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Maximizing Wired Control in Home Automation: Relays, Circuits, and Wiring Tips

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  • #1 19079482
    Wix
    Level 8  
    I have scoured the internet and have a general idea of home automation, however, I have a dilemma and am counting on your experiences…
    The installation will be „hitchless”, I do not envisage „star”.

    However, I already envisage some elements of automation and remote control: with two or three time-based light switching circuits (e.g. on-call sconces in the living room, on-call under-cabinet lights in the kitchen, decorative garden lighting, etc.).

    From my interest in the subject and the solutions I have followed (in theory), it appears that these needs can be covered by hard-wired, additional relays (Exta, FF, etc.).
    Since it is ringing in my head that „a cable is a cable after all” then something tempts me to envisage some additional wiring to eliminate the radio path.

    I probably won&#8217t foresee everything now, and later as the needs grow I will have to radio remote something. But as I wrote, there are already some remote control/automation activities that beg for a wire.

    Have I made my dilemma clear? Could I count on you to share your experiences? At least to direct the search…
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  • #2 19079502
    adwlodar
    Level 28  
    Wix wrote:
    Did I express the dilemma clearly?
    .
    But where is the question? Are you asking if it's worth laying wires to potential control sites? Clearly. Which ones? It's hard to say. Pull those circuits what you want to control directly from the switchboard. Pull 4x1.5 or 5x1.5 to the lighting switches.

    Huge scope of the question and no specification of what you mean.

    Added after 2 [minutes]: .

    Wix wrote:
    Installation I will have „unplugged”, I do not envisage „star”.
    .
    Not every functionality can be achieved through after-bus modules.
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  • #3 19079552
    adamjur1
    Level 41  
    1. each lamp to a 4x1.5 distribution board
    2. each circuit breaker to the distribution board 4x1.5
    3.Circuit breakers within floor 'round with knx 4x0.8 cable and to distribution board.
    4.Each roller shutter, 4x1 cable through a deep box ( if there is to be an individual switch at the window) and then to the distribution board, in addition to the power supply to this box ( can already be omnidirectional)
    5 Sockets (their circuits as there are several of them together) to the distribution board if you want bioswitch style management.
    I am not writing here about low current - rtv, lan, monitoring, alarm
    If I have forgotten something then please fill me in.
    Best regards. J.
  • #4 19080161
    Wix
    Level 8  
    adwlodar wrote:
    .
    But where is the question? [...] Huge scope of question and lack of any elaboration on what it is about.


    This is a bit of a request to guide the visually impaired:) Therefore, all the more thanks for the response.


    adwlodar wrote:
    Those circuits what you want to control pull directly from the switchboard. Pull 4x1.5 or 5x1.5 to the light switches.
    .

    That's what I was tentatively thinking about too. What gives me this number of conductors for the switches?

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    adamjur1 wrote:
    1. Each lamp to a 4x1.5 distribution panel
    2. each circuit breaker for 4x1.5 switchgear
    .

    But it does seem to be getting a star. A star for all points a bit overkill in my case.

    adamjur1 wrote:
    4. Each roller shutter, 4x1 wire through a deep box ( if there is to be an individual switch at the window) and then to the switchboard, in addition to the power supply to this box ( can already be omnidirectional)
    .

    Roller shutters just three but here someone has already advised me and at this stage and for the sake of versatility they will indeed be drawn to the switchboard. For the roller shutters, I have the idea rather embraced. Thanks to


    adamjur1 wrote:
    3.Circuit breakers within the floor 'round with knx 4x0.8 cable and into the switchgear.
    .

    Oh interesting. And there in the switchgear what next? Some example of a fixture like I want to give a function to some button to start with?
    Is it analogous to run such a cable around the consumer points (+some executive equipment at a specific point)?



    adamjur1 wrote:
    5 Sockets( their circuits as there are a bunch of them together) to the distribution board as you want to manage in bioswitch style.
    .

    Are you talking about "bioenergy circuit breakers (electronic mains disconnectors)"? No, I haven't even considered such wonders:) .
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