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Automating a well pump instead of a hydrofuge - how to do it?

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  • #1 15576674
    klapy4
    Level 10  
    Hello
    I live in a house and have two wells. The first one is high up and I have good water pressure from it but in summer it runs out. The second one has never run out of water yet but I have low pressure so I have to have a hydrophore. The hydrophore is old, it gets old, it takes up space and it doesn't give me the same good pressure as the first well. Everything is interconnected so that when the pressure drops due to lack of water it automatically switches to the hydrophore. The idea is to use a pump placed in this second well instead of the hydrophore, which will pump water (through the same pipes with which the water is connected) not to the tank at home but to the first well. The idea is, of course, to fully automate it, as I would walk around and control the water level in the tanks, which is no problem to do. The problem is that I don't know if it's possible to do something like this at all without using additional pipes, because I dug new pipes not long ago and digging again is rather out of the question. What I would need is a water presence sensor which would give a signal to some kind of pump supply controller when there is no water. Only then would the pressure in the pipes automatically rise and the sensor would be flooded and cut off power to the pump, so the controller would have to work in such a way that after receiving a single signal from the sensor, it would apply voltage to the pump for, say, 30 minutes. I know it's a bit complicated but if it's only possible to do something like this then thanks in advance for your help.
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  • #2 15576736
    brofran
    Level 41  
    klapy4 wrote:
    I would need a water presence sensor

    Float switches with minimum and maximum water level control are used for this purpose.
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  • #3 15576744
    klapy4
    Level 10  
    I'm keen not to dig a trench again for the cable to the first well because it's quite a large piece, about 250m.
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  • #4 15576800
    brofran
    Level 41  
    klapy4 wrote:
    Hydrophore is old, breaking down

    It is probably the easiest way to replace it with a new one ( or the pump itself with motor ) .
  • #5 15576966
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    klapy4 wrote:
    does not guarantee me such good pressure as the first well


    Too much pressure is not beneficial either.

    klapy4 wrote:
    I would need a water presence sensor which will give a signal to some pump supply controller when there is no water.


    You might be interested in something like this:

    Wireless liquid level sensor: http://www.e-alarmy.pl/1348p-sbe-15a---bezprzewodowy-czujnik-poziomu-cieczy---szambometr.html which works with a pump control module http://www.e-alarmy.pl/735p-awz514---modul-przekaxnikowy-duzej-mocy.html

    This does not change the fact that there must be a cable to the second well where the pump would be.
  • #6 15576996
    WędkarzStoLica
    Level 31  
    And isn't it simpler to deepen the well?
    mawerix123 wrote:
    This doesn't change the fact that there must be a cable to the second well where the pump would be.
    From what I understood, he wants to mount the pump on a pipe, 250m from the well :)
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  • #7 15577008
    mawerix123
    Level 39  
    WędkarzStoLica wrote:
    From what I understood, he wants to mount the pump on a pipe, 250m from the well


    I understood that he wants to get rid of the pump from the house by reading this ;) but I could be wrong.

    klapy4 wrote:
    Hydrophore is old, breaking down, taking up space
  • #8 15578111
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #9 15579141
    klapy4
    Level 10  
    Quote:
    Too much pressure is not beneficial either.

    Just this pressure from the upper well is just right

    Quote:
    I understood that he wants to get rid of the pump from the house by reading this ;) but I could be wrong.

    Well understood. By the way I wanted to use a top water tank instead of a bubbler at home mainly because of the good pressure.

    jaszto wrote:
    The water pressure sensor in the house, even the one from the hydrofoil can switch you on the pump in the lower well.

    Yes only that the moment the pump is switched on the sensor will be flooded immediately and cut off power to the pump.

    As I was thinking rather there is no option without digging :-?
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