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Is there a system on the market to control these things from your phone?

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  • #1 19496435
    --Kamil--
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    Hello
    I would like to control certain things in my newly built house with my phone.
    From what I've read what I actually want to have doesn't fit into the smarthome password.
    I would like me to be able to, from my phone:
    1. control external blinds
    2. control electric underfloor heating
    3. control mechanical ventilation
    4) Control the hot water heater
    5. possibly control lighting
    6. view surveillance cameras
    7) Open the entrance gate and wicket
    8) Possibly control a couple of sockets
    Do you know of any systems which will not ruin a person financially and which can be used in one phone application?
    Thank you in advance for your advice and suggestions.
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    Interesant
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    I have not heard a serious Smart Home system that supports CCTV.
    For that, all others will support the rest of the requirements ....
  • #3 19496470
    --Kamil--
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    So if we exclude monitoring, would you recommend any?
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    steve2
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    I will suggest to a colleague the Polish Supla. Zamel's product, and what is not on offer you can try to do yourself.
    You have the choice of Ich cloud or you put a server at home on RP .
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    --Kamil--
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    My skills are more electrical. Maybe a little electronic. In programming I know as much as I did from school which means nothing. But what the colleague below suggested. That is to say, the supla is something along these lines. I don't expect everything to be laid out here. I simply wanted to find out whether it is possible to cover everything (what I have mentioned) from one application using control modules. Because I would not like to choose a certain system and in the course of time it may turn out, when I expand step by step, that suddenly I cannot control the heating or other things.
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    Supla does not yet have a thermostat in the current software version - it will be in the future. At the moment, you can handle it on e.g.: ESP8266 and scripts. I recommend a visit to the Supla forum. There are many interesting ideas.
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    As far as the boiler is concerned, it can be on or off. But as far as the air handling unit is concerned, it has a couple of gears and it would be nice if you could select the gear you want or specify that there is such and such a gear from this hour to that hour.
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    Boiler without problem on light switch and schedule. The control panel can be embraced on the module 4 relays and ter schedule. Of course, independently on-off from the app.
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    Electric heating. Cables or mats
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    --Kamil--
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    One more thing. Do you know how the heating cables work? Does the thermostat regulate the current or does it simply switch on and off depending on the sensor reading?
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    Consider also Satel - in the application they have also a preview from cameras and you can immediately assign macros to a given preview, e.g. to open the gate or water the garden. In addition, you will have the possibility to control the alarm - and in total everything you connect.
    The main advantage will also be a remote control - one to control everything (gates, light, gate - as you configure it, so you will have it).

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.satel.android.mobilekpd2&gl=PL
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    --Kamil--
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    I have come across such a system as Ampio. Only on the forums it says that only a certified installer has access to the configurator. Is this true? Will I, as a private person, get such a configurator even if there was to be a charge?
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✨ A user seeks a comprehensive smart home system to control various functions in their newly built house via a single mobile application. Desired controls include external blinds, electric underfloor heating, mechanical ventilation, hot water heater, lighting, surveillance cameras, entrance gate, and sockets. Responses suggest considering budget constraints and technical skills, with recommendations for systems like Supla, HomeMatic, and Satel. Supla is noted for its flexibility, though it currently lacks a thermostat feature. HomeMatic offers local operation without cloud dependency, while Satel integrates camera monitoring and automation features. The discussion also touches on the control of electric heating and the need for specific functionalities in the air handling unit.
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TL;DR: Two clear paths (DIY vs. installer) and "Monitoring need not be excluded." Unify blinds, heating, ventilation, DHW, lights, gates, and outlets in one app, and keep CCTV in a second app. Decide budget and skills, then pick a local‑first platform. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19496601]

Why it matters: Picking the right architecture early avoids lock‑in and keeps future expansions smooth for phone-based home control.

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What’s the best way to control blinds, heating, ventilation, DHW, lights, cameras, and gates from one phone app?

