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FAAC 414 how to make the entrance light during opening and closing?

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  • #1 19199235
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    Hello.
    Fellows I have a FAAC 414 operator and would like to fit LED lights /lamps on the posts so that they light up when opening and light up when closing.
    Where to connect? Which PINs? 7 i 8?
    Kind regards and thank you for your reply
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    #2 19199264
    alosza65
    Level 19  
    Twilight sensor relay and timer required
  • #3 19199285
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    alosza65 wrote:
    Dusk sensor relay and timer needed


    And what kind of relay for example? Where and how to connect it? :)
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    #6 19199513
    faber
    Level 24  
    Yes, 7.8 FAAC 414 how to make the entrance light during opening and closing? .
  • #7 19199540
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    faber wrote:
    Yes, 7.8 FAAC 414 how to make the entrance light during opening and closing?
    .


    So no relay is needed? Possibly just a twilight sensor so they don't light up during the day?
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    #8 19199556
    faber
    Level 24  
    Songoku8 wrote:
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    So no relay is needed? Possibly just a twilight sensor so they don't light up during the day?


    This is supposed to be a flashing warning light ?
  • #9 19199584
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    faber wrote:
    Songoku8 wrote:
    .
    So no relay is needed? Possibly just a twilight sensor so they don't light up during the day?


    This is supposed to be a flashing warning light ?



    Exactly no, I would like a light constantly when opening and closing the gate
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    #10 19199653
    faber
    Level 24  
    Songoku8 wrote:
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    Exactly no, I would like the light constantly when the gate is opened and closed


    The interrupter is in the lamp anyway so it will be continuous if the lamp is without, I was more concerned with the application, is it to be a warning or entrance light. As illumination maybe actually a regular lamp with a motion sensor.
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    #11 19199657
    zybex
    Helpful for users  
    Outputs 7 and 8 are where you need the voltage. We usually connect a flashing (warning) lamp there, but this is not a requirement.
    Songoku8 wrote:
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    I would like the light on continuously when opening and closing the door
    .
    So you no longer need a motion detector. Optionally, you can only add a twilight sensor.
  • #12 19199673
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    faber wrote:
    Songoku8 wrote:
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    Exactly no, I would like the light constantly when opening and closing the gate


    The interrupter is in the lamp anyway so it will be continuous if the lamp is without, I was more concerned with the application, is it to be a warning or entrance light. As illumination then maybe actually a normal lamp with a motion sensor.


    Yes it is only supposed to be an entrance light, the warning lamp is quite on the side. So use under pins 7 and 8 motion sensor lamps? But is the motion sensor needed there if the lights only come on when the door starts to open or close? I was thinking more of using a twilight sensor so that the lights do not come on during the day. What do you think?

    Added after 1 [minute]: .

    zybex wrote:
    On outputs 7 and 8 is precisely the voltage you need. Most often a flashing (warning) lamp is connected there, but this is not a requirement.
    Songoku8 wrote:
    I would like the light to be on continuously when opening and closing.
    I would like the light to be on continuously when opening and closing the door
    .
    So you no longer need a motion detector. Optionally, you can only add a twilight sensor.



    Acha meaning I connect under 7 and 8. Thank you for your reply 🙂
  • #13 19199723
    zybex
    Helpful for users  
    Just to be sure, plug in a wired bulb of some kind to see how it actually glows.
  • #14 19200327
    alosza65
    Level 19  
    And I think the timer is needed, i.e. the lighting time
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  • #15 19201554
    sk1977

    IT specialist  
    Pay attention to the max load of this output - 60W. If using a higher wattage light source then use a relay, contactor, etc.
    Connect a light bulb for a test run and see if this is satisfactory. You can add e.g. extension of the operation or a light sensor (it can e.g. shine longer to get to the door, or e.g. not switch on when it is light).
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  • #16 19201565
    alosza65
    Level 19  
    And so it should be a relay as a control element, the timer determines the time of light, the twilight when it should shine + additionally 1 channel per remote control + the receiver shines all the time when we want it to.
  • #17 19201587
    sk1977

