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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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  • #751 18814745
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    The goal is simple is not to be an aftermarket (disadvantageous for the corporation)
    You have to buy new ones, use them for warranty, and dumpster!
    And since all this is in "THEIR" paws, they apply this plan scrupulously.

    But it's a breeze, they go on, not only will you not buy anything used, but nothing will be yours for a long time.
    You will rent everything and these are only advantages for "them" because "THEY" will have complete control over the goods sold.
    The first fire will be apartments and cars, and then telephones ...
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  • #753 18820261
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    ...
    So the profitability of shopping from larger stores on alledrogo may be questioned.

    After all, LOTTO is paying the buyer how much the seller pays. Valid amount to be paid. If it is too high, it will not buy everything. Looking for a cheaper offer, not necessarily on this portal. It does not matter whether from larger or smaller sellers. What is the size of the seller? Will it be profitable for smaller ones?
    PS.
    I still don't know what this is Productization that is from August 1 this year we will start to require that 1% of yours be product related . I have no idea what it is about and how to "tie" it with some (what?) Product and what this connection is about. Maybe when I display something, a new window will appear. What I have displayed I do not change and I do not have any stupid connections with the product.
  • #754 18820280
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    But the fact that Allegro is and is supposed to be a shot in the foot (only in the foot ...) and it is probably "developed", we have known for a year.
    The problem lies in the monopoly of this company and there is no indication that this will change.
    Allegro no longer resembles the original marketplace which has changed from a market to a sales market.
    If they would be .... a separate platform would be created (at most), but even the combination of the flea market and the Market did not bother anyone (well, allegro) because this is how I have everything in one place and it depends on me whether the buyer wants new used goods from a company or a private seller.

    Someone asks why ebay does not work, which also surprised me not long ago, and the answer is simple, the actual ownership lies in one hand (under other brands) so no one will shoot himself in the foot.
    Conspiracy theory ? Yes / No, but as Mr. Stanisław M. says, there are no cases, but there are signs.

    People have to buy rubbish, pay and cry, not play in selling unnecessary things, and absolutely not to repair. (just wait until it is forced to do so). Ie the purchase order, a paid throw (it just is) and the prohibition to repair. Anyway, products today are made in such a way that repair is simply not possible.

    Of course, all this is for our "good" that we remain silent and work faithfully for the Lord ...
    Latvia is such modern slavery of the 21st century.
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  • #759 18820750
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Niko72 wrote:
    DiZMar wrote:
    After all, LOTTO is paying the buyer how much the seller pays.
    Probably, if not immediately, prices will increase by an increase in commissions, so it will not be "flying" for the buyer. Another thing is that some sellers in the tab provide the company's contact details, without the mediation of "encrypted and censored e-mail" Allegro. So you can call the company, or write an e-mail directly and buy it outside the Allegro without their commission. Unless they remove the "about the seller" tab.

    It may turn out that with an increase in commission, the income from it will be lower. If the commission decreased, the income from it may be higher, as it was once when the excise duty on alcohol was reduced. It used to be like that. Alcohol excise duty has been reduced and excise duty income has increased. It was no longer worth buying from smuggling.
    Novile wrote:
    ... I myself, whenever I sell something on Allegro, I write how much I value in the description and I write unceremoniously that this includes a commission for Allegro, because Allegro is not free. If someone has at least a double-digit IQ, he will guess what to do if you want to buy it, and cheaper ...

    However, I find that the price on Allegro is often lower than at the same seller in his online or stationary store. In addition, Smart works on Allegro (free shipping) and the same seller in the online store already has to pay for the shipment. Such absurdities do not know why.
  • #760 18820943
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    DiZMar wrote:
    It may turn out that with an increase in commission, the income from it will be lower. If the commission decreased, the income from it may be higher, as it was once when the excise duty on alcohol was reduced. It used to be like that. Alcohol excise duty has been reduced and excise duty income has increased. It was no longer worth buying from smuggling.


    Why, JKM and the groups associated with him have been repeating this like a mantra for 30 years,
    the big red Leszek Miller himself checked it himself - it works!

    and what?
    and g..o!
  • #761 18820984
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    The commission is not excise duty, and Allegro does not have a monopoly on selling anything. They tell you, we do not want the Lord here, and you are still by force you want Be there. There is eBay, there is OLX, there is Allegro Lokalnie, there are groups on FB, but everyone wants to be on Allegro. I often don't want to look for things outside of Allegro, it's convenient for me to buy there and I don't mind that maybe I could buy something cheaper somewhere else ...
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  • #762 18821010
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    tzok wrote:
    P ... I often just don't want to look for things outside of Allegro, it's convenient for me to buy there and I don't mind that maybe I could buy a little cheaper somewhere else ... convenience costs money.

    On Allegro, usually, but not necessarily always the cheapest. Often, as I have already written, cheaper than at the same seller in his online or stationary store.
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  • #764 18821452
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Novile wrote:
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    Another email about the changes.
    https://allegro.pl/pomoc/aktualnosci/zniane-na-allegro-od-31-lipca-3GZWXDMAnSe
    In some cases, the commission will be really high ...
    Well, Allegro tries as best as possible to make ordinary Sellers sleep as quickly as possible ... and to the AL Ghetto. Here are some examples of new "amenities"
    So far, the commission is 5%.
    After the "good change" it will be 12%.
    Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?


