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Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan

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  • #1
    BenAndo
    Level 3  
    Hello. I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I own a Connect SmartHome 5W GU5.3 RGBCCT Bulb and a Goldair Electronic Tower Fan.
    These are my last two Tuya devices at home that I can't flash. They were both bought this year. I made a PR for the Goldair device for Tuya Local and it works great. But I want to completely remove Tuya. It seems currently the only templates are for fan controllers, but not fans themselves.

    Regarding the smart bulb, I couldn't get it flashed either. Maybe this particular build of light is yet to be teared down.
    Both devices are quite cheap. I'd be keen to donate a new one or both of these devices to someone that's willing to tear it down. I myself don't want to do it as I don't have the expertise, or willpower to do so, and would rather not damage my devices. Is there a donation link somewhere that I could essentially put a bounty on for these two devices? Fortunately, there is an equivalent Zigbee version of the smart bulb, but I can't find anything close to a smart tower fan that works with Zigbee or anything other than Tuya.]Link[/url]
  • #2
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Hello, can you give a specific links to shops for those devices?
    Also, maybe include screenshots before those links expire.
    Donations go here:
    https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/openshwprojects
    Me or @DeDaMrAz can consider ordering those devices, depending on their prices and shipping cost to our countries (Poland or Serbia). As far as I know, currently @DeDaMrAz has some devices in queue so most likely it would be me doing the reverse-engineering.

    Here's a sample device support story:
    https://www.elektroda.com/rtvforum/topic3991620.html
  • #3
    BenAndo
    Level 3  

    Hi. Yes, that could make it difficult to ship to those countries, given that they're Australian products.
    Here's the link to Smart Downlight.
    Maybe a similar device from Aliexpress would be identical enough. Benexmart Tuya Zigbee Smart Led.

    This is the link to the Goldair Fan. Perhaps if someone in Australia sees this post, then they could help. Otherwise, there might be similar ones online.
    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan

    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
  • #4
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    So maybe I can guide you step by step through the process? Have you tried to open that bulb to see what's inside?
  • #5
    BenAndo
    Level 3  

    Yeah, it's probably going to work out best that way. I'll see when I get time to open up the bulb. I'll probably have to buy some tools first. What are the best tools to open this sort of light?
  • #6
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    This is the worst possible bulb type to open. Some of those bulbs have base contacts made in such a way it's hard to put them back it. I know @ferbulous was trying to convert some of those bulbs with some success, but maybe he can tell more about it. I personally don't have that kind of bulb sockets in Poland.

    The first step would be to delid first the translucent cover to see the LEDs, and then try removing the board with LEDs.

    Please make photos along the way, we like to document IoT devices here. This will make a good entry for our list:
    https://openbekeniot.github.io/webapp/devicesList.html
  • #7
    ferbulous
    Level 16  

    If the cables inside are long enough, then you can pull the PCB from the casing. There should be no problem.
    The issue is that some manufacturers just use really short cables that force you to remove the bottom pins, which might destroy the bulb case in the process, like what I did.
    If you do get the short cable version, try to reach and cut the cable inside using a cutter and solder longer ones to it for reassembly.

    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
  • #8
    BenAndo
    Level 3  

    Thanks so much to both of you for the tips and help.
    I'll try to open up the bulb sometime.

    Now, regarding the tower fan. Opening it up was actually very straightforward. Unfortunately, it has a WBR3 chip. I've never done any soldering in my life, so I'm gonna have to get some practice first before I think about swapping it out. However, if WBR3 gets official support in OpenBeken, that'd be awesome.
    I read that getting WBR3 chips on their own is quite hard. But I've found one available for purchase on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003735356193.html

    I understand that these are pretty rare and there are likely more urgent things to work on. But if donating a chip will help, let me know.
    Thanks!

    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
  • #9
    ferbulous
    Level 16  
    Hot air would be easier for this.
    You could get a cheap hot air gun, point it to a soldering wire.
    Once it starts melting, that’s when you start heating up the pins around the chip and slowly lift the chip.
  • #11
    BenAndo
    Level 3  
    I opened up the GU 5.3 Smart bulb. It has a W800-B400 Wifi chip. I've not heard of the B400 version mentioned anywhere, only the C400.
    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan

    Can this be flashed OTA? If not I'm not even sure where to plug any serial adapters in.

    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
  • #12
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    There is no tuya_convert currently for W800, but OpenBeken runs on both W600 and W800 and once you flash once by wires, then you can update firmware remotely.

    It seems there may be UART pads on the board. Clean the board and do more detailed photo.
  • #13
    BenAndo
    Level 3  
    Where would I attach the wires on this particular board?
  • #15
    BenAndo
    Level 3  

    Oh yes, you're right. There are pads there.
    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
  • #16
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Can you get somewhat better quality out of it?

    We need to know where do they connect, namely to which QFN pins of W800 they are connected.

    It seems that... we also need to find a datasheet of W800-B400 or at least of W800-C400 .
    Interestingly enough, it seems there are no mentions of W800-B400 over the web?
  • #17
    BenAndo
    Level 3  

    Yes, it seems W800-B400 is not mentioned anywhere on the internet. I guess I made a new discovery :)
    Below is a higher-res photo of the board.
    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
  • #18
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Here is the pinout:
    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
    Now you can match crystal oscillator pins:
    Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan
    i have started mapping the pins in paint, I've already found boot pin. Can you finalize the mapping?