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  • #61
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    In this mower, only the engine is ok, the rest is Chinese so-so, and when I read that the mower has, for example, 9in1, my hands drop. Sellers bend descriptions as much as possible just to sell. I would never buy it, so you have to consider whether you want to wade into such Chinese machines or whether it is better to buy something better. The weight of this mower shows that the casing is made of thin sheet metal and may not last a long time.
  • #62
    baki1992
    Level 1  
    Hello,

    I read the whole topic and I wonder what petrol mower to buy. The budget is about 1500-2000 and the mowing area is 1500m2. For now, only the grass is sown, but it is worth starting to look around for something. So far there are no trees or anything. Thanks in advance for the suggestions.
  • #63
    bieder1
    Level 8  
    zagorski-tomasz wrote:
    bieder1 wrote:
    I refresh the topic
    I am looking for something from exhaust gases also up to PLN 1400 or something like that. The key of choice is the drive, 46cm, mumbling, side ejection, rear.
    I consider.
    1. Petrol lawn mower MacAllister B&S 675IS 46 cm with starter price PLN 1448

    2. WORLD GRL 460S HW 4W1 Loncin 166 cm engine, about PLN 1300

    3. STIGA COMBI 48 SQ 166cc PLN 1375

    B&S from the 6 series is already a recommended engine. Loncin from the Chinese also has good reviews. And Stiga because I once had and remained sentiment.


    Out of all this company, definitely the GRL 460S, it will definitely be more durable than the Stigi, MacAlister is a typical Chinese market without spare parts


    In the end, the choice fell on the AL-KO Premium Highline 470 SP-A petrol lawn mower (119946)
  • #64
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    Good choice as you can buy it from your local dealer.
  • #65
    Novile
    Level 34  
    And how I want to present you the "rudeness and greed" of Polish large retail chains regarding the sale of mowers on the market. See what manipulations are used on clients in order to extract as much money from them as possible.
    Recently, on June 1, I came across a nice lawn mower sale offer.
    It even interested me, because the mower, among its many praised advantages, also has a side ejection, which is what I am looking for.
    Description done well with one but, drive info was missing and hence I sent a request to the seller about it. This, however, "slowed me down" with the purchase. There were 150 mowers for sale. Of these, the first 15 were sold "on the trunk".
    And it's not surprising, because there is a drive, 5KM and many advantages. But the price- AWESOME and see the rest for yourself
    What petrol mower to buy?

    Suddenly, as soon as these 16 were sold, the 3rd of June is suddenly
    What petrol mower to buy?

    And looking at the current price (higher by about 36%)! potential buyers do not know that these 15-16 people bought this equipment not for PLN 949.99, but PLN 689.54.
    What's more interesting, the price changed during the auction. To make it funnier earlier, I checked this mower model in terms of price and the prices were from the lowest above, as above, through 700, 800, to 1000 PLN. But after changing the price at the auction, the price is automatically the same for everyone in Poland, i.e. PLN 949.99.
    So price collusion?
    Of course, I did not buy this mower at this price, because that is how much I can choose a different model and a better brand.
    Jedak is outraged by such a rude way of "deer hunting". When something sells well, you will immediately "strip the customer" as much as possible. What a vile greed, be it an importer or a manufacturer. After all, this product is not a revelation, just like thousands of identical clones, there are hundreds of such bushes with such goods (I only checked the names of other mowers themselves). Only the price decided that these "Chinese rice straw" lumber were selling in the beginning. But the traders thought they had "S-class" merchandise and could earn more than it was worth. Currently, there is such "insolence" that they do not even give the proprietary engine, such as B&S or Tecumseh, but only push various types of the cheapest g ... OHV, which has already made its "dizzying career" in power generators. It is cheesy junk on the cheapest components and very emergency and very fuel-consuming (yes, I know someone will contact you here that the OHV has been mowing for 15 years, but I cannot do it).
    It seems to Chinese producers that if they give such an OHV unit an exotic proper name of the Ducar type or similar, it will make it a purebred internal combustion engine of the cheapest motor. And the truth is that it will still be the same engine made of raw materials recovered from melted scrap, without additives and material and alloy technology. Besides, I checked whether there was a chance of buying anything for this mower model, there is NO CHANCE even from the manufacturer. Means it is an ordinary mass, and then "universal" components, also related to similar inventions, are supposed to fit into it. It is similar to buying a cheap shower cubicle in a cheap DIY store where, when the siphon is damaged, you have to replace the entire cubicle with a new one. In addition, it turns out that the company's Stihla or Makita mowers are at a similar price and these companies provide full service and guarantee with their brand developed over the years on the market.
  • #66
    78db78
    Level 40  
    I have about 20ar for mowing, I have an oleomac with 196cm3, the engine is already working for the 5th season and it is important in the mower whether it mows the basket or not, the drive is useful so as not to push the rest, it's even a pity to read. Engines smaller than 196cc are too weak speed control I have but I never use, always mowing is at maximum speed and that's about the topic and not writing about the year to buy a mower, I made my decision in 15 minutes when I was in the store. And after 2 see on YT, the guy takes the EMA's engine apart and compares it to the Honda, it's the same, worse, the B $ S engine falls out.
  • #67
    Novile
    Level 34  
    78db78 wrote:
    I have oleomac
    Buddy, you are answering yourself. Oleo-Mac is one of the best brands on the market. Generally, I don't mean the OHV engine itself because it is an engine type. I mean proprietary engines and mastic made of just about anything. If the mower has a shaft made of "lead", how much will it cut? Mechanical elements of power, where torque is transmitted, gears, shafts, bearings, even rings and pistons, must be prepared in terms of materials. There are structural refinement methods, cyanation, cementation and similar processes that give steels the right parameters and which the Chinese have never even read about, because he has no time or money for it. For this you need quality steel mills and good specialists after graduation, not people taken barefoot with a 50-year-old truck from the rice field and driven to the metallurgical furnace to pour into molds what is melted from scrap from Europe!
    And such things are just going to be exploited. Yes, the appearance of the engines will be similar, but the work will immediately verify the material, especially under the ultimate load conditions.
    During the People's Republic of Poland, the Russians did similar games to the Chinese, but the Russians had one advantage - they made huge reserves of power. Even just anything, the power reserve allowed the device to work a bit until the material showed "fatigue".
    The Chinese, however, does not only do anything about anything else, not only to limit parameters, but even to overstate (cheat) the parameters to tempt the customer.
    Now the newest hit with lawnmowers.
    Can someone explain the term MOWER STARTUP POWER?
    Currently, scammers in the market selling Chinese shoddy have a new sucker recipe:
    the mower has an engine power, e.g. 2KM and the seller of the shop gives 6KM as the starting POWER!
    But there is 6KM in the title of the offers. So he asks what a rocket or mower is. What starting power?
    What petrol mower to buy?

