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Emergency power supply for router or modem

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  • On my estate, the biggest problem is the frequent lack of electricity. The situation repeats itself almost every week and this occurs for several hours. I don't know the reasons - there is construction going on around here and maybe there is an interruption when connecting new buildings. Fortunately, the laptop battery, despite its age, still provides support, so I could work in peace, but I don't have internet at the time, as the modem is powered from the mains.

    Circuit diagram of a backup power supply (UPS) for modems and routers.
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    Emergency power supply diagram


    Design of emergency power supply for router or modem .
    On behalf of a client, I developed an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) for an alarm system installed in a garage where power interruptions are constant. This UPS contains a charging circuit for two or three Li-Ion cells, a DC-DC converter from 3.7 to 12V. And it can be used as an emergency power source for a modem or router. For this reason, I have decided to share this project.

    Atakum Labs backup power supply circuit board.
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    View of plate from top


    This first one is made on a TP4056 IC and FS3401 field effect transistors. The cell temperature sensor is not used in this case. The LEDs LED1-2 show the status: red - charging, green - its end. The specialised DW01A circuit, which controls a pair of FS8205A field-effect transistors, is responsible for overcharging protection. These are connected between the minus of the battery and the ground of the device.

    Top view of a housing for two or three cells.
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    View from below


    The DC-DC converter from 3.7-5 to 12V is made on the MT3608B chip. It is powered from a USB port from a regular charger, providing a current of no less than 1A, or from 18650 batteries connected in parallel when there is no voltage from the charger. The output voltage can be adjusted by changing the value of resistors R8-R9.

    I had to create this schematic from photos of a ready-made Chinese instrument as part of Reverse Engineering. The circuit board, on the other hand, I developed myself. It is dedicated for a socket for 2 or 3 cells. If a socket for 2 is used, part of the board can easily be cut off. Surface mount, but due to the larger size SMD components used, they can be soldered by hand. Circuits (wires), transmitting high current, should be strengthened with a thick layer of solder.
    The board can be made yourself or ordered from Chinese factories using the files I have attached below.

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  • #2 21433711
    Camis
    Level 10  
    I am looking for such a module, but I only see on Aliexpress modules up to 15-20W. And I would need one that would give 2.5A on 12V that is 22-26W.
    I have to power a Router, OLT, and a small PC that does Proxmox/NAS. The backup time would be enough for 3-5 minutes so that the server shuts down and the file system doesn't crash.
    Now I have an APC 500 UPS, but this mare is big and draws a lot of power in IDLE.

    Would it be possible to convert this project to a more powerful one, e.g. 3A?
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  • #4 21434294
    szymon122
    Level 38  
    In my opinion, the easiest way to do this is to buy a PD 65W powerbank, plug in a constant charge from the socket, connect a step-up converter to the output for 12V, or simply connect an 'initiator' that negotiates 12V to the output and connect something like this via a schottky diode to the power supply that normally powers the devices.

    As soon as 230V is lost, the 12V from the power supply will start to fade and, once 11.8V is exceeded, the powerbank will 'take over'.
    Something like this, together with the circuit forcing 12V from the powerbank, goes to fit on a small board with 12V input and output for the devices.
  • #5 21434307
    krzbor
    Level 27  
    Here 2 more modules without a case: 4A - Link or 3A - Link . However, please note that these are "Chinese amps". Therefore, if you want to get 3A it is better to buy for 4A or more.
  • #9 21436090
    Karol966
    Level 31  
    >>21434529 I have, tested, for the router perfect, purchase cost under 10zł with shipping to PL. There is no option to make it worthwhile to do it yourself.

