Installation of an electric heater in the Vaillant vih r 150/6 B storage tank

Question

Hello. I want to install an electric heater to the Vaillant vih r 150/6 B tank. Theoretically, there is no such option. But apparently you can put it in place of the water drain. Has anyone practiced this?

ls_77 · Accepted Answer

All spigots from above are a bad idea. The one marked for DHW circulation, as well as for ZW and DHW, have plastic inserts installed inside - such tubes that direct water to the right place in the tank: ZW - is the longest and reaches the bottom of the tank DHW - is the shortest because it has to collect water from the top of the tank circulation - is of medium length because it is to direct the returning HUW more or less in the middle. If you mount the heater there somehow, it will be wrapped in a tube - it will have a cover that will prevent proper heat dissipation. The most correct mounting location is the drain from the tank - only I have never dismantled this valve and I do not know what the thread is there.

andrzej lukaszewicz · Accepted Answer

The heater at the top will heat only 10% of the tank volume and the thermostat will turn it off. Therefore, the heaters are mounted halfway down the tank.

mauri_b · Accepted Answer

1/2

ROWE · Answer

If you can physically do it, and you can, there are no contraindications here.

VPS · Answer

Well done YOU how to mount the heater in the place of the water drain, which is 1/2 The only place where the heater could be mounted is where the magnesium anode is screwed in, but I do not advise removing the anode.

ROWE · Answer

Call and ask about thread dimensions: Anyway, it's a custom-made heater.

zales.vip · Answer

After all, a colleague of VPS has already summed it up - congratulating the idea of screwing the heater into the 1/2 thread Besides - depriving yourself of a water drain - is also not a great idea. I am generally not a fan of this combination. Buy a container with a place for the heater and after the case.

mauri_b · Answer

You can install a 1/2 heater with a tee, such as a radiator heater, max power 600W. You screw the drain valve into the tee. You can do it even without draining the water.

syybin · Answer

In fact, there is a 1/2 anode thread, I would not like to remove it, but there is one more place where it could be mounted. I mark the arrow. What do you think?

ROWE · Answer

html @syybin: similar topic for comparison Installation of an electric heater in a Junkers WST120-50 tank

syybin · Answer

Yes, there is 1/2. Only the length of the heater through the coils limits me. The question is what is the maximum length

ROWE · Answer

Like the design, it allows it to last as long as possible.

akm97 · Answer

Hello. Did you manage to dig into the topic of adding a heater?

syybin · Answer

Unfortunately not. I don't know what length. And I don't want to buy blindly

akm97 · Answer

Cross-sections of this reservoir are available online. They show that the coil extends to the drain hole. So in my opinion, either no heater will enter, because it will immediately catch on the coil, or practically every heater will enter if it hit the gaps between the coils

Jurek Jurecki · Answer

Is there the same answer to VIH R 200 regarding the addition of an electric heater as to VIH R 150? If it is not possible, does Vaillant offer such a 200l tank that would be easy to mount to the VKK 366 system with the VRC20 regulator existing since 2008?

VPS · Answer

Do you absolutely need a VIH tank? It is not possible to mount an electric heater to any of the VIH series tanks. There are other companies' tanks on the market made of enamelled steel or stainless steel with exits from the top or side where there is a special place for the installation of an electric heater, usually 5/4 or 6/4. What is VRC20 because I do not know?

Jurek Jurecki · Answer

sorry, it was supposed to be VRC 420 please specify which one do you recommend /company model/ so that the replacement is the least troublesome, I wonder if I need as much as 200l, the more that we now live in 2 and sometimes 3 people? Or maybe a 200 liter will be more efficient? should I remove the old VIH200 and put a new one in its place? will control be maintained with my VRC 420?