    And it is in the description
    What petrol mower to buy?



    These are pathetic attempts to trick the customer into buying too weak a device at a sensational price.
    I will not mention offers such as "two knives for free", where such a 5-year-old knife will bend on the knee. Mockery of the client.
  • #68
    78db78
    Level 40  
    Hello, it's probably about the max, i.e. let it be starting power = max torque * 0.86 at 4500 rpm
    and net power horsepower = torque * 0.59 at 3100 rpm
    I think that the optimal RPM is 2800 = 2900 more will destroy the engine.
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    As you know, the maximum power of the engine is just a marketing gimmick, and we, the customers, mechanics and sellers, should care about the useful power of the mower.

    Useful power, assuming work at 3100 RPM for B&S engines, it looks like this (maximum engine power in brackets):
    400 - 2.36 hp (3.44 hp)
    450 - 2.66 hp (3.87 hp)
    500 - 2.95 hp (4.30 hp)
    550 - 3.25 hp (4.73 hp)
    575 - 3.39 hp (4.95 hp)
    600 - 3.54 hp (5.16 hp)
    625 - 3.69 hp (5.38 hp)
    650 - 3.84 hp (5.59 hp)
    675 - 3.98 hp (5.81 hp)
    700 - 4.13 hp (6.02 hp)
    800 - 4.72 hp (6.88 hp)
  • #69
    Enjama
    Level 11  
    Hello

    After 12 years, I would like to replace the mower. So far I had a Partner 190cc Briggs Bottom Valve. The mower still works, but the drive is lame, the metal gear of the wheel is broken. I've already earned some extra money from a turner. I will leave it as a spare, I liked the fact that there is no problem with the parts, you can buy everything at Husqvarna even after 12 years.

    Budget up to 2k PLN
    In total, I am swinging between two models:

    World GRL 530S / 560s Loncin 196cc engine

    or pay 500 PLN and buy it

    Weibang WB537SLC Loncin 196cc engine

    Maybe someone knows if these mowers have metal gears?
    And is it worth paying an extra 500 zeta for this Weibang?
  • #70
    krzych101
    Level 12  
    World GRL 530S / 560s I advise against it, I bought this year with a B&S 675 engine they sent me with a damaged drive I wrote to the service in Białystok no response the engine goes out with denser grass, previously I also had B $ S 500 with the engine but it was unstoppable and I bought World GRL 560s because on the gardening forum they praised that good workmanship but it's nonsense and service for nothing, I would not buy this shit anymore, the engine is very weak, the wheels on the bearings shift, and a liter of fuel will burn for an hour, so where's the savings
  • #71
    Enjama
    Level 11  
    krzych101 wrote:
    World GRL 530S / 560s I advise against it, I bought this year with a B&S 675 engine they sent me with a damaged drive I wrote to the service in Białystok no response the engine goes out with denser grass, previously I also had B $ S 500 with the engine but it was unstoppable and I bought World GRL 560s because on the gardening forum they praised that good workmanship but it's nonsense and service for nothing, I would not buy this shit anymore, the engine is very weak, the wheels on the bearings shift, and a liter of fuel will burn for an hour, so where's the savings


    Well, you worried me, because many people recommended this equipment, you have a capacity of 163cc with a weaker Briggs engine
    It aims at a 196cc Loncin.

