F&Home vs Nexwell wired smart home: lighting, roller shutters, LED panel, intercom

Hello.
I would like to set up a smart lighting and roller shutter control system in a detached house. I am at the stage of wiring.
I would like to control lighting scenes (switching, dimming). The light sources will be Leds. I would also like to control the roller shutters (at set times or via a sun sensor. All options must be available via an LED panel with the option of remote control. A video intercom is also important to me. I do not want to install an additional screen for the videophone.
I don't want to do it on a PLC.
I have found the F&Home system from F&F. I use their modular fittings and sensors and am satisfied. I have read about their hardwired system and it is 90% what I am looking for.
Are there any people on the forum who are setting up this system, could they post how it performs, how about failure rates? I would have a few questions.
I would appreciate any feedback.
Regards.



I have also found the manufacturer Nexwell, and from what I have read Nexo offers more.
Will the setup and connection scheme be similar in these systems? Or is there something I need to pay attention to?

I have experience with F&F but typically with automation components, which are not very highly regarded among electricians - there was once a thread somewhere, but I don't know and won't evaluate their F&Home system.
However, if you are interested in the Nexo system, www.nexwell.eu I would recommend first and foremost that you book a free demonstration to your home or other agreed address.
Currently, this system is very extensive both in terms of actuators and the possibility of controlling programmable switches, applications - apart from the LCD panel in F&Home, I do not see any other modules replacing even standard electrical switches. As far as I know, an IP video intercom panel is currently being prepared, together with redirection to a phone when no one is at home. Analogue modules are still available.
The system is very easily programmable, if you are involved in electricity, automation - you should have no trouble with the configuration, more difficult topics - you have the support of engineers from nexwell.
If you have a technical flair, nexwell is a super toy for the big boy

Thank you for your reply.
You just mentioned the video intercom. This is where I have to solve the problem of a videophone about 150m away from the building, apart from the living room the videophone viewing has to be in three other places. This is where I have a problem, does Nexwell have the possibility of connecting a videophone on several screens. The description says analogue videophone.
I am in the process of laying cables so I need to choose the right system. I prefer to lay one more cable than one too few
Generally, in the living room I feed each circuit of the roller shutter, lighting point into the RG. In the other rooms there will be a standard installation, but just in case, apart from the power supply to the switches, I want to lead a twisted-pair cable. The lighting in each room will be on separate circuits.

Damian060709 wrote:

Thank you for your reply.
You mentioned the videophone yourself. This is where I have to solve the problem of the videophone being about 150m away from the building, apart from the living room the videophone viewing has to be in three other places. This is where I have a problem, does Nexwell have the possibility of connecting a videophone on several screens. The description says analogue videophone.
I am in the process of laying cables so I need to choose the right system. I prefer to lay one more cable than one too few
Generally, in the living room I feed each circuit of the roller shutter, lighting point into the RG. In other rooms there will be a standard installation, but just in case, apart from the power supply to the switches, I want to lead a twisted-pair cable. The lighting in each room will be on separate circuits.

With the current analogue module, you can connect 2 LCD panels, for the 3rd, 4th you'll probably need a 2nd videophone card - but you'll probably need to fiddle with the connection as I don't think this is supported as standard, perhaps just use one relay output which will switch the card from which the videophone signal will just be received - a topic for the technical department at nexwell.
As I wrote, I think the IP videophone is still in development, you would have to approach them. If you stay with analogue it's still worth asking the source as to the wiring of that 150m.
When preparing the installation for the IB, you should think everything through right now, first of all you should choose a specific direction for the producer, if you prepare for one, even connecting everything in a star, and when finishing the installation you change your mind, it may turn out that the wiring no longer fits.
Unfortunately, it is not a good idea to combine a standard installation with the IB system, e.g. you want to switch off all the lights in the house with one icon - you will not be sure whether the lights are still on in some rooms when using standard switches. Similarly with roller blinds - here you should necessarily bring them to one place, so that there is a possibility of group control, in addition to a local switch next to the light switch - you do not need to lead a typical YDY cable to it.
A very extensive and extensive topic

Perhaps I have written incorrectly. Let's assume I have a standard installation in 3 rooms. I'm going to run a twisted pair cable to the switch in each room, if I want to switch to IB in those two rooms I'll just have to change the fittings. Yes, do I understand this correctly?
Do I have to make an additional button for the roller shutters? I wanted to lead each roller shutter separately to the RG. It's a pity nexwell doesn't have smaller LCD panels for purposes such as videophone in a few places.
Fellow Kasprzyk have you set up a lot of Nexwell systems? maybe there is another manufacturer that has such a wired system?
Thanks lovely for the clarification.

Damian060709 wrote:

Maybe I wrote it wrong. Suppose I have a standard installation in 3 rooms. I'll run a twisted pair cable to each room to the switch, if I want to switch to IB in these two 3 rooms then I'll only have to change the fittings. Yes, do I understand this correctly?

I'm not a fan of devices being "scattered" around the flat - however, if you do decide to go with this layout - use the pocket boxes, but before installing them you need to check how the modules physically fit into them, how best to insert the wires so you can easily insert/remove the module later.

Damian060709 wrote:

Should I make an additional button for the roller shutters? I wanted to lead each roller shutter separately to the RG. It's a shame nexwell doesn't have smaller LCD panels for purposes such as videophone in several locations.
Fellow Kasprzyk have you set up a lot of Nexwell systems? maybe there is another manufacturer that has such a wired system?
Thanks lovely for the clarification.

Local control of roller shutters is a very useful feature, in my opinion it would be a mistake not to make such switches. Of course, on the main panel you can control each roller shutter separately, but in a situation for example: you want to cover it only partially - you can't see all the roller shutters while standing at the panel, there is still an app on your phone/tablet.
And a lot and not a lot, these are not installations which are commonly done by everyone, often the construction is spread over a period of one to two years (building shell and so on), we do the whole thing comprehensively, in addition to projects. I have no practical experience in other large systems apart from training, courses. I'm sure other forum members will add something.
best regards

@kasprzyk is right with the boxes. I recently struggled to finish an installation after another person who used standard boxes and it was only "after the fact" that the builder came up with the idea of central roller shutter control. standard modules are simply huge and it is difficult to fit them into the boxes. The most cost-effective solution in such cases is a deep box + ring. Boxes with pockets cost more than 20 zł.

ditomek wrote:

the most financially advantageous in such cases is the deep can + ring. Cans with pockets are an expense of more than 20 zł.

The cans with pockets from the Simet range cost well under £20. Either way, countersunk boxes are the standard at the moment for comfortable installation and the possibility of expanding with various types of facilities in the future.