Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

msquidpl wrote:

Has anyone used a Customer Service Center on Allegro Lokalnie?

I. In 3 days, I had my entire cashback refunded and the seller was blocked. Of course, a week-long dispute earlier and proving to the seller that such damage must have happened earlier and did not arise in transport - as he fiercely claimed.

When shopping on aliexpress, I learned how to record a video when I open the package. Without a CSC, you are ALWAYS entitled to a warranty if someone does not exclude it.

So far I have bought on Allegro Lokalnie several times and only one guest did not send a parcel for a week, saying every day that he would "send today". When he stopped answering phone calls, I raised a dispute. After Allegro's intervention, the gentleman wrote back that he would pay the money "today". After a few more "today" I reported the matter to the Customer Service Center and after 2 days the money on my account (probably up to a week or two without smart). Not what it used to be - settling the matter at the police, sending proof of registration, waiting for court cases :D

Novile wrote:

Buy such things "only new with a receipt". None used, because these are already overheated and when someone gets rid of, they only sell the problem to the sucker.

Not always. If it is a few years old non-top card, then someone is probably just buying a new one. I would beware of top cards sold after a year / two due to the risk you are talking about. Especially now, when it is not easy to buy them.

Oh there, my 290X has been working for 7 years, soon it will be 8, and it will be a post-excavator one bought in 2014. Except that the 290X was released at the end of 2013 and these cards were not used up at the time of the crash.

The problem is, however, that there are no new cards, cosmic prices and the availability rather poor (at "better" prices, not those from the ceiling). Such advice "buy new" can be put between fairy tales.

Novile wrote:

, paste even as it is, it has long hardened to the stone and is no longer a paste, but even plaster

Novile wrote:

In addition, often dust on the heat sinks and the windmills almost obliterated.

Nothing that could not be replaced cheaply. Laptop systems have higher loads because there not only is high temperature (much higher than on the GPU!) But also mechanical stresses, drastic temperature changes (laptop in a bag outside, in winter and going to a warm interior), switching on and off the power supply. And the card (even in the excavator) just stands and works.

And so to be precise, some "pastes" (TIM) already come out of the factory. It depends on its type. Hard pastes retain their properties longer - see e.g. TIM under IHS at Intel ...

Allow me to resuscitate the topic, the changes now being introduced definitively end the era of private user sales on allegro non-locally.

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Anticipating questions, the list of "protected brands" is so extensive that it disqualifies most things

Let's light a candle to the portal. The only part left is the part where there is not even a rating system.... I will have fond memories of the allegro.co.uk portal, it used to be nice to collect only positives that stayed with us for many years building a reputation.

Everything ends one day, that's the way it goes.

Allegro has turned into a trading platform for companies. That is why they are getting rid of private sellers, especially in sensitive categories such as branded clothing. If a company sells counterfeit clothing, they will be held responsible if anything goes wrong. These provisions only apply to items that are 'New', put up by private individuals. What is wrong with flipping these types of listings to Allegro Locally?

Every change made to this portal has been increasingly annoying and 'sick'. I recently got a warning for using the phrase "scrap, gold, salvage" in the title of an auction where I put up several kilos of RAM for salvage. It turned out that I had violated the Terms and Conditions. I was taken off balance by giving an EAN code - I used to sell used equipment of all sorts and periods of manufacture when there was no such designation so a fiction was created - I would select something similar and in the description state what was being auctioned. Now that the list of protected brands has been introduced, I won't be able to sell, for example, used Panasonic products - a camcorder, TV, recorder or home cinema....
On Allegro Locally, sales are going thinly because people have concerns about the honesty of the seller and the ability to advertise the purchased item.
I also have an eBay and OLX account, I think that's where I'll be forced to move with the clunkers ... The billionaires, the owners of Allegro, will not lose anything by getting rid of private sellers, they will raise the commission on Local and instead of taking a fixed unit fee of 1,- zł they will do e.g. 3,- zł and they will make money under the cork. They have already calculated it well for themselves....

