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Flat automation: Siemens Logo8, S7-1200 controllers or FIBARO systems?

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  • #1 19126507
    jarecki1989
    Level 24  
    Hi,

    I'm just at the stage of buying a development flat and would like to automate it a bit. Initially, I wanted to write the program myself and use a Siemens Logo8 or S7-1200 controller for this, but I am increasingly inclined to use a dedicated system.

    What I would like to achieve:

    1. automatic roller shutters
    2. air-conditioning control,
    3. control of central heating
    4. lighting control,
    5. maybe one electronic door lock - to lock the door when I go out somewhere for 30 minutes ;) .
    6. controllable sockets,

    I was wondering whether to do a wired or wireless system - what are your suggestions on this ?
    I have tentatively looked at FIBARO products - but I am a layman on the subject, maybe you can suggest something ?

    I will be doing the installation myself.
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  • #2 19126546
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    You give very little detail.
    If you want to program then maybe Home Assistant - you will be able to choose what you want from different systems - and the choice is very large, as is the price range.
    If you want to choose a system - think about what exactly you want and whether that will be available on a particular system and have the functionality you expect.
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  • #3 19126905
    jarecki1989
    Level 24  
    Few details because I am not yet well acquainted and do not know what is relevant.
    I am just reading ;) .

    As a start, I would definitely like someone to help me choose between a wired or wireless system.
    I am concerned about the batteries in the wireless systems - is it not necessary to replace them frequently ?
    I already have a Netatmo weather station and the batteries in the external temperature sensor die non-stop, especially now in winter.

    As I've already pointed out it's a flat so distances are small as it's 67m^2, if I were to lay cables it's only now.
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  • #4 19126955
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    Compare the prices of wired and wireless systems - perhaps this will resolve the issue already.
    As they say "the devil is in the detail". - if there are details then a lot of possible options may already be eliminated.
    Simple control of lighting, roller blinds, central heating or sockets - this can even be implemented on a control panel. If you want voice control - at the moment this practically forces the use of the cloud. On the other hand, it allows you to connect devices from different manufacturers (e.g. routers in Amazon Alexa) or Google Home. Controlling "purely locally" also has its advantages. If you wish, you can put together whatever you need from the components yourself.
    There are also systems such as Greenton or Fibaro - you can check what they offer and how much it will cost.

    As far as batteries are concerned - if it's wireless, it's more likely to be Zigbee - battery-powered devices should work for at least 2 years on a single battery. Theoretically.
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  • #5 19131942
    domsat
    Level 20  
    Subject author - what do you understand by these terms:
    1. automatic roller shutters
    2. air-conditioning control
    3. central heating control
    4. lighting control,
    5. maybe one electronic door lock - to lock the door when I go out somewhere for 30 minutes ;) .
    6 Controlled sockets,
    My question is not ironic, but what do you think roller shutter automation is about?
    Once you know this then it is easier to select the components.
    By the way - your flat is rather small and a serious ID system is an excess of form over substance.
  • #6 19159200
    GanzConrad
    Level 25  
    Take a look at Fibaro, which will take care of the following for you right away:

    jarecki1989 wrote:
    1. Automatic roller shutters
    2. air-conditioning control,
    3. CO control,
    4. lighting control,
    6. Controlled sockets,
    .

    Re 3: thermostatic heads or valves on the manifold for the floor? - You can manage both, but for the valves you need one relay switch for 2 valves

    jarecki1989 wrote:
    5. Maybe a single electronic door lock - to lock the door when I go out somewhere for 30 minutes
    .
    I haven't done this yet - need to look for it

    Fibaro has one disadvantage: the price of the control panel, but the advantage is that you are free to develop the system and add more blocks as you like.
    Battery-powered devices are scarce (they won't be in any of the above).

    As for lighting: there is a nice control for traditional incandescent bulbs and a nice control for 12/24V led strips, as for LED bulbs - poor, but this is probably true for all other solutions.
  • #7 19207524
    arekkrasnal
    Level 20  
    Good morning everyone.
    Zamel Exta Life is an interesting solution.
    I personally installed it in a house (over 120m with an inhabited attic), it still works today, only new controllers buy and expand the system. The control centre is a tablet stuck to the wall in the living room in case someone is far from the phone.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the automation of a development flat, focusing on the choice between Siemens Logo8, S7-1200 controllers, and FIBARO systems. The user aims to automate features such as roller shutters, air-conditioning, central heating, lighting, an electronic door lock, and controllable sockets. There is a debate on whether to implement a wired or wireless system, with concerns about battery life in wireless devices. Suggestions include exploring Home Assistant for programming flexibility, comparing costs of wired versus wireless systems, and considering the capabilities of FIBARO products, which allow for gradual system expansion despite higher initial costs. Other systems like Zamel Exta Life are also mentioned as viable options.
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