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Experiences with the Fibaro system in building automation - compatibility with KNX, Satel

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  • #1 19005177
    Gitarzysta93
    Level 8  
    Hello,
    I am preparing to write my master's thesis related to building automation for a single-family house, in which I would like to include topics related to the design and implementation of such a solution for a specific system available on the market. I have tentatively chosen the fibaro system and would like to ask you what your experience with this system is, whether you recommend it and whether it is compatible with other systems such as KNX or Satel (alarm system). I would also like to ask whether you have any literature related to this subject, which is based on the Fibaro system?

    Thanks for your help.
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  • #2 19026298
    Daro1003
    Level 33  
    You are preparing to write your MA thesis on home automation and you have chosen the Fibaro system, but you don't really know whether it is compatible with KNX and Satel - well, that's a bit weak, buddy, because you want to write your MA thesis and you have no idea about systems, so what are you going to write?
    But ok, I think you should go somewhere for a product training on Fibaro and a workshop on the installation of this system to get some basics.

    Personally, I am building the whole home automation system myself on my own house construction. I base everything on Domoticz which runs on a Raspberry single board computer with an SSD drive. The actuators are Sonoffs 4CH 20pcs and Schelly 2,5 for the roller shutters. I loaded AFE software into the Sonoff 4ch.

    This system costs me something in the region of £1,500-2,000 so, compared to Fibaro, you can decide for yourself whether it's worth spending nights and evenings soldering, uploading softwares, etc.
    In my opinion, such an essay on Fibaro can be written by any electrician who is familiar with the subject of intelligent buildings. It is not a matter of putting ready-made blocks together, but of building your own system, assembling its elements, providing appropriate power and cooling, testing and correcting it.
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  • #3 19060092
    arsu
    Level 8  
    For your thesis you will need a historical sketch so here is a link to a discussion between the co-founder of Fibaro and a certain opponent, whose identity I will not reveal. I will add that the HC1 or Fibaro prototype HC3 was a clone of a device made by Mi Casa Verde based on a Chinese AP motherboard with a hand-soldered z-wave module made by Sigma Designs.
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2108414.html#10042237
    Terribly little is required of you in your studies now!!!?
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  • #4 19061149
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    In my opinion Fibaro is not a good choice for a topic for a paper - unless you want to copy from leaflets, which is more marketing material than technical. If you already want to write about this system then an installer course would be useful - it's hard to get valuable technical information otherwise.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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  • #5 19404578
    Gitarzysta93
    Level 8  
    So yes, as colleague "sk1977" mentioned Fibaro is not a good idea for a thesis choice. Personally, I tried to find useful information and tips on the implementation of this type of system and, unfortunately, I did not find anything useful apart from marketing, so I changed the intelligent building system to the Grenton system, for which there is a lot of documentation available for each module, instructions on how to use the Object manager program and, in fact, in order to initially get acquainted with this system - the videos from the "Grenton Academy" series are very helpful. - It seems to me that the system gives you really a lot of possibilities and the fact that it can work in a Z-Wave network through a Mesh topology as well as a wired one - so in my opinion it seems to be more reliable than Fibaro, which can only work in a wireless network.
  • #6 19459116
    arsu
    Level 8  
    I don't know who or what is driving the choice of work topic but your new idea is not very fortuitous given that Grenton has been out of development for about 3 years. It then introduced Grenton2 which is a new Common Logic Unit with higher supply and control voltages (rightly so) but incompatible with the older actuators from the Grenton 1 model. Z-wave is supported to a basic degree (preferably their own manufacture) and third party devices not necessarily. Despite good technical support and good tutorials, the system itself is not very open to external integrations or even airtight, which makes it impossible to expand due to the limited number of in-house functionalities and the last interesting novelty, the smart panel, is already four years old. To sum up, choose a more ambitious topic that will bring an element of innovation or even revolution in home automation and will interest the community and enthusiasts.
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