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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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  • #661 18695966
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service
    Well, I'm sorry that this box is not, for example, from a passat where I will go 100km and pick it up in person. The normal seller takes the chest and returns the cash. And not that the "mechanic broke" which is impossible. I would like to add that the company sold me through OLX. I do not see any fault at my place. The fact that all scrap metal is pressed does not mean that we should ignore it and tell those who have been deceived that they are guilty of it themselves. Shopping with cash on delivery, what should you give? Do you open, test and use the inspection camera to check the purchased items at the courier?
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  • #662 18695973
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Krzysztof Kamienski wrote:
    and on Allegro I always buy in the "cash on delivery" option, from companies.

    What is the importance of the form of payment. After all, you have to pay for cash on delivery if there is a box in the papers, etc., the courier will not wait for you to check whether a given part works.
    For such smarts, it's just an allegro from companies with a warranty, for example, a boot.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    sylweksylwina wrote:
    The fact that all scrap metal is pressed does not mean that we should ignore it and tell those who have been deceived that they are guilty of it themselves.

    I fully agree with that.
    I remember when I reported extortion to the police (olx), a policeman told me morals about why he was buying there that I was also guilty.
    The reaction was quick - either you facio accept the report or the written refusal and keep the spiel to the scammer when you catch him.
  • #663 18696500
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    I bought an engine for Smart on the Allegro (regular) website, as the cost was PLN 1000 + shipping PLN 200, I made a delivery to the workshop. He arrived, gave a sign that they had picked up and that they would be installing it. After some time, a mechanic calls and the engine is probably in the water somewhere, either in PL or somewhere in Europe (it was not possible to repair it, it was not profitable because it was in worse condition than my broken one), it was supposed to be from Italy. The seller even agreed to collect it, but for PLN 500 (that would be enough to give me half the value) and shipping on my side, i.e. PLN 300 for me. The business of life ;) I left part of it.
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  • #664 18696636
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    ... so in these situations, I prefer to pay the repair shop to find and purchase parts. I will pay more, but the workshop takes responsibility for what and where it buys.
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  • #665 18696677
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    tzok wrote:
    ... so in these situations, I prefer to pay the repair shop to find and purchase parts. I will pay more, but the workshop takes responsibility for what and where it buys.


    Not every workshop takes such a risk, mine did not.
  • #666 18721574
    Adibo
    Level 10  
    I support Robin21ton
    I'm also an old man on the Allegro and I also think it's a shot in the foot. Allegro's strength and power lay in the fact that there were ordinary veterans who caused traffic and price competition. now it is the same portal as others. I know that I will not meet the opportunity there,

    I'll say more, I wrote an email to them (congratulations on finding the right address on the site now) about the search and its wrong operation, and about the policy. Short answer ... change of market and target policy ... so we corporyzujemy something Cool .. We've done it, the effect is probably bad because every now and then they improve things Locally. Personally, I do not go to Allegro for shopping anymore, I am looking for other routes and only after a few clues I go to check if they have it too.

    If I am not mistaken, 10% is like selling from Lokalnie on Allegro. If you set the range locally, there is no commission, but unfortunately no fun ;)
  • #667 18721771
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    For me, all this Locally is a total failure. To sell something by mail order, you still need an account on a traditional Allegro and PayU there. The only plus is that it is much easier to put something on Locally. This is probably made for people who are not comfortable with listing on Allegro.
    I used it twice. Both as sellers. Success once (personal pickup) and failure once (shipping)
  • #668 18723992
    ojciec
    Level 34  
    "A new way of calculating sales commission

    On June 1, we will launch a new method of calculating commission on sales on Allegro. We will also include the cost of delivery in the commission ... "

    So they figured out how to force allegro smart.


    Currently on local allegro ; transaction processing fees; Electronics 4.9% , the remaining 7.9% .

    allegro locally - there is no refund for the transaction service fee (such a commission) and, no matter what would happen; the goods were damaged during packing (I had such a forfeit), the buyers changed their mind, I do not want the goods, I want a refund (I can do it, but I don't have to). Then PayU does not work there, as on a normal allegro, you cannot refund part / whole money only via a refund transfer.
  • #669 18724042
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #670 18726116
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    I don't really understand what doesn't suit you.
    Nobody orders you to sell locally, after all, you have the existing sales form with PayU support.
    The second thing is charging the commission for the shipment - well, here you have to justify the allegro a bit and why? Because the Internet crooks issued the item for PLN 50 and the parcel for PLN 100 (example) in order not to pay a commission.
    Personally, I use olx and allegro - I will sell faster once on one portal, another time on another.
  • #671 18726561
    SZYMON BYDGOSZCZ
    Level 38  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    they put up an item for PLN 50 and a shipment for PLN 100 (example) in order not to pay a commission.


    I have submitted such auctions dozens of times and maybe they have removed them from 5 auctions.

    Check this out:

    https://allegro.pl/oferta/monitor-wyswietlacz-ekran-megane-iii-259156554r-9320337393

    https://allegro.pl/uzytkownik/Telefon66424422...ct-cl-eyesa2-engag-glob_base_5_4-uni-1-2-0522
  • #672 18726581
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Janusz won :)
    PLN 400 item
    1000 PLN shipping cost
  • #673 18726702
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #674 18726774
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    I once saw auctions with a cassette (CC), metal IV type for PLN 5 + shipping 80 PLN, supposedly from the USA ;) .
  • #675 18728182
    zgierzman
    Level 31  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    Janusz won :)
    PLN 400 item
    1000 PLN shipping cost


    I looked at several auctions, and personal collection was possible - 0 (say: zero) zlotys.