    But according to Mr. Erbit, these are only conspiracy theories ...

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    Erbit wrote:
    max-bit wrote:
    But the fact that Allegro is locally and is supposed to be a shot in the foot ...
    People are supposed to buy ... not play in selling unnecessary things ...


    Beautiful conspiracy theories.

    You really cannot understand that the provisions regarding, for example, a return within 14 days apply to the relationship between entrepreneur -> consumer and not Kowalski -> Kowalski?

    There are a lot of other "problems" with natural persons who do not run a business, and not actually with them, but with regulations that do not apply to natural persons who do not run a business. Such a "seller" is a legal ulcer on ... and no one wants to serve one - when will you understand?


    But it's also Allegro somehow has ... these 14 days I catch myself to offer SMART buyers as a private person, but ... it automatically forces me to accept returns? How is Allegro above the law in Poland?
    Of course, I can refuse to accept it, but then the allegro prior to me because he finds that he is breaking their law.


    As for other allegro pathologies recently I see something price 2000 ok I am writing to the guy that I will give 1700 he OK but how am I a company?! I'm asking what?
    But why ?
    And because I won't be returning it to him. (specific product).
    It's me that I don't want to return it because it's not fun for me to buy something and return it ... and the guest then some arguments that they return him blah blah blah ...
    And so it hangs on to him.
    And the goods still hangs the question Damaged? And sell and forget? Well, but for 2,000 he sells with a return.
    Etc ...
    Allegro is a mass today: no comment history, no neutral. No ranking. In the past, it was all more transparent, probably the Allegro was always a place where there were those who did shafts. But today it has become nothing more than a supermarket where private individuals are evil to be plucked, not to buy and not kick.
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  • #766 18822328
    aleksander1963
    Level 13  
    As for other allegro pathologies recently I see something price 2000 ok I am writing to the guy that I will give 1700 he OK but how am I a company?! I'm asking what?
    But why ?
    And because I won't be returning it to him. (specific product).
    It's me that I don't want to return it because it's not fun for me to buy something and return it ... and the guest then some arguments that they return him blah blah blah ...
    And so it hangs on to him.
    And the goods still hangs the question Damaged? And sell and forget? Well, but for 2,000 he sells with a return.
    Etc ...


    This is not a pathology when selling weapons, because they bear the costs when the buyers return the goods.
    The specific product was sold by a friend for PLN 4,000, it was sent back with a description that it does not work as it should - the expert's opinion showed that the connection procedures went wrong.
    Allegro will not help here, so it does what it can
    After this lesson, he was cured of selling on all more expensive or specific goods
    Costs in court, so the nerves defend themselves against it as much as they can
  • #767 18822740
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    max-bit wrote:
    How is Allegro above the law in Poland?
    In what aspect? I don't see any contradiction to the law. The portal regulations may have stricter requirements for sellers than those defined by state law. There is no contradiction here. It would be contradictory if the law required to accept returns, and the portal prevents or forbid it.
  • #768 18840477
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    Can someone explain to me what's going on because I don't know anymore.
    Today I wanted to buy an mSata disk on TLC dice, so I entered the section: Allegro Electronics Computers Disks and portable memories SSD disks I selected the mSata disk format type of TLC memory chip and I had 42 pages of items, i.e. a SUPER huge amount of choice.
    But is it sure?
    What common denominator do you see? Example
  • #769 18840518
    pawelr98
    Level 39  
    Some Janusz sells the same SSD model for all device models he remembers.
  • #770 18840593
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    pawelr98 wrote:
    Some Janusz sells the same SSD model for all device models he remembers
    Exactly so, and it is common on Allegro. What's more funny, as soon as I see such Janusz, the pocket knife opens by itself in my pocket ... And as soon as there was such an option, I would add the seller to the black list. Only the problem would not solve it, because when searching, you would still see Janusz's auctions. Sometimes the seller adds the buyer to the black list because he dared to criticize the sell he trades in the comment and also in this case the auctions of the guy you can't buy anyway are visible. Such spamming of the subject, if I can call it that, is not a healthy competition, dude, 2,000 auctions will put up the same item, and the next seller only one and how to break through ....
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  • #773 18840906
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Unfortunately, this is a very frequent phenomenon of littering the auctions.
    One model sold under multiple names. They have tools for sellers where they put up thousands of auctions by automatic machines (they do not pay for listing) and thanks to this we have such a mess. But the Allegro is wonderful.
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  • #776 18849230
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    these are and only the EFFECTS OF THE MONOPOLY!
    Purposeful correlated and planned.
  • #777 18849236
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @ max-bit
    Allegro is also supposed to go public, it probably wants to tune the results.
  • #778 18849254
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    It is supposed to rain tomorrow. And where does this information come from?
  • #779 18849327
    Justyniunia
    Level 36  
    Malina Psikus Blackberry was talking on the TV.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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