VPS · Answer

An average of 50 liters per person is assumed, so 150 liters is standard. If the HUW needs are greater, it is 200 litres. Whatever you choose, it will still be a rework of connections. I suggest enamelled Kospel, stainless steel Drazice Termica, Vasti. Currently, when replacing the tank, it is worth considering whether to choose a tank for the heat pump in the future (larger surface of the coil). To the pump as found and the gas boiler will heat hot water faster. VRC 420 is a controller for two heating circuits (radiators and floor) plus control of the hot water tank from the temperature sensor placed in the tank

maxhubus · Answer

Hello Have your colleagues finally managed to come up with ways to add a heater through the drain valve in the Vaillant hot water tank?

ls_77 · Answer

I asked the manufacturer of heaters about the possibility of using an electric heater - for a bathroom radiator - with a 1/2 thread, because such a thread is in place of the drain valve in Vaillant tanks and this is the answer I got: The heaters are made of copper covered with a nickel coating, while tanks made of ordinary enamelled steel - no in terms of material has a problem with electrocorrosion and work in tap water. We suggest using a 1500W heater for 120l tanks, and 2000W for 150l and 200l tanks. The elements have thermostats with an adjustment range of 10-65 degrees Celsius, both also have immersion length (thread + heating element) 520mm. 1500W 2000W I will just ask what if the heating element touches the coil in the tank - will there be a corrosion point? I am not sure if there is free space for the heater in these tanks, will the coil collide? As a rule, we do not recommend the use of heaters in the event of a collision with the coil. At metal/metal contact, the heat dissipation occurs in a different way, which can lead to uneven heating of the heating element. In addition, each time there are so-called stray currents which may negatively affect the heating elements/tank. Contact to the coil would close the circuit, which could lead to faster operation. In such cases, the heating element on the thread should be insulated with insulating material. They go in length, but I don't know if they will touch the coil. It was also good to use a tee as for heaters for bathroom radiators and mount the heater through the hole, and the drain valve back on the outlet. I haven't done it myself, but I'll give it a try when I get the chance.

marmisie1974 · Answer

Hello, The question is, how did you manage to dismantle the drain valve so that it can be glued or the heater will come in? I also want to check in my VIH r 150, but I have a valve by the wall, unscrew it, I would probably unscrew it and see something there, but I have a slightly difficult situation ... I also have photovoltaics and I’m trying to figure out what to do with the surpluses.. I have already installed a few of these radiators - from Terma and through a tee it would be ok, plus a time switch and maybe it would be ok. The question is only about this coil and the temperature sensor, but I think that the sensor is in the middle of the tank, it would not interfere. mich

ls_77 · Answer

Dora message - the heater went in without a problem. I turned the drain valve. Together with the heater there was a tee for assembly so I could screw the drain valve back into the side branch of the tee. Only between the muff in the tank and the tee I gave a short 1/2 extension so that there was easy access to the drain valve. I had to tune the extension - drill its hole because it had a hexagonal hole and the heater did not enter it. The heater did nothing. Satisfied customer. I carried out the operation on a 120L tank + 2kW heater. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures because my phone died.

marmisie1974 · Answer

Hello , Well, that's great news. I will look at it in my WIH R 150 and let you know. Probably the issue of these coils of the coil so that they did not fall into the opening line ...

soldar45 · Answer

Hello. You can enter the name of the heater, manufacturer. VIH R 120/6 B storage tank

ls_77 · Answer

Something like this:

soldar45 · Answer

Thank you very much.

Lelon007 · Answer

Hey, very good news. Was this tee included with the heater or did you have to order it separately? I understand that you had to drain the water from the boiler to install the tee and the heater? Thank you in advance for your response

ls_77 · Answer

Yes - the nozzle was included with the heater. Yes - I had to drain the water from the tank.

Installation of an electric heater in the Vaillant vih r 150/6 B storage tank

Post #1

Post #2

Post #3

Post #4

Post #5

Post #6

Post #7

Post #8

Post #9

Post #10

Post #11

Post #12

Post #13

Post #14

Post #15

Post #16

Post #17

Post #18

Post #19

Post #20

Post #21

Post #22

Post #23

Post #24

Post #25

Post #26

Post #27

Post #28

Post #29

Post #30

Topic summary