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  • #931 21248667
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    But why an exchange (if I understand correctly: a fair held at a fixed location) when the exchange is OLX itself? :) To find the item you are interested in and the bidders selling it you just have to check on the website, you don't have to go anywhere. A different matter is the collection - here it is possible to make an appointment, either with a visit to a shop (if someone besides OLX sells such items), or at work, or near your home, or somewhere halfway down the road :) I have already more than once taken items sold to work with me to save the travel involved, and other times I have dropped something off on the way because it was more convenient for everyone.

    The only problem is with so-called small items where I won't put up bids for a "stupid resistor", but even this can be circumvented by offering grouped bids.
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  • #932 21248682
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    hindoos wrote:
    But why an exchange (if I understand correctly: a fair held at a fixed location) when the exchange is OLX itself? :) In order to find the item you are interested in and the bidders selling it, it is enough to check on the website, there is no need to go anywhere. A different matter is the collection - here it is possible to make an appointment, either with a visit to a shop (if someone besides OLX sells such items), or at work, or near your home, or somewhere halfway down the road :) I have already more than once taken items sold to work with me to save the travel involved, and other times I have dropped something off on the way because it was more convenient for everyone.

    The only problem is with the so-called small items where I won't put up bids for the "stupid resistor", but even that can be circumvented by offering grouped bids.


    Overall, yes. But you can group your own. In the style that I bought item X from someone, but still have a lot of cool items that I would like to see in person as long as no one buys them online. With second-hand items, it's safer to buy by seeing the item and not just a picture of it. In any case, you can think of something better than OLX.
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  • #933 21249585
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    I for one think that the commissions are too high for 'local'.
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  • #934 21249628
    E8600
    Level 41  
    What has come to Allegro from 1 October, the need to catalogue products, will be the nail in the coffin of this platform. Aliexpres knew what would happen and wants to take over the cake because there is something to share. Something new should grow up, Inpost could get involved.

    As long as they don't block it, you can browse allegro the old way, sticking the phrase at the end of the address: &description=1 .
    You can read more here: https://spolecznosc.allegro.pl/t5/dyskusje-ku...82%C4%85cz-te-same-oferty/td-p/767339/page/77
  • #935 21258045
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    How many people have already predicted the demise of Allegro. Every change is a joke. Allegro has accumulated so many nails in its coffin that it's like a foo-foo. And somehow, instead of collapsing, it is expanding into neighbouring countries.
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  • #936 21258747
    Mastertech
    Level 27  
    Because nothing has changed in the mentality of sellers or buyers.
    There is a fashion among sellers to list according to "how much it sells for" and the buyer wants to buy for what it is worth to him, because it is, after all, used goods in varying degrees of wear and tear and the price is "like others".
    As a result, the buyer gives up and the seller has to buy another package for re-listing.
    Until the selling cost exceeds the value, then such an item goes to the dump.
    And that the commissions on ALokalnie and Olx are getting higher and higher is one thing, the other is the quantity limitation,
    You will not be able to list more than 1 item without buying a package, and the price of these items is crazy.
  • #937 21429566
    E8600
    Level 41  
    As I haven't sold anything for a few years I'll ask if it's better to list on regular alledrogo or on this one locally? Selling from a private individual indefinitely until it sells.
  • #938 21429629
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    AL overall gets away with it. There is certainly not as much traffic there as on the regular Allegro. But at least no one will complain about the fact that you sell branded items, and malicious buyers will not give you a negative :D .
    Yes I know a lot of sarcasm but that's the truth. What else is left... OLX?...
  • #939 21429664
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    Allegro is already a shop, it's a shame to put something single, used there that won't be in the catalogue.
  • #940 21430060
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    E8600 wrote:
    is it better to list on regular alledrogo or on this one locally? Selling from a private person
    .
    And it is possible to list as a private person on regular allegro? Probably not... Anyway I recommend olx, cheaper postage and it happens that someone locally will buy
  • #941 21430062
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    As far as I know, offers of items from most brands cannot be listed on the regular Allegro by private individuals.
  • #942 21430104
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    Then perhaps you also know what legal basis Allegro has invoked in forbidding sales from such a huge list of "protected brands"?
    Everything that pisses off the little ones is done by the big ones for the "good" of the little ones.... Allegro, for the sake of me, the Smith, prohibits Nowak from selling an item because it protects the brand. Gee, how does it protect!....
    The argument that it thus prevents the sale of fakes doesn't get through to me. How many of these fakes will Nowak sell and how many can be sold by a bush company that goes out of business after a year without consequences?
  • #943 21430196
    phanick
    Level 28  
    It's not about protecting any brands, it's about driving private sellers out of allegro and leaving only companies there to improve the quality of the service.