Hello

krakarak wrote:

Each change made to this site has been increasingly annoying and "sick". I recently received a warning for using the phrase "scrap, gold, salvage" in the title of an auction where I had listed several kilos of RAM for salvage. It turned out that I had violated the Terms and Conditions.

Presumably this was considered waste, and trade in this in the EU is reserved for licensed operators.

speedy9 wrote:

What's wrong with flipping these types of listings to Allegro Locally?

In my opinion, the buyer will see it that way:

- I buy on Allegro == I buy in a "box" in a gallery with air conditioning
- I buy locally == I buy at a crooked stall under a market hall from a nervously looking vendor

speedy9 wrote:

These provisions apply only to items that are "New", issued by private individuals.

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If such an item is sold by a private individual without a warranty/guarantee and a receipt or other proof of sale then it cannot be classified as , "new".
At most "unused" 😀 .

And locally there may be a new

If the eventual buyer accepts this interpretation then.... difficult 😇

This is mutually exclusive, but there is a formula that states that any return can only be made after agreement with the seller, and there is an option to mark the item as new when placing the auction.

I recently took part in an auction on allegrolocal, where the seller had set up a bidding war. I thought that just like in the good old days of allegro - I would enter the page, enter the amount and a second before the end of the auction I would click `bid`. Well, that didn't work out.
First of all, the amount you enter is not the MAXIMUM amount that the Allegro automatic bidding machine will offer for you, but EXACTLY the amount you are going to offer (there is no automatic bidding mechanism).
Second - if you bid an amount one minute before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended by 5 minutes.
Third - there are some unofficial bots that bid for you.

As a result, I sat the auction ended at 17:40, the price was 24 PLN. I offered 1 zloty higher, there was another `willing bidder` who was also beating me by a zloty. I had the impression that it was a bot, because exactly 3 seconds after each of my bids, he raised the price. As a result, after these extensions, the auction ended at 19:40 with the price of 130 PLN, of course, I did not win it because I did not want to fight with the bot anymore.

Recently I had a similar auction on AL, the seller set the starting price at 150zl, then before the end he started bidding , bot or man by 50zl, it stood at 300, at the end I gave 301 and bought. He could have given the 300 as the starting price right away, not such games, waste of time.

phanick wrote:

Recently I took part in an auction on allegrolocal where the seller had set up the bidding. I thought that just like in the good old days of allegro - I will enter the page, enter the amount and a second before the end of the auction I will click `bid`. But then out of the blue.
First of all - the amount you enter is not the MAXIMUM amount that the Allegro automatic bidding machine will offer for you, it is EXACTLY the amount you are going to offer (there is no automatic bidding mechanism).
Second - if you bid an amount one minute before the end of the auction, the auction will be extended by 5 minutes.
Third - there are some unofficial bots that bid for you.

As a result, I sat the auction ended at 17:40, the price was 24zl. I offered 1 zloty higher, there was another `willing bidder`, who also beat me by a zloty. I had the impression that it was a bot, because exactly 3 seconds after each of my bids, he raised the price. As a result, after these extensions the auction ended at 19:40, with the price of 130zl, although I did not win it, because I no longer wanted to fight with the bot .

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1. the rules are carefully described in the terms and conditions, which you have read before creating or confirming your account.
2) You are not wrestling with a bot but with another local alleger. You overbid his amount (just 1-2 PLN ) and he overbids your amount - as long as he feels like paying even more.
A few days ago I managed to win such an auction after 2 attempts. In the end, the adversary let go and my amount stayed ( or he got confused and didn't notice - this is also a possibility). I raise the bid of others at 1:05, so that if there are no more bidders, the automatic bidding machine no longer extends the auction by 5 minutes.
In my opinion this works as it should. But this is an auction. How much you bid, you buy - as long as there are no others willing to offer more.
So here's the thing - if something is listed for 100 PLN, there's no point in hitting 130 PLN just 102 PLN. Why overpay. Another willing bidder may not be found.
Yesterday I took part in an auction where one of the bidders did not know the rules and overbid himself. First it was £100, I bid £102 and waited until suddenly it was £130 and in a moment it was £150. Where there were still two bidders (because it is displayed under the price how many bidders there are and how many raises there were). I let it go, because the goods were not worth 150 PLN.
When you place a bid on a local Allegro auction, you do not conclude a purchase agreement and you have the right not to pay for the auctioned item. Then the machine will resume the auction after a few days. Such rules are established in the regulations - if nothing has changed.