    Can you tell me what you mean with this wheel shift? You mean that, for example, when withdrawing the lever from the regulation, it changes its position?

    If someone spoke about this Weibang model, is it worth paying extra for it?
  • #72
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    krzych101 wrote:
    World GRL 530S / 560s I advise against it, I bought this year with a B&S 675 engine they sent me with a damaged drive I wrote to the service in Białystok no response the engine goes out with denser grass, previously I also had B $ S 500 with the engine but it was unstoppable and I bought World GRL 560s because on the gardening forum they praised that good workmanship but it's nonsense and service for nothing, I would not buy this shit anymore, the engine is very weak, the wheels on the bearings shift, and a liter of fuel will burn for an hour, so where's the savings


    Here, I would complain to those in Białystok, not to the machine, they sold you something damaged as you write, when the machine is operational, there is no problem with them and they pressed what they had, if, of course, what you write is true
  • #73
    krzych101
    Level 12  
    Why should I write not true, the front wheels are not horizontal, one is higher, the other is lower, the mower moves on 3 wheels because one is always in the air, generally the mower is very heavy, it is difficult to drive without a drive.
    The grass bag is a misunderstanding, when you mow it you can't see the dust, all the dust comes out through the grass basket, it's not a basket material. How can you sell a mower without springs that tension the mower drive belts, where they have internal control The paint comes off in places after several mowing. Where is the very good performance here?
  • #74
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    As far as I know, such a thing happens not only in these mowers but even in more famous companies and it is the fault of the wheel mounting welding probably, you see when someone sold you a mower without a spring tensioning the belt, blame him because maybe they pulled it out themselves, but I do not know the matter and it is not my problem, but I can only sympathize with you, the material basket is like dust is flying from it and you could buy it with a plastic basket, also do not complain by weight because you have seen you buy, I have already seen these mowers in person 10 years old and there was paint on the underside and the rest of the housing in very good condition and when it goes down you should advertise it, well, unfortunately, as you can see, despite the good reputation of these machines, they can also put away the linden
  • #75
    enhanced
    Level 43  
    I bought WORLD GRL 460P HW 166 ccm 4in1 LONCIN there at the end of that year - 8.3 Nm and I can't complain, is there something dust? People, what a text - if you mow dusty places, it will get dusty, it is not a vacuum cleaner with filters.

    The wheels run normally, all four are stable, burns a little, and certainly not a liter per hour, fires an arrow, it is heavy but I knew what I was taking - at least something apart from the engine is and must weigh.

    No paint on the top comes off because I haven't looked at the bottom.

    Apparently you got some broken scrap.
  • #76
    krzych101
    Level 12  
    I am writing which mower from World GRL 530S / 560s I came across, I had no influence on the choice of the basket because it was the only one it was exposed to, I understand that it can get dusty, but if the world is not visible at 30m, it is probably not ok
    Personally, I did not see this mower before buying it, I trusted the opinions from the Internet, but probably most of the positive opinions were issued by the sellers of these mowers. It is definitely a lesson for me for the future
  • #77
    Enjama
    Level 11  
    Gentlemen, I decided on the Weibang company

    I just don't know which engine to choose
    Is Loncin 196 cc 3.6 kW and 10.5 Nm

    Or a more expensive model by about PLN 150

    Kohler XT775 173cc 3.5kW and 10.5Nm engine

    The power is practically the same, only Loncin has a larger engine capacity.

    The model from Kohler is WEIBANG WB536SKL
    The model with Loncin is Weibang WB537SLC 3IN1
  • #78
    palmus
    Level 33  
    If it is possible (drunk more to the moderator) in this thread, someone can suggest a machine for a very small garden? The only criterion is the regularly cut and tangling power cord of the electric charger, which I want to eliminate. I was thinking about a stimulant, but I think it's a cat in a poke. I do not want to give PLN 1,500, unless it is not possible.
  • #79
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    Enjama wrote:
    Gentlemen, I decided on the Weibang company

    I just don't know which engine to choose
    Is Loncin 196 cc 3.6 kW and 10.5 Nm

    Or a more expensive model by about PLN 150

    Kohler XT775 173cc 3.5kW and 10.5Nm engine

    The power is practically the same, only Loncin has a larger engine capacity.