    IT specialist  
    alosza65 wrote:
    It is supposed to be like this: the relay as a timer control element determines the dusk-to-dawn time when it is supposed to light up + additionally 1 channel per remote control + the receiver lights up all the time when you want it to
    - it already depends on the requirements and preferences of the Author and what he already has and intends to install. The closing time of the gate is not usually short and is often sufficient. A light sensor does not always make sense either....
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  • #18 19201610
    zybex
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    sk1977 wrote:
    It is possible to add e.g. extension of operation or a light sensor (can e.g. shine longer to reach the door, or e.g. not switch on when it is light).
    .
    If the author of the topic wanted something like this he would have simply asked. For the time being, let's stick to the topic, i.e. "How do I make the entrance light when opening and closing?".
    alosza65 wrote:
    It is supposed to be like this: a relay as the control element timer determines when the twilight should light up + additionally 1 channel per pillion + the receiver lights up all the time when you want
    .
    All this is so far making "confusion" in the head of the author of the question.

    Regarding that 60W output, with led lamps, just give two 10W each and it will be bright enough. Besides, the lamps of the car also shine.
  • #19 19201625
    sk1977

    IT specialist  
    Customers often do not ask for many things they would like :) .
    As far as the lighting during opening and closing is concerned, I think the subject is exhausted, unless the Author wants to ask about the details of implementation.
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  • #20 19247265
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    Gentlemen, however, it would be useful to have these lights on for about 5 minutes after opening as well as closing, you were right. Please advise me what timer relay to use and how to wire it? I've never done this and don't want to get confused 😄
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    #21 19247624
    zybex
    Helpful for users  
    You could try a staircase automatic. It has an adjustable time from perhaps half a minute to a maximum of 15 or even 20 minutes.
  • #22 19248907
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    zybex wrote:
    You could try with a staircase automatic. It has an adjustable time from perhaps half a minute to a maximum of 15 or even 20 minutes.



    And how and where do I connect it because I am a layman on the subject? :) do you perhaps have a link to such a machine?
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    #23 19248982
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    Hello .
    I did the lighting on the PCU510.
    In your case, you should check if the output to the lamp from the control panel is constant (the lamp has an interrupter in it) , or if it is flashing.
    If it is flashing, you should add a small relay with a 230V coil (for example R2M).
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    #24 19249132
    zybex
    Helpful for users  
    A staircase automatic is much cheaper and simpler to build than the aforementioned relay. It seems to me that such a relay would be the most suitable. Timing is not very accurate, but it is not so important here.
    Of course, it is possible to use a rail-mounted or panel-mounted one.
  • #25 19257468
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    nikusert wrote:
    Hello .
    I did the lighting on the PCU510.
    In your case, you should check whether the output to the lamp from the control panel is constant (the lamp has an interrupter in it) , or whether it is flashing.
    If it is flashing , a small relay with a 230V coil is added (for example R2M).
    .


    And where do you connect this?
    The same under 7 and 8? Do you have any wiring diagram? Or pictures? :)
  • #26 19257524
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    Check if the output to the lamp is constant or blinking. Will you have the lamps on 230V (probably yes) .If you can give me your phone number, I will make a drawing, take a picture and send it.
    One more question , from what place will the lamps be powered from the house , or from the gate automat?.
  • #27 19257536
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    nikusert wrote:
    Check if the output to the lamp is constant or flashing.Will you have the lamps on 230V (probably yes) .If you can give me your phone number,I will make a drawing,take a picture of it and send it.
    One more question , from where will the lamps be powered from the house , or from the automatic gate?.
    .

    I am connected to the faac 414 automatic under input 7 and 8 where the signal lamp is. Now they only light up when the gate opens or closes. The lamps I have. On 230 v
    My telephone number is 609 406 568
  • #28 19257543
    nikusert
    Level 41  
    So lamps connected to an automatic?
  • #29 19257552
    Songoku8
    Level 3  
    nikusert wrote:
    That is, the lamps connected to the automat?.



    Exactly so
  • #30 21277864
    bob911
    Level 1  
    Why do I still have voltage on pins 7,8
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around integrating LED lights with a FAAC 414 gate operator to illuminate during the opening and closing process. Users inquire about the appropriate connections, specifically referencing pins 7 and 8 for voltage output. Suggestions include using a twilight sensor to prevent daytime activation and a timer relay to keep the lights on for a specified duration after the gate operation. Various responses clarify that a relay may not be necessary if the lights are directly connected to the operator, and emphasize the importance of checking the output load to avoid exceeding the 60W limit. The conversation also touches on the use of motion sensors and the practicality of different lighting solutions.
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