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  • #603 18480309
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Instead of fucking Allegro Lokalnie the easiest way to go to OLX. After all, OLX is for locals, so why should you make another, similarly functioning website.
  • #604 18481616
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    Allegro, however, guarantees a lot more views and there is no (so much) dealing with customers. I don't like buying or selling on OLX. I will sell faster on Allegro and get a better price.

    If someone declares the shipment in 24 hours, it is good that he has 24 hours to confirm the shipment by entering the number of the consignment note / tracking number. I do not see anything inappropriate in this. I always gave 3 days ...
  • #605 18481739
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    OLX - it has the opinion it has (lots of scams), but it would be a piece of cake
    Searching on OLX does not exist, in principle, no allegro has it much better developed.
    The effectiveness of sales on OLX is very bad, I have exhibited there a few times and nothing, check it once, a smart "exchange" stuck to my phone, i.e. see point 1.
    Of course, they sometimes (but very rarely) come across the Allegro, of course you have to have a certain distance and, for example, do not go to great offers "..." of the so-called sun loungers or after the show.
  • #606 18481762
    Piottr242
    Level 23  
    max-bit wrote:
    The effectiveness of sales on OLX is very bad, I have exhibited there a few times and nothing, check it once, a smart "exchange" stuck to my phone, i.e. see point 1.

    I've never bought anything in my life or tried to sell through OLX or Gumtree before ... and I'm not going to change that.
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  • #608 18481901
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    My 3 previous items (quite expensive / fetch) went through olx and the interest was really high which I can't write about allegro - maybe it was the fuss around the allegro locally, I don't know.
    Personally, however, I think that it is easier to sell on olx because at least I put the price lower than on the allegro (commission).
    Well, I often have "great offers" :)

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    Oh, I will add.
    According to the statistics of my items, I had a much higher number of views on olx and it was easier to get a higher price for an item on olx than on the allegro.
    In fact, people from the Allegro wrote that we would make the transaction outside the Allegro because of the commission (often quite a bit).

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    tzok wrote:
    If someone declares the shipment in 24 hours, it is good that he has 24 hours to confirm the shipment by entering the number of the consignment note / tracking number

    This is the declared shipping time, not the declared time of entering the bill of lading number or the fact of the shipment.
    Before Christmas, many stores declared 24 hours (although they had 2 days before) to catch customers and ship them after a week.
    For me, this is a clear scam because the shipping factor in my case is of great importance.
  • #609 18481918
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    And this friend is incredibly lucky.
    Can you know what these items are? Not by chance the phones?
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  • #611 18482021
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    I have an attractive price rather than happiness :)
    And yes, telephones, for example, were going the fastest, the more so because they were flagship models, while the last 3 items were thermostats / electronic heads and a vacuum cleaner / robot.
    I always put an ad on olx and allegro and it looks better on olx in my case.

    Added after 10 [minutes]:

    Novile wrote:
    I sold the item on February 9, around 6pm (it was Sunday), the guy paid me with PayU. The cash on the account came out only on the 11th, and from that moment I have 24 hours

    You have 24 hours from the moment of payment and after all, it will be the next working day.
    If you were to explain this to me as a buyer, it would be negative. I am not interested when you withdraw money from PayU, it is important that the payment was made immediately and you have this information. Nothing personal, but sellers often interpret it in their own way. Why not give 48 hours or 3 days? Because sales will drop.
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  • #613 18482054
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Novile wrote:
    Before I pay, I check the visitor's details in google if a similar scammer has already relegated someone and the data is true

    They are, but you won't find it on google.
    Unfortunately, I did not receive the goods for a large sum and I checked the type before buying, and what?
    Nothing. Account number, zero data on the network, zero-address, tel-zero, name and surname-zero.
    He gave all the data true-he went to the element.
    The guy seemed very honest and yet he probably sold the item twice, probably he was already sitting for something similar.
    Opportunity makes a thief.
    And I don't consider myself less intelligent :)

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    Novile wrote:
    If I do not have money in my account (not in my hand), I do not send the goods because it is still mine.

