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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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    Anonymous
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  • #843 19121141
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    For some time now, all e-mails have been "censored", maybe a company still has an e-mail address somewhere in the company's description, but usually all e-mails are already "encrypted" and go through the Allegro.
  • #844 19121205
    Anonymous
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  • #845 19121292
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Niko72 wrote:
    ... Some sellers also provide their NIP number, which is often enough to locate a company that has, for example, its own (not Allegro) online store where you can do shopping without Allegro.
    ...

    Only it often happens that in this company's online store it is more expensive than at their Allegro auctions. In stationary (if they have one) it is often even more expensive. Such commercial absurdities.
  • #846 19121365
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    I know the case from the other side, i.e. from the side of someone who sells through Allegro. When asked why Allegro has a short answer - "because I don't have to deal with customers, every reply to an e-mail is a waste of time for me, Allegro reduces customer contacts to a minimum". So big sellers like this arrangement. I know a few such people and even though I know them, they won't sell me anything except Allegro. I also prefer to buy in an Allegro store than through the store's own platform, especially if this is the first purchase in this store.

    Novile wrote:
    Do you think that when someone asks a question to the Seller, he is an idiot and although he cannot read, he can write?
    Yes, I think there are a lot of idiots and people who don't read descriptions but send e-mails. Definitely more people can write than read (with understanding).
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  • #847 19121825
    Anonymous
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  • #848 19121976
    zgierzman
    Level 31  
    tzok wrote:
    Novile wrote:
    Do you think that when someone asks a question to the Seller, he is an idiot and although he cannot read, he can write?
    Yes, I think there are a lot of idiots and people who don't read descriptions but send e-mails. Definitely more people can write than read (with understanding).


    I fully agree. Reading comprehension is as rare a skill as using reverse gear in a car. Apparently every driver passed the exam, but just look at the vehicles parked in front of the market.
    I don't sell anything, neither on the portal in question, nor elsewhere, but I have contact with clients. Mostly educated and wealthy. In their mass they resemble a herd of mindless sheep.

    In general, remote customer service by live people ceases to exist. Whether you call the hotline of a courier, car dealer or medical clinic, clicking through this answering machine is like playing a snake on old noki.
    E-mail addresses are also more and more often replaced by a chat with a robot or a form that goes somewhere in / dev / null

    Since, as mentioned, people are idiots, I understand this approach, but it really pisses me off. Especially if I have a problem that the bot or the answering machine cannot deal with.

    And as for Allegro: since it became a shop and not an auction portal, I buy a lot less here than I used to. Only in situations where the goods are not available elsewhere, or on the seller's own website, is it significantly more expensive than on all ...
  • #849 19122163
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    Novile wrote:
    And that's what I suspect, only I suspect that you work at Allegro, but maybe in which department? You've been defending these Allegro thieves with practically all your strength for a long time. Strange thing.
    Not only do I not work at Allegro, but even there I don't sell anything (if you want to know, I'm a scientist, I work at one of the state universities). But I buy a lot there. It is comfortable and I am willing to pay extra for it. However, I know people whose activity is 100% dependent on Allegro and they praise this platform very much. But they are not "savers", they earn several dozen zlotys on each item.

    When buying an item for PLN 500, I will not really be looking for PLN 10 savings. I prefer to choose a platform that verifies sellers and guarantees transaction security, rather than some online store that is there today and may not be there tomorrow. In addition, instead of searching hundreds of websites and stores, I compare dozens of offers in one place, with a relatively uniform description. I do not have to register in dozens of different stores, enter my data into often unreliable IT systems. I have convenient and secure payments.
  • #850 19122364
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    tzok wrote:


    When buying an item for PLN 500, I will not really be looking for PLN 10 savings. I prefer to choose a platform that verifies sellers and guarantees transaction security, rather than some online store that is there today and may not be there tomorrow. In addition, instead of searching hundreds of websites and stores, I compare dozens of offers in one place, with a relatively uniform description. I do not have to register in dozens of different stores, enter my data into often unreliable IT systems. I have convenient and secure payments.


