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Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming

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  • Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    I will show here the interior and the procedure of freeing the OXT SWT10 volt-free relay from the cloud. A volt-free relay is one that does not have a permanent power supply to the output of the relay. The relay output is completely isolated here, so we can successfully control a completely different circuit with it, even a 12V one. This is a completely different situation than in the case of most popular Sonoff/Qiahip/Tuya gadgets, where the most popular versions allow you to conveniently control only mains voltage devices, which also power the system and is routed directly to one of the relay contacts.

    Purchase OXT SWT10
    I got the OXT SWT10 in a package from a reader, along with other Tuya gadgets for which I had to change the firmware for him, because he is a person who does not even have a soldering iron. The product itself, in turn, is quite popular on the web and is easy to buy in our country. Around PLN 40 is not such a big price at all.
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    A few screenshots from the sale offer:
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    These schedules etc. are in the Tuya application, but I have described it many times, so I will skip it today. Just parameters:
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming

    Kit contents
    Here are some photos of the packaging (with markings) and the contents of the set:
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    This time quite poor. They didn't even provide screws and double-sided tape.

    OXT SWT10 interior
    It's time to look inside and upload OpenBeken to free this product from the cloud.
    We start by prying the cover:
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    Inside there is a standard power supply for BP2525 and AMS1117-3.3V that gives a stable power supply for the WiFI module.
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    The relay is mounted quite interestingly, because on an additional small PCB:
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    The product is based on the CB3S WiFi module. This time, however, not CB2S. It's probably because the CB2S would be too tall for this case.
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming


    Wgrywanie OpenBeken
    Programujemy moim BK7231 GUI flasherem:
    https://github.com/openshwprojects/BK7231GUIFlashTool
    Dokumentacja CB3S szybko nam powie, gdzie są interesujące nas sygnały.
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    Pin number Symbol I/O type Function
    8 VCC P Power supply pin (3.3V)
    9 GND P Power supply reference ground
    15 RXD1 I/O UART1_RXD (user serial interface), which corresponds to P10 of the IC. Do not connect it to the VCC. By default, the MCU serial port should be in low-level or high-impedance state.
    16 TXD1 I/O UART1_TXD (user serial interface), which corresponds to P11 of the IC. Do not connect it to the VCC. By default, the MCU serial port should be in low-level or high-impedance state.

    In this particular case, no external LDO regulator is needed because the AMS1117-3.3V is on board. You can solder in front of him.
    Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming Voltage-free WiFi relay - OXT SWT10 - interior, programming
    I did not solder the CEN either, I did the RESET by cutting off the power supply (5V) for a moment. Programming went smoothly.

    GPIO roles
    Otherwise, the OpenBeken template, there is not much to set here:
    - LED - P9 (you can set the role of WiFi LED or LED_n to work inversely to the relay)
    - switch - ToggleChannelOnToggle - P8
    - relay - P6
    - push-through on the housing - Button role - P26
    It is worth remembering that in OpenBeken you can turn on energy saving on this type of devices using the PowerSave 1 command.
    Same in Tuya JSON form:
    Code: JSON
    Log in, to see the code

    And in the form of an OBK template:
    Code: JSON
    Log in, to see the code


    Summary
    Another device freed from the cloud. This particular relay was distinguished by the fact that it is "voltage-free", i.e. it does not have a rigidly connected relay output to the network, you can connect a lower voltage receiver there (with galvanic separation) and everything will work properly.
    Of course, you could convert an ordinary smart switch to work this way, I've seen some cut the PCB traces to "free" the relay output from 230V, but why make a sculpture? This product costs only PLN 40 and does its job well.
    When buying from China, it would probably be even cheaper, but this time we bought in our country and it wasn't that expensive.

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  • #2 20636259
    noel200
    Level 27  
    Are they with ESP8266 or ESP8285? Or does this board fit a module with ESP, for example ESP-12F?
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  • #3 20636293
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    They certainly are, although now I will not give any "certainty" from ESP from memory, because sometimes some manufacturers change WiFi modules to others. That's why I'm doing OpenBeken, so that BK7231 and other modules (W600, W800, BL602, XR809, etc.) can be programmed and used similarly to Tasmota. Anyway, we have compatibility with basic Tasmota commands and its JSON format.

    You can search here in our Elektrod list, but I don't think there is a similar one there yet:
    https://openbekeniot.github.io/webapp/devicesList.html

    CB3S is compatible with the pins of TYWE3S, i.e. also with ESP12. You can make a substitution like, for example, in this video:




    I will add that if you absolutely want a voltage-free one on ESP, it may turn out that it may be easier than replacing the module to redo the regular one (cut the path), but it depends on the layout of the paths on the PCB.
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  • #4 20636393
    noel200
    Level 27  
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    CB3S is compatible with the pins of TYWE3S, i.e. also with ESP12. You can make a substitution like, for example, in this video:

    That's what I meant. Thanks.
  • #5 20636563
    metalMANiu
    Level 21  
    @p.kaczmarek2
    I suggest calling this relay "dry contact" instead of "voltage free".

    Since you still need to open the device in order to upload a new firmware, I see no problem in cutting one track on the PCB in case we use a device with a contact connected to the phase.
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  • #6 20672268
    bogus_54
    Level 5  
    >>20635683
    Hello,
    I read that you are great at Smart Home issues. Can you give me advice?
    - I have a standard wifi network at home, of course
    - I want to find a wifi relay with a dry contact NC or NO, which I would like to control (turn on or off) using the smartphone application, while away from home, practically from anywhere in the world.
    - I don't know if this OXT mini WiFi TUYA module would meet my expectations? (There is also a ZigBee version of this relay - it doesn't tell me much), for me, a non-professional, it's hard for me to get around in all these smart home applications, cloud, not cloud, etc.

    Regards
  • #7 20672283
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    The Zigbee version is the version that requires an additional Zigbee gateway. So if you only have WiFi at home, you need to buy a Zigbee gateway separately to support Zigbee. If you care about low costs and do not intend to have a large number of devices, then you do not have to.

    If you want to control from anywhere in the world, a simple currentless relay will do, this one here has both NO and NC. This topic will do.

    Of course, do not change its firmware, you don't even need to solder anything, just use it with the manufacturer's application.
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  • #8 20672332
    bogus_54
    Level 5  
    Thank you for your help
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  • #9 21007330
    Chris_snk
    Level 13  
    How to change the status of the switch in the Tuya application so that when the contacts are closed it shows that the gate is open?

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the OXT SWT10 voltage-free relay, which allows for control of different circuits without a permanent power supply. Users inquire about the compatibility of the relay with various ESP modules, such as ESP8266 and ESP8285, and the possibility of using it with firmware like OpenBeken and Tasmota. The relay is noted for its dry contact functionality, which can be utilized for both normally open (NO) and normally closed (NC) configurations. A user seeks advice on controlling the relay remotely via a smartphone application, clarifying that the Zigbee version requires a separate gateway. The conversation emphasizes the ease of use of the OXT SWT10 without the need for firmware modifications.
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