    Perhaps this is simply a way of discouraging mail-order buying, so as not to combine packing and shipping bulky, large and heavy items. Do you want to buy a car seat? OK, PLN 300 if you pick it up, and PLN 500 if you want shipping ... Fair for me ...
  • #677 18730490
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    zgierzman wrote:
    I looked at several auctions, and personal collection was possible - 0 (say: zero) zlotys.

    Well, I was looking at the first Nissan seat auction and only shipping for 1000 PLN was possible there.
    Hence my entry above.
  • #678 18733593
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Niko72 wrote:
    It was enough to introduce a solution, for example a script that checks if shipping costs are within "reasonable limits" and then do not charge a commission on shipping costs. Charging everyone with a commission on shipping costs, they treated everyone as potential frauds and hustlers.


    You can't help it. You will not "eradicate" business people otherwise. How can you be such a donkey to list an item for PLN 30 and want PLN 350 for shipping?

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    zgierzman wrote:
    Do you want to buy a car seat? OK, PLN 300 if you pick it up, and PLN 500 if you want shipping ... Fair for me. .


    As for me, it is not :)
    If that were the case, it would only offer pickup in person. Offering a shipment for a draconian fee is a scam - for me.
    I had a similar case once. There was a personal pickup, but when I wanted to send my courier for the goods (i.e. I would order a pickup by courier at my own expense), I would not agree. Do you understand any of this?
  • #679 18733832
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    ^ToM^ wrote:
    ...
    If that were the case, it would only offer pickup in person. Offering a shipment for a draconian fee is a scam - for me.
    I had a similar case once. There was a personal pickup, but when I wanted to send my courier for the goods (i.e. I would order a pickup by courier at my own expense), I would not agree. Do you understand any of this?

    If there is a personal pickup offer, you should also agree to pickup by a person indicated by you, e.g. a courier. If this stuff is not okay with you. If shipping at draconian prices and collection in person or a designated person is acceptable, then everything is OK. It can also be only shipping without the possibility of collection in person, and then also the lack of consent to collection by the indicated courier. And in this case, there is nothing to cling to. As he introduces commissions on shipping costs, the combinations with the price of the goods and shipping costs will end.
  • #680 18733918
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    If the courier takes it as it is, why not? The courier saw what he was taking, no further complaints.
  • #681 18733964
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    DiZMar wrote:
    As he introduces commissions on shipping costs, the combinations with the price of the goods and shipping costs will end.



    It's a pity, it's a shame they didn't do it 15 years ago.
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  • #682 18734117
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    A commission may be, why not. The price of shipments will probably increase slightly, or sellers will have to "tighten their belts" more. But I myself often gave a shipment much more expensive than I was able to, just because strapping parcels was not very convenient, especially for larger items. Or simply the fact that I much prefer someone to pick them up, see them, and that is why I give the goods a lower price than normal and road shipping, so that there is a greater chance that someone from the area will buy it.

    Of course, I am talking about the cases of "Sunday" sellers who do not run the seller's business ;)
  • #683 18734333
    jou300
    Level 13  
    Local Allegro is a good step forward but requires some serious corrections, because so far I do not see the difference between the regular and the local Allegro. Besides locally, it should be a ban on shipping and you have to come by yourself to get the goods.
  • #684 18734679
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #685 18734691
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    my41s wrote:
    jou300 wrote:
    Besides locally, it should be a ban on shipping and you have to come by yourself to get the goods.

    This is when we have the second OLX. At least come back - OLX shipments ... Admittedly, only phones,
    ...

    Through OLX I buy and sometimes sell mostly by mail order and not phones and not necessarily cash on delivery. Usually prepayment. Through our electrode forum, I also sell without seeing the goods (directly from the relevant seller, often foreign - delivery 2 working days from the order) and prepayment only. Do not imply that through OLX only pickup in person. The matter of reconciliation.
  • #686 18734779
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #687 18734791
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    my41s wrote:
    ... I did not use OLX shipments, but some time ago this option was only available for phones. Maybe something has changed now.

    And there is such a thing as OLX shipment ? I didn't know, so I didn't use it and I don't think I will. I don't know if there was something and something changed in this topic.
  • #689 18734879
    jou300
    Level 13  
    my41s wrote:
    jou300 wrote:
    Besides locally, it should be a ban on shipping and you have to come by yourself to get the goods.


    This is when we have the second OLX. Although come back - OLX shipments ... Only phones, but if locally, why shipments. Only personal collection can always be set on the Allegro.
    Anyway, OLX is theoretically local announcements and personal pickups, and when I got rid of unnecessary lumber from home, apart from furniture, everything went by mail order.


    OLX doesn't make sense to mix it up here. It is about the idea of the Allegro itself. Regular Allegro and new local Allegro. If there is shipping on both regular and local Allegro, the Allegro has created what is already there.
    So in two words: butter.
  • #690 18735037
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    ojciec wrote:
    DiZMar wrote:
    OLX shipment

    Link

    Thanks for the link, but I will not use it. Too complicated and only applies to phones.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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