    Correct payment by PayU is tantamount to concluding a purchase / sale contract, so the goods are mine and not yours.
    This money is immediately on your Allegro account, so the above is not justified, if only because you will withdraw (the machine) money or not after a day or several days - and what, the buyer has to wait?. You do not accept PayU conditions, write in the regulations so that they pay directly to your account.
    Both parties receive the PayU payment confirmation, so at this point the contract is concluded.
    And the machine works depending on its setting.
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    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    cichy koksik wrote:
    Before Christmas, many stores declared 24 hours (although they had 2 days before) to catch customers and ship them after a week.
    For me, this is a clear scam because the shipping factor in my case is of great importance.
    ... and that's why Allegro asks you to enter the shipment number ... then they can check (of course from the machine) if and when the shipment has been posted.

    Novile wrote:
    And here you are not right because I declare 24h, but there is one BUT. I declare these 24h not from the moment of sale, but from the moment of payment, when I receive it.
    You see, I declare 3-5 days and I have no problem, you declare 24h and you have a problem :) What do you need this for?

    cichy koksik wrote:
    If you explained this to me as a buyer, it would be negative. I don't care when you withdraw money from PayU, it's important that the payment was made immediately and you have this information. Nothing personal, but sellers often interpret it in their own way.
    I have exactly the same opinion. I paid, the cash register is secured and I see no reason to delay shipping, because the cash has not yet been credited to your account. Anyway, you can generate a bill of lading at any time ...

    Novile wrote:
    I will not even give you the money back because I do not have it, then go to PayU because they have your money in Poznań, not me.
    This is what PayU / PayPal is for, so that the customer does not have to deal with the seller. If the seller does not send in the declared time (or rather does not confirm it in the system), the customer can withdraw the cash ... The customer pays the cash to your PayU account, so he made and paid, the money is secured on Yours account in PayU. Simple and obvious to me. Aliexpress sellers do not get cash until the customer confirms the receipt of the parcel (if it is unregistered) or confirms the parcel tracking ... I wonder what you say. That way you would never send her ;)
  • #616 18482154
    ^ToM^
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    max-bit wrote:

    Searching on OLX basically does not exist ...


    Try putting the phrase between "". Then you will find what you are looking for. :)
  • #617 18482166
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    If it were still possible to pay for something with these funds on PayU or even pay the Allegro bill, it's okay. The allegroup shipping is bad, although here I do not know how it is with it, because I have never sent it like that. Also, not always someone has a shipping account on their account.
  • #618 18482207
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Novile wrote:
    But trading there is pure pleasure. When I put out something, I never give the phone to myself. Only contact by e-mail, I write it clearly in the description. Besides, I define the only payment method as payment in advance to my bank account. In general, I write everything in the description, I set the rules and they are. If someone does not suit him, he should not contact me. Besides, when he writes something to me, I can block him. I just make a filter for a potential buyer and if someone cares about the goods, he will write to me and a bream like "download" or "telephonists" like "leave half of it I will buy" .


    Apparently I am a bream, because when I buy on OLX I always bargain (why should I not bargain) and I buy often for a fraction of the price displayed.
    People don't always have an idea how much a given thing should cost. If someone insists on their price and I know that it is overpriced, I do not buy it and that's it.
    Also, when I put out my own, my prices are completely contractual. More than once, I have sold something for much less than I wanted. It all depends on the buyer and his gift to convince me that he should buy cheaper. :)
    Anyway, I also bargain on the Allegro. I write by means of a message that I can give as much and as much and often sellers agree to sell for a lower price, especially when the item is listed n times and no buyer is found. :)
  • #619 18482219
    cichy koksik
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    Novile wrote:
    and someone would punch him for it?