Most robust platforms don’t embed CCTV. Use one app for automation and a second for cameras. The rest of your list fits a single platform well. An installer notes, “I have not heard a serious Smart Home system that supports CCTV.” Scenes and schedules keep control consistent. This split keeps both sides stable and easy to manage. [Elektroda, Interesant, post #19496460]

Which platform offers local, cloud‑free control with dedicated modules?

HomeMatic with a CCU3 controller runs locally without the cloud. It includes modules for roller shutters, windows, and traditional heating. You can extend it with custom electronics. Edge case: Electric underfloor heating may lack ready‑made modules, so plan custom work. This keeps control private and responsive. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19496667]

Is there a low‑cost, DIY‑friendly platform in Poland?

Yes—Supla by Zamel fits DIY builds. Use the vendor cloud or run a local server on Raspberry Pi. If a device is missing, build it and integrate it. Start small and expand room by room. This keeps costs manageable while you learn. [Elektroda, steve2, post #19496607]

Can I get thermostat‑like control for electric floor heating in Supla today?

The current Supla release lacks a native thermostat. Handle control using an ESP8266 with scripts for now. Alternatively, pair a standalone thermostat with a Supla relay for app control. Check the Supla forum for examples and updates. You can migrate to native support when released. [Elektroda, steve2, post #19496753]

How do I schedule multi‑speed mechanical ventilation from my phone?

Drive each fan speed with a relay output and build time schedules. Many control panels can be wrapped by a 4‑relay module to select modes. Create quiet, normal, and boost time blocks. Map one relay per speed and avoid simultaneous activations. This yields simple, dependable ventilation control. [Elektroda, steve2, post #19496831]

How do I switch a hot‑water boiler (DHW) on a schedule from my phone?

Use a smart relay to switch the boiler’s control circuit. Create day and night schedules, plus a manual override. How‑To:
  1. Install a relay rated for the boiler enable input or contactor.
  2. Wire the relay in series with the boiler enable.
  3. Add on/off schedules and an override scene. This provides predictable comfort and savings. [Elektroda, steve2, post #19496831]

Do electric heating cables modulate current or just switch on/off?

Electric underfloor heating thermostats typically switch the load on/off. They use floor or air sensors to decide when to heat. Advanced models use PWM or SSRs to vary duty cycle, not voltage amplitude. This protects cables and holds temperature tightly. “PWM controls time, not power level.” [Warmup, 2023]

What skills and budget should I expect for a whole‑home phone‑controlled setup?

Choose between DIY and hiring an integrator. DIY needs electrical and some programming skill. Outsourcing costs more but saves time and risk. “You can make a low‑budget system… or outsource it,” one pro notes. Define scope, timeline, and support upfront to avoid surprises. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19496601]

Can I open the entrance gate and wicket from the same app and tie actions to camera views?

Yes, with systems like Satel. The mobile app supports camera previews and macros to trigger actions. Assign a macro to a view to open a gate. You can also control the alarm in the same app. One remote can operate gates, lights, and more. [Elektroda, skyguy, post #19499197]

How should I define “control” for heating, ventilation, and DHW when planning?

Decide if you need simple on/off or full temperature and speed control. This changes device and wiring choices. For ventilation, specify gears and time slots. For heating, confirm sensor types and safety limits. Clear definitions prevent redesigns and extra costs. [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19496667]

Do I need to exclude cameras to keep my build simple?

No. Keep cameras in a separate app if your main platform lacks CCTV. You can automate the rest under one app. This split improves stability and support. It avoids brittle, unsupported integrations. “Monitoring need not be excluded.” [Elektroda, Anonymous, post #19496601]

Should I use Supla’s cloud or self‑host it?

Use the vendor cloud for quick setup and remote access. Self‑host on a Raspberry Pi for privacy and offline resilience. Both options live within the same ecosystem. Choose based on comfort and uptime needs. You can switch later if requirements change. [Elektroda, steve2, post #19496607]

Can a private user get Ampio’s configurator without certification?

Policies change, and many pro systems restrict configurators to certified partners. Contact Ampio to confirm current access, training, or paid options. Ask about end‑user profiles for minor adjustments. Clarify support and warranty implications beforehand. This keeps control without breaching vendor terms. [Ampio, 2024]
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