    Seller-company at allegro= possibility of return, complaints, hire purchase, issuing invoices, fast shipment time, equal quality of goods (=new).
    In the case of complaints, companies usually do not care, because they have such a turnover that even replacing the goods with new ones and throwing the old ones in the rubbish makes no difference.

    A private seller generally causes problems for potential buyers.
    - return depends only on goodwill
    - usually the goods are not new
    Probably the number of discussions with such sellers is an order of magnitude higher than with a statistical company, hence the allegro management decided to separate these two groups of sellers.


    However, as far as allegro itself is concerned, I have an impression that there is at least one person among those responsible for the development of this service, who at every step tries to "screw" sellers by introducing more and more stupid and strange changes, e.g. the need for a white RGB background.
    - the necessity of a white background RGB=255,255,255 on photos
    - soon to be announced removal of the unit fee from the sold item (and thus increase the commission, because it cannot be cheaper)
  • #944 21430239
    E8600
    Level 41  
    hindoos wrote:
    As a private person it is possible to list on regular allegro?
    .
    Until 2 or 3 years ago, when I was selling recently, it was possible to list on regular allegro even though it redirected to local.
  • #945 21430567
    cysiekw
    Level 42  
    phanick wrote:
    This isn't about protecting any brands, it's about driving private sellers out of allegro and leaving only companies there to raise the quality of the service.
    Very high quality no what. https://wykop.pl/wpis/77806493/minely-prawie-3-tygodnie-od-zakupu-podrobionej-suw
    The changes that have taken place in the last 2 years in this portal are one big mistake. A total bollocking for me was the removal of the search in the descriptions. Filipiak and his portal were supposed to take back the monopoly, but in the meantime he is dead. No one can beat them, amazon, ebay, boards.pl all lost to Hegemon.
  • #946 21430591
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    Well, because they built the brand over the years, people got used to it and you have it just like we wanted. I prefer to buy at allegro because I have a smartphone, a choice of 10 forms of delivery, etc.
    On Amazon you also have a premium service, but you have to go to a DHL shop or wait for a courier?
    no, definitely not.
    There is no need to cry that a foreign company cannot beat a foreign one, it is just a pity that a Polish company got rid of this business.

    OLX is trying to bite the cake a little, but it still has poor PR, with scams, although now it is much better.
  • #947 21430602
    Lukas6432
    Level 32  
    cysiekw wrote:
    No one can beat them, amazon, ebaje, boards.co.uk all lost to the Hegemon.
    No offence but Amazon is a very viable competitor to Allegro, and with Prime active it is very viable. If only they would improve search.
    Allegro's advantage is the multitude of goods, for example, when I am looking for an antenna for my TV, a power supply, an amplifier Amazon has a few dozen items, Allegro a few thousand.

    Added after 2 [minutes]: .

    >>21430591 .
    After all, you can order for an Inpost parcel machine, unless the goods are too big and won't fit.
  • #948 21430625
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    Lukas6432 wrote:
    .

    >>21430591 .
    After all, you can order for an Inpost parcel machine, unless the goods are too big and won't fit.


    Not everything has inpost delivery :) and often only inpost courier. I don't know why, I usually order small things.
    Unless they changed it in the last msc, before Christmas I didn't have that option.

    Well what you mentioned yourself the quantity of the assortment is also weaker, although sometimes I buy from de and maybe that is why there is no inpost ?
  • #949 21430683
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    First of all, the search engine totally lies in Amazon. In Allegro I am able to add more conditions in the filters until what I need is left. On Amazon, no chance because, like Aliexpress, it adds random things to the results.
  • #950 21430709
    Lukas6432
    Level 32  
    >>21430683 .
    Now they have improved the search anyway, at least in the Android app. You can set free price ranges and previously there was only a fork.
    But the fact is that the Allegro search knocks out that of Amazon.
    Prices and, above all, bargains are a different story.
    For example, cast iron pots or pans, the prices from Amazon versus Allegro are ~30% difference.
    On several occasions I have bought goods which cost, for example, €8 in Germany and PLN 8 in Poland.
  • #951 21430726
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    This is true, but it is standard practice to compare the price of the selected product in other online shops (via any price comparison engine, including Google) and with Amazon. Usually, however, Allegro is the best (mainly due to free shipping). Recently, when putting together a computer, half of the components came to me from Amazon but half of the price was better on Allegro. Generally, for cheap items (that don't qualify for smart) I still check olx. Sometimes the price is the same but the shipping is much cheaper, even if you add the service charge.
  • #952 21430740
    cysiekw
    Level 42  
    Lukas6432 wrote:
    Many times I have bought goods that cost for example 8€ in Germany and 8 but PLN in Poland.
    .
    It is me who has the complete opposite, Amazon pl 800-900 pln Amazon.de with shipping to pl after conversion from euro 600 pln!
  • #953 21430756
    Lukas6432
    Level 32  
    >>21430740 Agree and Prime Day is much better in Germany.
    I mean small things and here you get really very good prices at Amazon.co.uk
  • #954 21430851
    E8600
    Level 41  
    hindoos wrote:
    Allegro is usually the most favourable (mainly due to free shipping).
    .
    I came across information somewhere that sellers who have an agreement with the service, i.e. more favourable conditions (lower commissions) are obliged to exhibit at alledrogo cheaper than on their own websites (online shops). Several people in the discussion where I found this information confirmed this.
    Fortunately, not everyone has a contract and I myself after the recent changes bought a few items outside alledrogo even with more expensive shipping came out cheaper. I would especially recommend checking when buying multi items.

