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Integrating BFT Thalia Gate Operator with Shelly Uni for AC/DC Detection

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  • #1 20322356
    lisz
    Level 9  
    Hey, that's the situation:

    - BFT Thalia light gate control panel to be controlled/read by Shelly Uni
    - The control panel output for accessories gives 29V AC (it should be 24V AC ). This is unfortunately too much for Shelly, so I connected it via a separate 12V power supply DC . So I have AC on the control panel and DC on Shelly. Controlling the switchboard with this current works for me, worse with reading the switchboard --> Shelly
    - the control panel on ports 20/21 gives power to the warning light - current flows when the gate leaves move; this is the aforementioned 29VAC accessory current
    - I would like to detect this current with a binary sensor from Shelly; this is (I think) a "reed sensor", its designation is IN_1 or IN_2 (there are 2 such sensors): consists of a single connection to the circuit, which should detect a binary state of 0 or 1
    - Unfortunately, my Shelly powered by 12VDC, does not detect 29VAC. My guess is that it can only detect the current it is supplied with (does this make sense?).
    - so I came up with the idea of inserting a relay between ports 20/21 and the Shelly, which would switch on from 29VAC, while on power/transmission it would have 12VDC, which I would take from "my" 12VDC power supply (and switching would be from the control panel)
    With a standard 5 pin relay it would look like this:
    85 and 86 - 29VAC from the control panel
    30 - "plus" from the 12VDC supply
    87 - diode and to the 'minus' of the 12VDC supply, and somewhere in there attached sensor IN_1 from Shelly

    Does this make sense and a request for a suitable relay. The currents are small: AC is 5W max, and DC as much as the diode. Or alternatively, how else to embrace this. Below are the schematics.

    Integrating BFT Thalia Gate Operator with Shelly Uni for AC/DC Detectionsh.jpg Download (18.9 kB) Integrating BFT Thalia Gate Operator with Shelly Uni for AC/DC Detectionbft.jpg Download (97.23 kB)
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  • #2 20323316
    lisz
    Level 9  
    Leaving the subject of AC/DC aside - the control panel has an AUX3 output (terminals 26/27) which it controls, but it does not power. It can be set, for example, to be closed when the gate is closed and at other times, open.

    So that's what I did, I pulled the plus and minus there from the 12V DC power supply and one "reed sensor". I was afraid that this might overload the power supply, so I gave the circuit a 12V bulb. Everything was OK, the sensor was detecting voltage when it needed to, and the bulb was not lit. I concluded from this that there was a safety feature on the control panel side so that it wouldn't take power. So I knocked the bulb out and zonk: Shelly doesn't turn on at all, as if the power supply has just been overloaded. I reinstated the bulb - it works.

    Can someone explain this niggle to me? What should I plug in there to make it work long term (a car bulb, even though it doesn't light up, is probably not the best choice). Thanks in advance :) .
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