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CodeBoy wrote:

Recently I had a similar auction on AL, the seller set the starting price at 150zl, then before the end he started bidding, bot or man by 50zl, it stood at 300, at the end I gave 301 and bought. Could have given the 300 at once as an asking and not such games, a waste of time.

Not a bot, but a human. People are so stupid that they do not read the rules of the auction and they overbid and fight themselves!
There is a starting amount of 100 zloty and they enter e.g. 150 zloty. Then 150 zlotys appear and a moment later the same person, for reasons known only to him/herself, for example, 1 minute before the end of the auction, raises another 20 zlotys and the amount of 170 zlotys appears.

I usually raise by 2 PLN and if there are no takers then the starting amount of +2 PLN ends.

On allegro locally you can place multiple bids yourself, even if no-one else is bidding! So you can first bid 120 PLN and a moment later raise it to 150 PLN and two minutes later to 1000 PLN. There is no such prohibition. If someone doesn't know about it, they can raise themselves in this way.

I hope this bit of information will be useful to someone, although it is described in the regulations.

^ToM^ wrote:

You are not wrestling with a bot just another local allegro.

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Man 80 times in 2 hours punched exactly always 3 seconds after my bid? If he had waited 30 seconds at least once, a minute, but no - always exactly 3 seconds.

phanick wrote:

^ToM^ wrote:

You don't wrestle with a bot just another local alleger.

Man 80 times in 2 hours punched exactly always 3 seconds after my bid? If he had waited 30 seconds at least once, a minute, but no - always exactly 3 seconds.

Yes, man (whether or not he uses a bot of some kind is beside the point). It is impossible to understand some people. I have also observed similar drives myself. I myself do not participate in such cribs. If I see that someone is so stupid that he or she is bidding on their own, I ignore the auction.

I have already mastered Allegro locally and often use it. Sometimes there are no takers, so the bidding ends only with my offer.
If there is something I really want, I write to the seller in the chat room and set a price. He sets the price, I click, he finishes the auction, I pay and that's it.
This is the way I like it best, because bidding is tiring and time-consuming, although it is usually cheaper than buying outside the auction. But something, for something.

I once listed tyres on this allegro locally and got a message that a user had bought them. And I was supposed to enter the transfer details there. But after checking in the classifieds, it turned out that no one had bought these tyres and the type was a scammer. At first glance it looked normal, because I even got an email from allegro.

kalmia212 wrote:

At first glance it looked normal, because I even got an email from allegro.

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And how can you be sure it was from Allegro?

@sylveksylvina how do you assess the change in retrospect (it's been 5 years!)?

A lot has changed in these 5 years....
Currently with allegro locally - entrepreneurs are being kicked out. Allegro in general is going into strategies to completely separate these platforms.

Allegro itself has gone the way of, for example, Amazon - that is, offering goods from multiple sellers. Only that with this rather poor product catalogue and poor matching by some sellers - there is now quite a mess on Allegro itself. It hasn't been this bad before in my opinion. Looking for anything in particular gets tiresome. Especially with second-hand stuff, where you can't always have products with EAN codes etc etc etc.

Allegro search engine doesn't search on Allegro locally anymore - i.e. it only shows 1 result from allegro locally and a button "see all" or something like that with redirection to search on allegro locally, suddenly it turns out that we have e.g. 15 listings and not 1.

On Allegro locally itself, there is still no rating system. This is a huge disadvantage, because at one time you could take care of your credibility as a private seller and verify private sellers as buyers.

The messaging system on the regular Allegro practically asks us double each time we try to write a message whether to send via the super hopeless bot - an embarrassment.



Personally, I find all the changes very bad. They got rid of most of the advantages of the portal for private sellers, leaving them in the regular Allegro - for companies. They created a new portal "locally" for private sellers with minimal improvements and functionalities.
In the end, Allegro was transformed into some kind of "allegro marketplace".