    The service probably sees that less are buying because lately I very often get various discounts/vouchers and notifications.
  • #955 21430942
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    With small items (but ones that will catch free shipping) the amount saved by finding a cheaper option in an online shop is a cost in time. The other issue is looking for multiple items from one retailer. This is hard to do based on searching online shops. Amazon doesn't have either or I don't know how to search. In general I get the impression that Ali and Amazon are geared towards selling one item. Meanwhile, Allegro strongly promotes taking more from one seller (counting how much is missing for free delivery, offering other seller's items when adding to the basket, etc). And it's often possible to throw in something we would have bought in a month anyway, which will allow us to get into free delivery.
  • #956 21431245
    Lukas6432
    Level 32  
    >>21430942 But Amazon has free delivery from a penny or, I've bought loads of trinkets with free delivery.
    On Allegro from 45pln at one seller is a colossal difference.
    It used to be that you could buy small things on Aliexpres, but the package took 2 months and a lot of it was lost.
    Since it goes through the post office or inpost and not a private sorting office, a parcel takes a maximum of 10 days to arrive and I have never lost one.
    But now the prices are different than 6 years ago, plus VAT and often either the purchase is over 40pln or shipping is paid, symbolic but paid.
  • #957 21431356
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    As I read some of the recent posts I have the impression that their content was written by the HR department of the Allegro group, raptures and paeans about the comfort, speed and security of shopping on this platform ;-) ...

    Especially since they have introduced the grouping of similar items within one search. Well then you have to click through or open a mass of windows.
    Let me remind you that it is not Allegro employees who pack and ship the parcels, but the seller, so attributing the shipping speed to the selling platform is pointless.
    I would also like to remind you that there are a lot of cases when a purchased, 100% working item, when it ends up in the hands of a bidder and is damaged, Allegro forces to accept the return and give back the money, because this is their way of thinking and their ability to exert pressure. As if they were a party to the transaction.

    And also about the ease of searching and filters - yesterday I was looking for a bid on Allegro with a simple m.cz. generator, it's an ordeal despite narrowing the search to the "Generators" category.
  • #958 21431374
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    Well see I read your statement and I know that Allegro is the best choice for the buyer :) For you the customer is the problem and not the potential profit.

    The fact that the customer is a "loser" as you wrote, I can tell you that more than once I bought something as a loser, because I do not know about cars and other things and one seller helped, and for others it is a problem and a loser. Yes I buy via Allegro about 90% of my purchases I do online including household chemicals and groceries.

    And if someone damages something when opening it, it means that it was poorly packaged.

    Of course, I am not writing that customers are saints, because they are not, either, and they can make "free" purchases or other miracles in which they send back an incomplete set (e.g. a classic of Lego, where boxes without the contents of the most expensive unique bricks are returned).

    And it is true that Allegro brings up Polish businessmen; if they didn't have to, they wouldn't do it, apparently there was too much crankiness already.

    Recently, for example, sellers have been adding candy, which is very nice, so those more aware of the situation can find their way around the new Allegro.
  • #959 21431433
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    Well you see I read your statement and I know that Allegro is a platform, a square, a marketplace, i.e. a place where one lists an item and the other buys it. These two parties enter into a contract of sale, not a "square" with a bash....

    Well, the fact, the added candy is a really important thing.
  • #960 21431439
    Lukas6432
    Level 32  
    >>21431356 I bought on the Allegro electronic scale price under 60 zł with a stainless steel bowl, I have smart shipping free.
    But the gentleman seller packed the package with a height of more than 100 millimeters in gabarit A of the parcel machine InPost and there the height of a maximum of 80 millimeters.
    Of course, the weight box was massively damaged and I had to struggle to get it out of the parcel machine.
    The parcel was immediately returned unopened.
    At the time, the difference between the price for size A and B was 2 zloty gross for the retailer.
    That's how much he saved with the agreement with inpost, 90 cents at the most.
    There are also such retailers.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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