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How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?

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  • How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    Hello. I will present a simple repair of a smart device (in this case, the smart WiFi relay ZN268131) which after some time began to emit a quite loud and clearly audible operating sound at night. The sound was not uniform, more intermittent, and the standby LED flashed slightly to its rhythm, although the device still seemed to be working properly.
    What could have gone wrong after only a month after purchase ? Let`s check!

    Hero of the topic
    I described ZN268131 here:
    ZN268131 WiFi Smart Switch that allows you to connect a bistable button
    Since then (May 25), it has been connected to the network non-stop. And I made the repair on June 9...


    Symptom of a problem
    The symptom of the problem is presented in the video:




    Repair
    I knew what was wrong from the beginning.
    The electrolytic capacitor at the output of the AP8506 mains voltage lowering converter... visual inspection also showed that it had probably swollen slightly (on the side of the legs).
    I tried to measure it in the system using ESR-70, but it is not a reliable method (we will see why later):
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    To remove the capacitor, I also had to remove the WiFi module. Flux and braid, which absorbs the soldering binder, work great for soldering:
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    Outside the system, the capacitor showed other results, but also not very good:
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    I remind you, it`s 470uF. The Shicaxom brand, is it another weak brand, a Capxon clone?:
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds? How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    Besides, you can see that his legs are already swollen.
    Something must be given in its place. Be sure to also use LOW-ESR. With difficulty, I managed to find a replacement with a slightly higher voltage (16V instead of 10V), also manufactured by a rather dubious company, Changxin, but I already had it in stock so I decided to do a long-term experiment ( If something happens with this switch again, I will update this topic ):
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds? How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds? How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    Fits snugly. With difficulty. I had to "put it down". I had to solder the WiFi module at a small angle:
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    Finally, wash off the flux with IPA:
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds? How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?
    Luckily it still fits the case:
    How to fix a smart device that is chirping, squeaking and making strange sounds?

    Summary
    The symptom of the fault was an irregular cricketing sound and a slight dimming of the diode. My OpenBeken still worked on this switch, but its sound was disturbing and distracting when there was no music playing in the room.
    The culprit turned out to be 470uF 10V Shicaxon at the output of the converter powering the system. You could see that it had swollen from the bottom. As a test, I replaced it with what I had, i.e. 470uF 16V LOWESR Changxin. Will this second Chinese electrolytic capacitor last longer? We`ll see, it`s just an experiment. I didn`t have any other suitable low ESR ones. In turn, if you were to replace them, I would of course recommend proven capacitor brands instead of experiments.
    PS: Is this an isolated case and I was just unlucky enough to have a "clicking switch", or has this also happened to other forum members? I invite you to discuss.

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  • #2 20056625
    tomekptk
    Level 19  
    Useful post. I also have a squealing noise, but the "smart" controller of the infrared heater is new, but I suspect that the cause is different. Nothing dims. I think it may be the converter transformer. Perhaps treating it with an electrical insulating varnish spray will solve the problem?
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  • #3 20058401
    exti
    Level 32  
    @tomekptk Often the culprits are SMD ceramic capacitors, in which the dielectric is most often barium titanate. It`s the same compound used to make piezoelectric sound generators - hence the problem. They can, for example, be filled with "RTV silicone".
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  • #4 20875009
    ChrizZz
    Level 5  
    have to wake up this old thread. Typically for the Christmas time I spend some time with the smart home topics and during the year I had to replace a lot of these Tuya mini smart switches. They broke: No reaction, no communication with the Tuya app, switch switching itself after 1-2 seconds, ... all working with the shipped firmware - My goal of the day was to replace Tuya but now I'm drifting away :)

    Today I opened them and I found out that they are all the same: ZN268131.

