Control of the ESP8266 via Tuya: Integration into the app as a WiFi socket

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Hi Please tell me if it is currently possible to make it so that I can control the ESP8266 using the Tuya app? I have a free ESP8266 board and would like it to be seen in the Tuya app as a WiFi socket - that is, I turn on the socket and the relay connected to one of the CPU pins turns on. I...

kaczakat · Answer

People are figuring out how to upload an open-source Tasmota program to the ready-made Tuya modules, and you are combining in the other direction. The TYWE1S or TYWE3S modules are with an ESP8266 chip, this can work as with other modules on ESP8266. Tuya in the description of the TYWE1S module has the information that the chip is ESP8266EX, which is the same as I see in my ESP-01, they made their board, added FLASH and done.
However, in the link of this topic you have:
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Tuya doesn't use ESP8266 anymore, because I guess they were too easy to convert to Tasmot. I no longer see any modules with ESP when creating my own device:

Have you actually managed to get to the ESP selection or are you just asking so theoretically?

Michal_212 · Answer

Well, I've just managed to get to the modul selection, but I didn't find any for ESP8266 there.
I mean, this way I won't do it anymore. Or would it be possible to upload something else that would make the ESP8266 module detectable by the Tuya app?

kaczakat · Answer

People do it the other way round, because it's cheaper to buy a TUYA socket for 30£, beautiful, tiny, reasonably safe, usually with energy metering, than it is to helicopter your own device. You're not going to pack that aesthetically with an ESP8266 plug and relay, and not for 30£. And how this can pay off for the Chinese Tuya is anyone's guess, why they need all these half-price devices in the homes of Europeans. And in order to cut themselves off from this network, they load alternative software. By the way, when you're at home you don't need the internet to work.
I use Tasmot's ESP, I have my HA server, you can make such a server on a terminal for 80PLN or on a Raspberry Pi. There is also a simple Android app, but I haven't tested it. With Tasmota you also have a web server, you enter via IP directly into the device, you can have a very sophisticated controller managed not only by your finger, but also by clock schedule or sunrise. There is also ESPHome.
You absolutely want Tuya, then buy a WIFI module, which currently allows you to add to your network.
Such a Tuya ready-made socket is even cheaper:

But if it doesn't have to be hidden somewhere, I would personally already prefer a socket with energy measurement.
If the power is too low, a voltage can be supplied from this to switch on a higher-power relay.

p.kaczmarek2 · Answer

First time I've heard of such an idea, as the predecessor wrote, it's not even worth it, but well, let's think.... it seems to me that if you uploaded a batch from some BW-SHP8 or other ESP product to your module it might work. Only, you wouldn't be able to select the pins. And you would have to think about how to do the pairing. I don't know if it's worth trying, but here are batches from Tuya products, also on ESP8266:
https://github.com/openshwprojects/FlashDumps/tree/main/IoT/ESP8266

kleha · Answer

Take a peek here: Maybe you will find it useful

p.kaczmarek2 · Answer

@kleha why do you think the communication protocol between WiFi module and MCU here could be useful? He is only used in devices based on TuyaMCU:
TuyaMCU protocol - communication between microcontroller and WiFi module
If the device is built based on WiFi module alone, TuyaMCU is not used.

bond3113 · Answer

supla software uses esp modules

Karol966 · Answer

So any clever big IoT ecosystem is better off leaving and switching to Tasmot/ HA/ Supla? No sonof or tuya gives no security as I understand it, ie we have the manufacturer's cloud and it has "power" over us

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Tuya has an app, it's cool, so does sonofa. Supla supposedly does too and when wifi/internet access goes down the algorithms die (weak it is). For a grey bread eater in the IoT field like me, it's supposed to be simple to the point of pain, with a convenient app and at the same time not be shrouded in notoriety. Writing it this way, I wonder if there are times when users of tuya/sonof smartthings have some external problems....

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