have such or similar displays

    Price acceptable in my opinion

    It is also very nice if the whole interface is in Polish.

    Please let me know if there are other similar systems?
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  • #2 19669256
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    I am not actually familiar with the system, but I would like to warn all lovers of novelties
    against adopting network solutions uncritically.
    If any part of your system requires logging or any other intermediary of an external network remember,
    that there is no free soup. Any such system can be remotely made non-functional at any time, or - even worse - anyone can
    acquire functionalities you do not want at all.
    The only good and secure solutions are those whose operating mechanisms you have full control over.

    I apologise to those annoyed by me ranting like this, but think about it.
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  • #3 19669274
    varaktor
    Level 18  
    It only makes sense to buy if the system in question can function fully without internet access.
    There are many known cases where devices have become completely non-functional when the manufacturer stopped being interested in supporting the product or simply went bankrupt. You spend a couple of thousand on a whole house and in a year's time the company says they will no longer maintain the servers.
  • #4 19669288
    starob
    Level 29  
    @Rysiek2 In addition, the purchase of any hardware is determined by the condition of being able to integrate with a particular system.
    This will not always be the cheapest or technically satisfactory.
    Such "toys" are suitable for retrofitting existing facilities. With a new-build it is pointless. The cost of the system in relation to the total is not large and it can be done well.
    I have assembled a similar toy myself, but if I had the opportunity to build again I would do it differently - on wires and PLCs.
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  • #5 19670599
    arkosw
    Level 12  
    Thank you for your advice, I have taken this into account so that the communication of the system is wired and works without internet involvement.

    I found this out myself, because in the house in which I currently live I have aqara home system (added because the house is already old) And everything works fine, until the moment when the power goes out or there is no connection to the Internet, by the time everything is connected, it takes ages and sometimes I have already had situations where it is the middle of the night and I can not turn on the light.... Failure
    Sometimes it updates and something will go wrong. There have been times when I have sat for 3 hours to get it working again

    Thanks for the information, maybe it will help someone :) .

    And I am still waiting for suggestions from other companies
  • #6 19751575
    xbajt
    Level 17  
    The question is what should the scope of operation be? I have control of the alarm, cameras, roller-blinds, lights in each room and the garage door from my phone. It's done on Satel, I'm satisfied and you could say it was quite a budget solution .
    Also recommended is KNX automation, like on this page . You don't have to install everything straight away, although it offers great possibilities for the future.
  • #7 19752363
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    Grenton is a cable-based system with dedicated CLUs - it can operate without internet (in which case there will be no external control). You have all the 'logic' in the switchgear, so no worries about foreign servers. You can also use wireless solutions - they have z-wave devices, so eventual expansion without cabling will be possible.
    From similar ones you have for example Ampio, Loxone and the famous KNX.
    P.S. Grenton's panels with OLED display might appeal.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #8 20283781
    xbajt
    Level 17  
    In my opinion, one of Ampio's biggest flaws is their policy of rationing real system knowledge to installers only. I understand the business model, but it's a strategy a bit of a bygone era. I used to be interested, but quickly ruled Ampio out of consideration precisely because of the lack of available documentation and the fear that I would be completely, or at least heavily, dependent on the installer. And that is something I would never wish for.
    https://skandikhome.pl/co-to-jest-automatyka-do-bram-i-dlaczego-warto-ja-stosowac/
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  • #9 20283880
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    For this reason, it is more a system for people who do not intend to modify it themselves - a different category of customer :) . Greenton is probably best in this respect.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.

Topic summary

The discussion centers around the Grenton smart home system, particularly its unique smart panels and the desire for a system that operates without reliance on the internet. Users express concerns about the potential risks of network-dependent systems, emphasizing the importance of having full control over the system's functionality. Alternatives such as Ampio, Loxone, and KNX are mentioned, with Grenton being highlighted for its cable-based operation and compatibility with Z-Wave devices for wireless expansion. Users also note the importance of having accessible documentation and the ability to modify the system independently from installers.
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