    Does your switch work well with the new capacitor or did you face other issues later?
  • #5 20875052
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Yes, replacing capacitor with low-esr high quality one helps, but you also should use PowerSave 1 in OpenBeken to reduce power usage and heating.
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  • #6 20875118
    ChrizZz
    Level 5  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    but you also should use PowerSave 1 in OpenBeken to reduce power usage and heating.


    does that cause anything like slow connection or something?
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  • #7 20875122
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    No. It degrades capacitors quickly. If you don't use PowerSave on cheap devices, you will quickly degrade capacitors.
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  • #8 20992955
    pkkrusty
    Level 2  
    What is the technical reason for the heating if not using PowerSave 1?
  • #9 20992974
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    PowerSave in OpenBeken is a dynamic sleep for WiFi module, which reduces the current usage, especially at the time when WiFi module is in the idle. It's implemented already on multiple platforms, see example below:



    On the BK7231 itself, you may observe that PowerSave provides a nice current savings but only when you have Web App log closed. If you open Web App log page, the one that constantly queries the device, the PowerSave gives almost no savings. This is why PowerSave is called "dynamic sleep", it sleeps while it can, in very short bursts.
    PowerSave is not on by default because it might interfere with some other features that require precise timing, like IR receiver (IR interrupt) or B0937 power meter (which uses pulses to represent measured values).
    PowerSave 1 is required on the cheapest Tuya products because Tuya designs products in such a way that there is little to no safety margin in the power supply and the power supply is constantly slightly overloaded and stresses the low quality (I guess) LOW-ESR (I hope) capacitor, which, as you can see, I had to already replace in the topic above.
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  • #10 21049673
    omniron
    Level 10  
    OMG just reread this article.
    No wonder these fail rather quickly, the Pi-filter inductor is RIGHT NEXT to the switch inductor!
    I've never seen them THIS close.
    Every other designer tries to keep these two inductors as far as possible, it's even mentioned in some of those switch-IC datasheets.
    Sometimes they "hide" the Pi-filter inductor behind the two capacitors, or put it on the other side of PCB.
    But here?
    And that switch inductor is also right next to the antenna!!
    Wow.
    The Pi-filter inductor filters 50/60Hz, so it is not as critical as the switch inductor which needs to be as close as possible to the switch IC.
    I would move it (with shrink tube) far away, behind the last resistor in picture, between relay and screw header.

    I also recommend to get some good 22uF/25 ceramic capacitors and add them to the secondary stage of all these units, and switched power supplies in general.
    This reduces the stress on the existing electrolytic caps and enhances efficiency.
    Whenever such a unit fails (or sometimes right away if unit can be easily opened) I add these to the 5V output of the switch IC.
    For the high voltage side I added some 1uF MLCCs to one unit, but didn't add it to the (same) other unit, to compare.
    Will see if those help, test is out for a few years.

    Module with relay and electronic components on a PCB. Internal view of a smart switch with visible electronic components, including coils placed close together.
    The image shows additional notes for the KP321XB PWM power switch with a diagram illustrating the placement of the Pi filter inductor and power inductor.
  • #11 21051090
    omniron
    Level 10  
    Another of these (too) small units with inductors way too close.
    Eventhough they are a few mm apart, they are collinear so their inductivity influences each other quite much.
    OP's inductors were 90 degrees tilted, so only the (still significant due to closeness) angle of the windings would interfere.
    This is just bad design which could be avoided by caring more for the placement of these two coils.

    The image shows an electronic circuit board with closely placed coils indicated by arrows.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a smart WiFi relay, specifically the ZN268131 model, which began emitting intermittent chirping sounds after a month of use. Users suggest that the issue may stem from faulty components, particularly the electrolytic capacitor in the AP8506 voltage converter. Recommendations include replacing the capacitor with a low-ESR, high-quality variant and applying electrical insulating varnish to mitigate noise from SMD ceramic capacitors. Additionally, the importance of using PowerSave 1 in OpenBeken firmware is highlighted to reduce power consumption and prevent capacitor degradation. Concerns about the design flaws in the device, such as the close placement of inductors, are also discussed, with suggestions for improving component layout to enhance reliability.
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