Become a Fibaro smart home installer and grow your business

@Erbit .
But why the aggression ?
Look at what you write, on the one hand you brag about your schedule and you don't have to change anything but you have to change your schedule when you are sick ? On the one hand you boast about the schedule and you don't have to change anything, but you have to change the schedule when you are sick? In addition, the last year has shown that established paths change very quickly. The question worth answering is whether it is the system that has to adapt to your changing needs or you that has to adapt to the system. Tell someone they can't get home before 3.10 p.m. in winter because the house won't be heated or they have to click something while driving in snowdrifts. I wonder how much you are able to dry the walls e.g. in summer when the humidity is 70-80% as it was a few days ago in my area. The range of temperature changes I observe with my underfloor heating have a very long time constant and the implemented PID for controlling the loops allows to set the temperature quite precisely. In your case the need for heating appears around 16*C and in my case it is shifted to 10*C if only for a few hours the sun comes out. Despite the fact that the house is uninsulated. If you are constantly using too high a temperature, e.g. 60*C on the supply and the radiators could easily handle 45*C, then believe me, you have considerable losses in supplying this temperature to the radiator and also when it is not working, because most often the heads allow a minimal amount of flow and gravity does its job without a pump.
Everyone has their own mind and acts according to what dictates them, but my observations and those of my friends differ significantly from yours.

Returning to the main thread, I am still waiting for a building intelligence system that will have AI sewn into it to be able to anticipate users' needs such as circulation, turning on scenes, triggering alarms etc. Because a good smart system is one that you don't have to look into, let alone pull out a tool of enslavement like a smartphone. I don't understand the delight in controlling basic things with a phon at home, but if you take it out to unlock an app, find a tile and turn on an electrician's switch in 2 seconds with a raise of the hand, you can probably fit it in 1 second.

Linoge wrote:

cannot get home in winter before 15:10 because the house will be unheated or while driving in snowdrifts he will have to click something

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As I read your search for a hole in the whole, I am reminded of the classic Polish film - "and if here one day in the future your mother", etc, etc.

I do not understand this discussion. I don't understand this aggression and negative narrative. Maybe you wanted to demonstrate something, but it is not relevant to the topic, which is "Become a FIBARO smart home installer and grow your business".

For those who wonder about the sensibility of wireless systems (such as Fibaro), I have one very life-like argument. When renting a house or flat, we most often do not have the possibility or the desire to perform wired installations. Modules with radio communication often allow us to add functions, without much hassle, with minimal interference that doesn't disturb walls and finishes. And if you move, the system can be easily dismantled and taken with you. Not everyone lives their whole life in one place. .
As for the electricity bill, electricity is so ridiculously cheap in the Netherlands that I totally don't care how many lights are on and for how long. If I pay €10 for 120 kWh and €12 for 160 kWh, there is really no point in looking for savings here. What matters is the convenience of the system components.
For the curious, most modules of such home automation work at my house for watering plants. Others monitor air quality (CO2 levels, TVOC, temperature and humidity) to initiate ventilation. A bonus is the control of windows and doors. The underfloor heating is completely maintenance-free and there is no point in adjusting it, as you only see the effects the next day. Hot water? The heat exchanger providing hot water does not have a single electrical component. It heats the water when it is needed and uses hot water from the municipal network. And that's it.
Home automation is not necessarily about switching on the lights in the living room or bedroom, or regulating the temperature in each room. After all, you could get nervous making sure that all the doors are locked, especially with children running around the house. Nor does home automation require a constant connection to the cloud, artificial intelligence or the more real-life intelligence of the user. It's a set of tools that are meant to make our daily lives easier, not be used to show off. I think so, but maybe I don't fully understand the point of home automation.

I wouldn't mind at all if someone from Fibaro presented the elements from the offer in real-life conditions, as a working system. Not in a marketing way, but in a human way, without lurking that this or that bug will be fixed in the next version of the software. Such a presentation of the products on the forum has a chance of being positively received, because basically we like to help, and the problem is that we are allergic to marketing dimwittedness.

Marek_Skalski wrote:

Home automation is not necessarily about switching on the lights in the living room or bedroom, or adjusting the temperature in every room. After all, you can get neurotic if you have to make sure all the doors are locked, especially when children are running around the house. Home automation also does not at all require a constant connection to the cloud, artificial intelligence or the user's more real-world intelligence.

I 100% agree with you. Unfortunately many people still view home automation through sonoffs, tuye, tasmots, domoticze etc. Remote switching off/on of lights or other lighting effects is really not even a necessary addition to such automation. At my house, the automation is responsible for maintaining humidity (that's more important) and temperature in all the rooms, which involves controlling lots of different devices that 'chat' to each other via WiFi (no supervisor server). No fiddly super colour tft displays at the controls and no internet access. When something goes wrong, it's only then that people start to appreciate the benefits of this automation.

Marek_Skalski wrote:

I wouldn't be at all angry if someone from Fibaro presented elements from the offer in real conditions, as a working system.

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I am also in favour of this. I personally am not interested in "sexy" graphics on tablets showing some control elements, but just specific use cases of the Fibaro system with specific control devices, sensors, etc.

The discussion on this topic is beginning to resemble an exchange between a race car owner and a truck owner.
Both claim that their car is the best.

Smarthome is not for people who think it's just about controlling the lights from their phone and who waste their money on such trinkets.

Hello
Smart or smart.... I became interested in this topic some time ago. I liked FIBARO because it was nice and polish. I bought some sensors. I installed and got it up and running. Super. It works. I decided that since it looked so cool, I would expand my system with more controllers and sensors. I wanted to add existing devices to the system, because why duplicate.... Theoretically, it is possible. Only that in order to do so, you have to wait for the system to be updated. And this is where the trouble begins. For example, the energy consumption meter recommended by FIBARO as compatible does not work. The readings are wrong. I have been waiting for a solution to this issue for 10 months now.
Lukasz