    I am of the same opinion, especially in the era of cyclical hacking into IT systems of various companies. I prefer to give my Allegro data to 10 or even 100 other entities. In my opinion, Allegro will not fall and even the rebellion of small sellers will not do anything. An example from the last time, we were looking for a tablecloth for Christmas, we were in a few stores nowhere interesting or some poor China. I went to Allegro and we found a nice tablecloth from a Polish company from Poznań. We bought it and the next day it was with us because a parcel locker. I have a smart. What more do I need as a buyer?
    Unfortunately, times are changing, people no longer want to be flimsy or run for 10 groszy, because they have noticed that their time also costs. My mother-in-law will go for the promotion 4 tram stops, she will not go because the promotion does not make sense, it takes her 3 hours with shopping. save?, in her opinion yes, because she buys 1 kg of mushrooms cheaper by 2 zlotys. For me, not because in 3 hours I can do something that will give me more than PLN 10. A question of approach.
  • #851 19122439
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    I bought a battery charger in May, "recently" it broke and after contacting the seller I sent it back to him. Now, for 2-3 months, silence when I ask about it. Sometimes the machine will answer that they have accepted the message, sometimes the store will answer with a casual question so as not to speak after presenting the details.

    I do not know what other possibilities are, because on the Allegro I will probably not get back to such an old transaction, to which I have already commented.
  • #852 19130598
    pokmijn
    Level 11  
    Allegro is currently living in a socialist masturbation fantasy entitled "we still have a piece of the market, we need to milk" ... tele on the subject.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Brivido wrote:
    I bought a battery charger in May, "recently" it broke and after contacting the seller I sent it back to him. Now, for 2-3 months, silence when I ask about it. Sometimes the machine will answer that they have accepted the message, sometimes the store will answer with a casual question so as not to speak after presenting the details.

    I do not know what other possibilities are, because on the Allegro I will probably not get back to such an old transaction, to which I have already commented.


    I learned to pay by card - chargeback . A few hundred dollars have already returned to me from the insurance company. I recommend. It takes about 2-3 months but I can wait that long.
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  • #853 19130719
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    pokmijn wrote:

    I learned to pay by card - chargeback . A few hundred dollars have already returned to me from the insurance company. I recommend. It takes about 2-3 months but I can wait that long.


    Can you explain the topic in a few sentences? We also want to get a refund when someone fools us. This chargeback is probably return from the card insurance?
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  • #854 19130966
    pokmijn
    Level 11  
    You submit a complaint to the bank that the merchant, i.e. the seller, has not complied with the terms of the contract. In my case, it was a non-delivery of the goods and the main reason for which I was granted a refund was that the seller has a gmail account, which is not very reliable. For this the fact of failure to provide ktowaru and no contact on his part. On your part, there may be no response to the complaint, it depends, each bank has a different approach to it. How do you have a problem with the bank, you advertise your cards - MC, V? I don't know what you got there. Let me put it this way, banks from "mature" countries do it right away, read it in 2-3 months, I don't know with us, I don't cooperate with the Polish banking system when I don't have to.

    IMPORTANT - prepare full documentation - e-mails, scans, all kinds of written documentation that can be verified - it will make it much easier.
  • #855 19131545
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    pokmijn wrote:
    You submit a complaint to the bank that the merchant, i.e. the seller, has not complied with the terms of the contract. In my case, it was a non-delivery of the goods and the main reason for which I was granted a refund was that the seller has a gmail account, which is not very reliable. For this the fact of failure to provide ktowaru and no contact on his part. On your part, there may be no response to the complaint, it depends, each bank has a different approach to it. How do you have a problem with the bank, you advertise your cards - MC, V? I don't know what you got there. Let me put it this way, banks from "mature" countries do it right away, read it in 2-3 months, I don't know with us, I don't cooperate with the Polish banking system when I don't have to.

    IMPORTANT - prepare full documentation - e-mails, scans, all kinds of written documentation that can be verified - it will make it much easier.