    Unreal :)
    Novile wrote:
    I have to get paid physically and you have to get the goods physically

    The money is physically on your Allegro account - I am not interested in anything else.
    Novile wrote:
    Recently, my bank was closed for 5 days and 90,000 people similar to me were told to screw up

    And you would wait with the shipment of the goods because your bank was closed and you did not pay the cash? Sorry, that's not my problem.
    ^ToM^ wrote:
    People don't always have an idea how much a given thing should cost

    It seems to me that they are only waiting for one who does not know how much a given thing should cost.
    ^ToM^ wrote:
    I write by message that I can give as much and as much, and often the sellers agree

    If it is a reasonable price, it is ok, but I often had that I put up goods for 2,000 (the market price is much higher) and someone proposes 1.5,000 and adds - I pay immediately. :)
    I drop them on the tree and that's it ...
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    cichy koksik
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    Novile wrote:
    Here the guests do not distinguish between basic things. I don't have an account in PayU, understand it one by one finally

    You accepted the terms of sale / allegro regulations / PayU, so that's the end of the topic for me.
    I will write more, if you sell the item together with the shipment for PLN 18, you will never send it because there will be no automatic payment to your bank account.
    Novile wrote:
    So do not write to me that the money is on my PayU or Allegro account.

    Because they are, go to the Your finances tab.
    What you do is inconsistent with the Allegro regulations and your interpretation of the shipping time is wrong.
  • #622 18482797
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    PayU is the broker, the client has paid and you know he did it. The customer fulfilled his obligation - clicked buy now / won the auction and transferred the money immediately. Therefore, he expects that you, as the seller, in accordance with your own and voluntary declaration, will send him the purchased goods within 24 hours from the moment of making the payment. There is nothing there about the broker handing over this donation to you or about your withdrawal of the money.

    Novile wrote:
    I do not have an account in PayU, understand it one by one finally.
    Unfortunately, you are wrong, as a user of the Allegro sales platform you have a PayU account ... and the fact that you do not have access to it (login / password) is your business.

    Brivido wrote:
    Also, not always someone has a shipping account on their account.
    ... no exaggeration, seriously.
  • #623 18483860
    nspd
    Level 12  
    Amazon enters Poland. There is competition (and it is good that it does), so the Allegro must also introduce various types of innovations, perhaps lowering prices. And it is good that it will.
  • #624 18484198
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    amazon ... it only enters, it cannot be entered.
    so does ebay
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  • #626 18484417
    zgierzman
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    Erbit wrote:
    max-bit wrote:
    amazon ... it only enters, it cannot be entered.
    ...


    Enter, enter -> Link to the map


    Except a warehouse, it still doesn't mean anything. Only when it is possible to buy Kindla humanly on amazon.pl, and get a VAT invoice for it, and not carve it through amazon.de, will it enter the market. For now it is the use of cheap labor, and that's it ...
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  • #628 18484497
    zgierzman
    Level 31  
    Erbit wrote:
    zgierzman wrote:
    .... Because so far it is the use of cheap labor, and that's it ...


    Of course. The German buys it, they bring it to Poland to pack it with cheap labor and send it back to Germany.


    This is exactly what is happening. Containers come to Poland, most probably from China. The German buys cheap labor, packs it, and ships it west. And also to Poland, but you have to buy at amazon.de. The first warehouses were built in Szczecin, Poznań and Wrocław to keep it close. The one near Łódź is just a story from the end of last year ...

    For several years now, TV and press have regularly featured articles on working conditions and pay in these magazines.
    Link first from the shore. Try to google something about Polish amazon. I guarantee you won't find anything. But there is a lot about Polish warehouses amazon. Or try to go to amazon.pl - I wonder if you can ...

    Or set up a store on amazon.co.uk - "Under the Sell on Amazon program, sellers can offer products on Amazon.co.uk and other European Amazon sites. If you sell online on Amazon, your products are easier to find and buy."
    There is no Polish service, you can probably connect to .uk or .de - pay in EUR, taxes will also go somewhere to the multitude's office ...
  • #629 18484661
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Zgierzman is right.
    A lot of companies in those regions operate on the basis of amazon, i.e. magines + cheap labor.
    The storage of products (warehouses) itself is also a huge cost, and there are also tax breaks that Polish companies do not have.
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    Anonymous
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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