    PS. I came across a circuit for 2 cells, where the cell holders were mounted differently (one correctly, the other not). On the PCB, of course, the polarity is marked, but when inserting the cells I suggested directly to the socket - smoke/fire flew. Since then, the circuit has only worked for one cell. As it turned out during the autopsy - I was lucky, first I put in the correct cell and the wrong one burned the path between the cells. The seller refunded me the entire purchase price and I repaired the circuit :) .
  • #10 21436134
    Dawid90u
    Level 23  
    For a terminal drawing a maximum of 8W, will this also be suitable? I am currently using a classic UPS. And I wonder whether such an uninterruptible power supply wouldn't be better in terms of the energy drawn from the mains when idle. It's probably just a question of whether the power supply should be 12V or 19V, depending on the type of power supply.
  • #11 21436169
    chemik_16
    Level 26  
    >>21436134 .
    These from aliexpress can be connected in parallel. The voltage can be raised on the inverter, someone even described here, probably up to 20-odd volts.
    Only still the whole thing is powered from 5V, so you will need a lot of powerful 5V power supplies :) .
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  • #12 21437494
    MiroLord
    Level 26  
    At my place, I used a Techtron ZA-TECH 500 uninterruptible power supply unit with a 65 Ah battery purchased a few years ago. It is used to maintain power supply to the central heating pumps and in addition I have drawn power from it to the router. Outside the heating period, the power supply unit mainly protects the router and a few led lights; this solution proved its worth during last year's flood, where the power cut lasted almost 48 hours - it was also possible to charge phones without any problems.
  • #14 21444954
    nasu
    Level 22  
    I have such a ready-made DC1036P MINI DC36W 2A 5V/9V/12V
    but it heats up a lot

    Open electronic device showing batteries and circuit board.
  • #15 21445050
    VPSA132
    Level 25  
    The nice thing about this project would be that it would be possible to set the charging voltage of the cells. I would prefer that the cells are not sustained at 4.2V all the time. This will be detrimental to their service life.
    The charge cut-off would have to be set at 3.9V, maybe even less. It is obvious that the capacity of the pack is lower, but it is something for something.
    In addition, a design based on a 1SxP pack for 20W and above is a dud.
    The cells will draw a current of 5.5A and higher and this generates large voltage drops and a lot of losses on the inverter.
    For this purpose, I suggest only a step-down inverter with e.g. 4S1P.
  • #16 21449471
    lukiiiii
    Level 29  
    And is it a coincidence that buffer operation for lithium cells is already disadvantageous?
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  • #17 21449485
    VPSA132
    Level 25  
    It's not as you have a reduced stand-by voltage. It's just keeping the voltage high on the cells that will whip them. It's as if you store the cells at 4.2V all the time for years. When the voltage drops to 4.1V you recharge immediately to 4.2V. The lifespan will drop dramatically.
  • #18 21449502
    stellardrone90
    Level 20  
    I bought a UPS from greencell a couple of years ago and I can safely recommend it.So far it hasn't let me down
  • #19 21449604
    chemik_16
    Level 26  
    >>21449485 .
    somewhere here was a description of this power supply what I attached, but I can't find anything on the electrode, although I participated in that thread :D
    as I have now checked, it bravely holds the cells at 4.23V.
    I have not noticed any effect on the service life after a year, they still have the same capacity, and at least they were not new from the beginning.
    I have not had a power cut of more than 30 minutes in a year.
  • #20 21449642
    VPSA132
    Level 25  
    chemik_16 wrote:
    further have the same capacity
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    What did you check the capacity on?
    What model of cells? Are you able to give an IR before and after one year in the device?
  • #21 21449757
    chemik_16
    Level 26  
    VPSA132 wrote:
    chemik_16 wrote:
    further have the same capacity
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    What did you check the capacity on?
    What model of cells? Are you able to give an IR before installation and after a year in the device?
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    On a li-500 charger. doesn't analyse it much, just has the same results as cells that are just lying around in a box, from a demob of the same laptop battery pack.

    I only mention this because I would love to lower the voltage, but I don't know if it's possible in the circuit of this charger, without cheating it too much.
    Especially as the whole thing heats up more than I would like.
  • #22 21453818
    VPSA132
    Level 25  
    Find a charging circuit and give the output two schottky diodes :) .
  • #23 21453822
    chemik_16
    Level 26  
    >>21453818 .
    this will ensure that the charger never switches off ;)

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the need for an emergency power supply for routers and modems due to frequent power outages. Users share various solutions, including using power banks with step-up converters, purchasing specific modules from Aliexpress, and utilizing existing UPS systems. Suggestions include ensuring the power supply can handle the required wattage (22-26W) and considering the efficiency of different setups. Some users recommend ready-made UPS units like the Techtron ZA-TECH 500 and Greencell products, while others discuss the importance of battery management for longevity. The conversation highlights the need for reliable power solutions in environments with unstable electricity supply.
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