    The model from Kohler is WEIBANG WB536SKL
    The model with Loncin is Weibang WB537SLC 3IN1


    Many companies have already tried Kohler and it's a misfire, you won't buy some parts in a while, generally I wouldn't buy Weibang at all, but if you insist, take Chinese.
  • #80
    Erbit
    Level 42  
    Novile wrote:
    ...
    Can someone explain the term MOWER STARTUP POWER?



    Let me explain. This is "mateting chap."
  • #81
    Enjama
    Level 11  
    zagorski-tomasz wrote:
    Enjama wrote:
    Gentlemen, I decided on the Weibang company

    I just don't know which engine to choose
    Is Loncin 196 cc 3.6 kW and 10.5 Nm

    Or a more expensive model by about PLN 150

    Kohler XT775 173cc 3.5kW and 10.5Nm engine

    The power is practically the same, only Loncin has a larger engine capacity.

    The model from Kohler is WEIBANG WB536SKL
    The model with Loncin is Weibang WB537SLC 3IN1


    Many companies have already tried Kohler and it's a misfire, you won't buy some parts in a while, generally I wouldn't buy Weibang at all, but if you insist, take Chinese.


    I ordered with Loncin, why don't you recommend Weibang?
    Honestly, I haven't found any negative opinions about them on the internet.
  • #82
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    Now, as you ordered this mow, it's too late for such posts as to what, how and why.
  • #83
    adi790
    Level 11  
    Hello .
    I need a new petrol lawn mower with a drive and possibly electric start (but not necessarily). budget max. 2 thousand
    So far there was Nac 375 (tragedy with engine, drive), then Leroy Sterwins brand with B&S 575 with electric start. It lasted two years, i.e. the start-up failed at some point (cables were replaced), and then the drive broke down for good. Now, reading, I am stupid because many people say that Brigs engines are now not the same and better Loncin, or other brands? I care about a mower with spare parts, especially drives and housings. Will someone recommend something sensible that will work and comes without any adventures for a few years. The mower does not have to be powerful, it mows on a regular basis :) if the mower is running. :)
  • #84
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    And look at AL-KO mowers, they have everything you need
  • #85
    petertabak
    Level 10  
    Hello,
    I am a total layman when it comes to petrol lawn mowers, I do not want someone in the store to push the equipment from which I will get the highest commission, but the equipment that I will be happy with and will serve me for years, and spare parts will be available at affordable prices.
    I have a plot of about 10 ares with a noticeable tilt, hence I need a mower with a drive, I think it would be good if it had a mulching function.
    I would also like a mower with the possibility of disengaging the drive, because I read somewhere that not all of them have one, that I can easily withdraw it without lifting it.
    And now the most important thing, the price range is only PLN 1600. What would you recommend? I was looking at Al-Ko 475SP, Highline 527 SP and Oleo-Mac GV25 + 53TK
  • #86
    zagorski-tomasz
    Level 16  
    Definitely AL-KO, but look for this year's models, these are older
  • #87
    grzesiekyogi
    Level 10  
    Quote:
    Definitely AL-KO

    Sorry, Mr. Zagorski-Tomasz, but definitely NOT !!!. That's because AL-KO is powered by Briggs & Stratton engines. Today's brigs are unfortunately a scrap (unlike the old indestructible brigs). They are at least a class (or even two) worse than loncin. You ask why?
    Here you go:
    1) loncin-cast iron cylinder liner / brigs-aluminum (no liner !!!)
    2) loncin- rolling bearing in the body / brigs - no bearing (slide bearing !!!)
    3) loncin- aluminum brigs carburetor - plastic carburetor
    4) loncin- hard brigs crankshaft - guanolite shaft with a much smaller weight and size
    etc. etc.
    You don't believe? Watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLXlOsJpRA4
    Mr. petertabak: take for example the one mentioned by Mr. Oleo-Mac or any other one on the Loncin engine. Avoid all Brigs mowers. It really is gOwnolit!
  • #89
    petertabak
    Level 10  
    Strange situation, but I think I will not choose any of the above, and I think I will go to the Chinese World GRL460S on loncin. I heard only positive opinions about it, it has a powerful engine, everything I need is the availability of parts in a few years, but somehow you have to find a golden mean.
  • #90
    Mierzejewski46
    Level 35  
    petertabak wrote:
    the only thing I'm worried about is the availability of parts in a few years, but somehow you have to find a golden mean.

    In a few years there will be nothing to renovate.
    The equipment for years was years ago. In today's world, people want cheap and colorful. He cares little about quality the way you do.