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  • #1 17914668
    mk761203
    Level 9  
    I have a home automation system on an integra,
    I normally switch the lights on using monostable buttons. Depending on the rooms, 1) the light switches off by itself after a preset time, or 2) I have to switch it off with a second press.
    Is it possible to combine these two options?
    I.e. I can switch the light on with a single press and then switch it off with a second press, but if I do not do so, it switches itself off after a set time, e.g. 5 minutes.
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  • #2 17914709
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Do you have free virtual inputs and outputs on your system?
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  • #3 17914721
    mk761203
    Level 9  
    By all means, virtual ones will be found. Your question already gave me a solution with the logical product :) .
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    #4 17914745
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    It is, for example, like this:

    A lighting control relay is connected to output 5. Set output 5 in the control panel as 25: "Switch Bi", set control inputs 10 and 100.

    Input No. 10 has a monostable button connected to it, configured as "no alarm action" NO line type.

    Set output 100 as "Mono switch", control inputs set to 10, operation time as required shutdown delay in this case 5 min.

    Set output 101 as "end of output signalling" control output 100, operating time 2 seconds

    set output 102 as "logical product of outputs" control outputs 101 and 5

    Set input 100 as "no alarm action" line type according to output 102

    Outputs 100, 101, 102 virtual and input 100 virtual, well I assume that the control panel is a minimum Integra 128 and these outputs I have used are free, if there is a smaller control panel or the outputs and inputs are busy then of course you need to change to ones that are free and available in the system.
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    #5 17914753
    starob
    Level 29  
    Define the physical output controlling the lighting as type 46(logical product).
    Define two additional virtual outputs as BI switch and MONO switch triggered by the same input.
    Use these outputs to trigger the logical product defined earlier.
  • #6 17914891
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    starob wrote:
    Define the physical lighting control output as type 46(logical product).
    Define two additional virtual outputs as BI switch and MONO switch triggered by the same input.
    Use these outputs to trigger the logical product defined earlier.
    .

    This will not quite work as the author assumed, although it will also be usable with some inconvenience.
  • #7 17914915
    starob
    Level 29  
    kood wrote:
    This won't quite work as the author assumed, although it will also be usable with some inconvenience.


    You're right, it depends what turns the light off. I wouldn't have written at all but I didn't see that you had already replied.
  • #8 17915762
    mk761203
    Level 9  
    Hey, and why what @starob won't work the way I want? I just deduced this solution myself and now I don't know "why it's not that though" ;) Can you explain?
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    #9 17915805
    kood
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Switching on and off with the button will work ok, switching off with the timer too. But if the timer turns off the light you will have to click the button 2 times to turn it on because the BI output will be active, the first click will turn it off and only the second click will turn it on.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around integrating manual and automatic light switching functions within a home automation system using Integra. The user seeks a solution to enable lights to be turned on with a single press and off with a second press, while also allowing for automatic shut-off after a preset time (e.g., 5 minutes) if not manually turned off. Responses suggest utilizing virtual inputs and outputs to configure the system. Key configurations include setting outputs as "Switch Bi" and "Mono switch," and defining logical products to manage the light control effectively. However, concerns are raised about potential complications when the timer activates, which may require multiple button presses to turn the light back on.
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