logo elektroda
logo elektroda
X
logo elektroda

What does it take to control a central heating boiler via the Fibaro system?

shik 5220 5
ADVERTISEMENT
Treść została przetłumaczona polish » english Zobacz oryginalną wersję tematu
  • #1 16249860
    shik
    Level 11  
    As per topic. Having a Fibaro system I would like to control a Junkers cerapur smart cooker. I don't need access to the unknown, but having, for example, a temperature sensor in the system I could control the boiler? If so, what would be needed apart from the whole factory kit of course (MB-100 Lan). Is it possible to use some simple module for communication with the furnace and at the same time compatible with the Fibaro control panel?
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • Helpful post
    #2 16254674
    kasprzyk
    Electrician specialist
    This sensor is supposed to do as a thermostat ?
    I don't know fibaro, but probably, like every system, it has ON/OFF relay modules, so one such output is plugged in instead of the room thermostat. So, if you have a temp sensor in the system, and as far as such possibilities are provided by Fibaro, you simply program the room temp - temp reached - boiler lockout on central heating.
    If you have zone heating, you control loop closing.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • Helpful post
    #3 16260285
    kasprzyk
    Electrician specialist
    I don't know if it's about this module, as I wrote I don't know fibaro, I don't see the technical specification there. But you're thinking right, it's about control like this Salus. You don't physically disconnect the boiler from 230V, you only influence the control of the central heating, you have no influence on the hot water.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #4 16280160
    easypl12
    Level 12  
    I propose to solve such control with the Qubino PWM module, this module connects to fibaro via z-wave and has a dallas temperature probe. The target temperature is set via fibaro.
    The module compares the current temperature with the target temperature and if it is too low, it controls a relay inside the module, and the relay controls the actuator of the m30 head on the central heating manifold.
    It is true that we do not control the furnace directly, but if all circuits are closed, the furnace will turn itself off (because it checks the temperature on the return of the water circuit), which means that the target will be reached.

    Of course, instead of this specialised module, it may be sufficient to use a simple relay type module, through which we feed the furnace head, only it will be necessary to make the appropriate scenes in fibaro.

    I would not recommend switching the entire furnace on/off via the relay module, as this can have a negative impact on the furnace electronics.

    I myself planned such a solution in my house, I even laid the appropriate cables, but in the end I gave up, because with the planlessness of underfloor heating it doesn't make much sense and the savings are unlikely to be great. I do, however, have such a solution applied to my garage heating (also underfloor heating, but here I only care about a lower temperature than in the whole house) and the system works well.
  • ADVERTISEMENT
  • #5 16342999
    GanzConrad
    Level 25  
    shik wrote:
    Having a Fibaro system
    .
    have you had it for a long time? i ask seriously, because i would rather trust a dedicated controller from the cooker manufacturer when it comes to controlling the cooker. I've been playing with it for a couple of months and I'm coming to the conclusion that the saying "a day without Fibaro is a day lost" (probably a stiff ;-) ) makes a lot of sense. The most entertaining part is the software updates (especially the beta versions) e.g. the constant forcing of communication with the dies or reconfiguration of modules etc. etc....
  • #6 16343160
    shik
    Level 11  
    GanzConrad wrote:
    shik wrote:
    Having a Fibaro system
    .
    have you had it for a long time? i ask seriously, because i would rather trust a dedicated controller from the cooker manufacturer when it comes to controlling the cooker. I've been playing with it for a couple of months and I'm coming to the conclusion that the saying "a day without Fibaro is a day lost" (probably a stiff ;-) ) makes a lot of sense. The most entertaining part is the software updates (especially the beta versions) e.g. the constant forcing of communication with the dies or reconfiguration of modules etc etc etc...

    Hello.
    I have owned the control panel for about a third month. So far only smoke detectors and a Danfoss valve (I bought for a trial and am happy, will definitely be getting more). I haven't had any problems so far, but with what I've got, it's unlikely I should have.
    I've read various posts on the subject and it's not so blackly described (cooker control). I'm still looking for some sort of optimum solution, as I've found loads of them.
ADVERTISEMENT