    Thanks for the serious clarification. Honestly speaking, I always thought that in such situations there is no option for banks to obtain a refund of the amount paid.
  • #856 19132518
    pokmijn
    Level 11  
    There is, the condition - you must pay by card. Do not blik, not transfer - by card (i.e. swipe the card through the terminal, pay contactlessly or in the Internet enter the card number, expiry date and code [this short 3-letter] and when contacting the bank clearly indicate that you are doing chargeback, not that you want / you are wondering / if you could ... as it always irritated me, asking if I can ... and then the bank will of course say no.
  • #857 19260660
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    Oh note, there will be a new option. 3.99 fee for collection in person. :D :D :D :D

    The circus is not over, I don't know who is making it up. :D If it goes on like this, there will be a daily auction maintenance fee and 100% shipping commission, why not. ;)
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  • #859 19261158
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    On local too? Because I got this e-mail from a normal one.
  • #860 19261632
    Janusz_kk
    Level 39  
    Niko72 wrote:
    Not so much for personal collection as for payment on delivery. They just want our cash right away.

    After all, at the courier, if you choose payment on delivery, you also pay extra, here they just finished the promotion and that's it.
    Just like buying without having an account.
  • #861 19263315
    E8600
    Level 41  
    It is annoying to separate the ratings about the product and the ratings about the seller. As a result, many substantive product reviews go to the seller's ratings that hardly anyone looks at.
  • #862 19431735
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Is there any way to change the title of the listing on relaunch without losing your selling grade?
    An overzealous employee closed an offer for me, which has been available for six months and already has some positioning. Upon contact, he wrote back that the title might be misleading.
    Only positive ratings from buyers rating 5.00.
    They are increasingly discouraging from selling on this site.

    Update.
    Managed to change the title while maintaining the statistics when resuming the auction. Apparently, they had to unlock it because I know that it was once not possible in offers where at least 1 item was sold.
  • #863 19431822
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    And you can't resume with the same name and change the name?
  • #864 19431852
    E8600
    Level 41  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    And you can't resume with the same name and change the name?

    After selling at least 1 item, the title is blocked and you can only change the description and photos (at least until recently it was so).
    Fortunately, it managed to change the title when the offer was resumed by the administration.
    The question is, if we finish the offer with purchase offers ourselves, will it also be possible to change the title?

    It does not change the fact that they mix on this site, which can only discourage you.
  • #865 19431878
    Justyniunia
    Level 36  
    Does Smart apply locally on Allegro?
  • #866 19431904
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    As far as I know, there is no Smart locally on the Allegro.
  • #867 19431917
    Justyniunia
    Level 36  
    Now watch!
    You have something to sell that costs PLN 75 in the store.
    You have a new one, not used, but without a guarantee, because as a private one you do not issue a receipt, nothing ...
    How much will you sell on the allegro locally?
  • #868 19431945
    cysiekw
    Level 42  
    Justyniunia wrote:
    How much will you sell on the allegro locally?
    35-40
  • #869 19431968
    Justyniunia
    Level 36  
    Exactly. Will you issue too much? It's a pity, isn't it?
    Normally someone would buy and for 60, but if he has to add 12.99 for shipping, he would rather add 15 and have a new one with a guarantee ...
    It looks like getting rid of all small sellers. First they were divided into companies and private ones, now they are slowly destroying private ones.

    I am writing from the buyer's perspective.

    A real example - I am making a queue for my son.
    A turnout in the store costs PLN 75, many people have such unused turnouts for sale.
    They bought it for a mock-up, there are a few left, they want to resell.
    I would like to buy even ten cheaper, but it does not pay me off.
    It is not profitable for the seller to post it again for PLN 30 or PLN 40
  • #870 19432038
    E8600
    Level 41  
    That is why it is not profitable to put up on an allegro locally and on an ordinary allegro. Surprisingly, not everyone has smart purchased and there are people willing to pay for shipping, so it is worth posting shares with the term "until the end of products" even with only 1 item.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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