Honestly? They could have left allegro from 10 years ago as it was for private sellers and created a "marketplace" from scratch. What they have done looks like they have taken it completely the wrong way.

For me, it is a great pity that we have lost the "old Allegro", it was something that really worked out for the Poles, but on its success grew a huge "corpo" in which private sellers simply became a burden and something unnecessary, and you cannot forget that it is on private sales that this portal developed.

Currently, the only major competitor (for allegro locally) is olx, which is "learning" into a buyer protection system, and it is well known how it looks like - there is no shortage of fraudsters there. At least it is now possible to report a problem with a purchase, not only when you get an empty carton or a potato instead of, say, a PC. And there are "smiley faces" with ratings of sellers - they can suggest who we are dealing with. This is what OLX does better than allegro locally...

In summary, I very much dislike the trend where:
-makes it difficult for buyers to verify private sellers,
-generally it is difficult to sell private things to private persons, even putting up 35 clothes of yourself or your child for 10 PLN ends up with the fact that you have to explain to the tax office that you had these items for more than 6 months (yes, I know it does not depend on the sales platform)
-and last but not least, even though I have highlighted the disadvantages of the portal for me, a private seller, I believe that it makes it more difficult for companies to sell used items. Companies will be banned from selling on allegro locally, or already have. And to sell something on allegro you need a so-called "product". For older items, components or anything without model designations, manufacturer, EAN code, etc., sellers will now have a problem - and that doesn't sit well with me either, because in the end everyone will lose out.
The problem will also be an increasing share of vendor positioning on regular Allegro, by grouping bids from sellers and showing the 'suggested bid' of each item according to some algorithm. This is also poor in my understanding of the subject.

Respect sylweksylwin, a well-written honest assessment of this platform. I, too, as a private person, have been selling used items there for many years, almost since the beginning of Allegro. And with the successive changes, what I thought was working well was being spoiled more and more. The laborious introduction of the so-called "catalogue" by the sellers drove me crazy. It was my responsibility to find the EAN code somewhere on the Internet and link it to the item on sale. Then Allegro took ownership of this combination and demanded that subsequent sellers "link it to a product from the catalogue". Embarrassing... In my opinion, it is completely illegal to charge a commission on the amount related to the shipping cost. DPD, for example, estimates the cost of parcel delivery at PLN 25 and I have to pay Allegro a fee on that amount. The next illegal step - creating a list of "protected" brands, which I, as a private seller, have no right to offer for sale on their platform! Fuck, what right does anyone have to prohibit me from selling a device from, say, AEG, Apple, Blaupunkt or hundreds of others! I bought, used and want to resell, but Allegro doesn't allow it! Imagine the same rules restricting the entry of a car into a car exchange - "You are not allowed to enter here and sell your AUDI car. This exchange is only for dealers of this company".
A cretinous argument about protecting the buyer and the manufacturers from the sale of counterfeits. Now, the EU has added its own legal tripe with the restriction of tax-free sales to a maximum of 30 items or 2,000 euros. How does this fit in with the "giving second life to second-hand goods" crap...?
I waste my health and nerves on these bans, orders, restrictions, obligations. I do not sell there. I don't sell anywhere. It only hurts my heart to look at the mountains of electronic equipment that will end up in crushers or ovens instead of making someone happy without spending mountains of money in a shop ....

A few days ago, AliExpress announced that it warmly welcomes Polish sellers to its platform. Included is no account opening/closing fees or no commission for the first 160 days. I am curious to see if and how Allegro will react to this.

A different platform therefore needs to be created. A normal one. You can make a platform combined with non-mail order sales also. For example, such local advertisements, but the meeting place would be a local exchange, a bazaar or something like that. And in this one place people would exchange items. Normally for cash. After the announcement, the owner of the item would reserve it for the customer in question. Sort of a throwback to the old days.

Sounds like OLX .

hindoos wrote:

Sounds like OLX

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Yes but combined with an exchange at specific places and times.