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Request for teardown of GU5.3 RGBCW Lightbulb & Smart Wi-Fi Tower Fan

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  • #1 20715586
    BenAndo
    Level 4  
    Hello. I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I own a Connect SmartHome 5W GU5.3 RGBCCT Bulb and a Goldair Electronic Tower Fan.
    These are my last two Tuya devices at home that I can't flash. They were both bought this year. I made a PR for the Goldair device for Tuya Local and it works great. But I want to completely remove Tuya. It seems currently the only templates are for fan controllers, but not fans themselves.

    Regarding the smart bulb, I couldn't get it flashed either. Maybe this particular build of light is yet to be teared down.
    Both devices are quite cheap. I'd be keen to donate a new one or both of these devices to someone that's willing to tear it down. I myself don't want to do it as I don't have the expertise, or willpower to do so, and would rather not damage my devices. Is there a donation link somewhere that I could essentially put a bounty on for these two devices? Fortunately, there is an equivalent Zigbee version of the smart bulb, but I can't find anything close to a smart tower fan that works with Zigbee or anything other than Tuya.]Link[/url]
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  • #2 20715672
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Hello, can you give a specific links to shops for those devices?
    Also, maybe include screenshots before those links expire.
    Donations go here:
    https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/openshwprojects
    Me or @DeDaMrAz can consider ordering those devices, depending on their prices and shipping cost to our countries (Poland or Serbia). As far as I know, currently @DeDaMrAz has some devices in queue so most likely it would be me doing the reverse-engineering.

    Here's a sample device support story:
    https://www.elektroda.com/rtvforum/topic3991620.html
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  • #3 20716221
    BenAndo
    Level 4  

    Hi. Yes, that could make it difficult to ship to those countries, given that they're Australian products.
    Here's the link to Smart Downlight.
    Maybe a similar device from Aliexpress would be identical enough. Benexmart Tuya Zigbee Smart Led.

    This is the link to the Goldair Fan. Perhaps if someone in Australia sees this post, then they could help. Otherwise, there might be similar ones online.
    Two smart LED bulbs labeled SmartHome with a colorful top surface.

    White Goldair tower fan with digital display on top.
  • #4 20716299
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    So maybe I can guide you step by step through the process? Have you tried to open that bulb to see what's inside?
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  • #5 20716934
    BenAndo
    Level 4  

    Yeah, it's probably going to work out best that way. I'll see when I get time to open up the bulb. I'll probably have to buy some tools first. What are the best tools to open this sort of light?
  • #6 20717058
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    This is the worst possible bulb type to open. Some of those bulbs have base contacts made in such a way it's hard to put them back it. I know @ferbulous was trying to convert some of those bulbs with some success, but maybe he can tell more about it. I personally don't have that kind of bulb sockets in Poland.

    The first step would be to delid first the translucent cover to see the LEDs, and then try removing the board with LEDs.

    Please make photos along the way, we like to document IoT devices here. This will make a good entry for our list:
    https://openbekeniot.github.io/webapp/devicesList.html
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  • #7 20717431
    ferbulous
    Level 18  

    If the cables inside are long enough, then you can pull the PCB from the casing. There should be no problem.
    The issue is that some manufacturers just use really short cables that force you to remove the bottom pins, which might destroy the bulb case in the process, like what I did.
    If you do get the short cable version, try to reach and cut the cable inside using a cutter and solder longer ones to it for reassembly.

    Blue wire cable cutters with dimension and usage information.
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  • #8 20719328
    BenAndo
    Level 4  

    Thanks so much to both of you for the tips and help.
    I'll try to open up the bulb sometime.

    Now, regarding the tower fan. Opening it up was actually very straightforward. Unfortunately, it has a WBR3 chip. I've never done any soldering in my life, so I'm gonna have to get some practice first before I think about swapping it out. However, if WBR3 gets official support in OpenBeken, that'd be awesome.
    I read that getting WBR3 chips on their own is quite hard. But I've found one available for purchase on Aliexpress. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003735356193.html

    I understand that these are pretty rare and there are likely more urgent things to work on. But if donating a chip will help, let me know.
    Thanks!

    Close-up of a motherboard with a visible WBR3 chip. Close-up of a circuit board with various electronic components and a WBR3 chip.
  • #9 20719329
    ferbulous
    Level 18  
    Hot air would be easier for this.
    You could get a cheap hot air gun, point it to a soldering wire.
    Once it starts melting, that’s when you start heating up the pins around the chip and slowly lift the chip.
  • #11 20724014
    BenAndo
    Level 4  
    I opened up the GU 5.3 Smart bulb. It has a W800-B400 Wifi chip. I've not heard of the B400 version mentioned anywhere, only the C400.
    Dismantled circuit board of a GU 5.3 smart bulb with W800-B400 Wifi chip.

    Can this be flashed OTA? If not I'm not even sure where to plug any serial adapters in.

    Person holding an open GU 5.3 bulb showing LED diodes and W800-B400 WiFi chip. Opened smart bulb GU 5.3 showing a circuit board with a W800-B400 Wifi chip.
  • #12 20724017
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    There is no tuya_convert currently for W800, but OpenBeken runs on both W600 and W800 and once you flash once by wires, then you can update firmware remotely.

    It seems there may be UART pads on the board. Clean the board and do more detailed photo.
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  • #13 20724022
    BenAndo
    Level 4  
    Where would I attach the wires on this particular board?
  • #14 20724025
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    It seems there are pads under the glue here:
    Close-up of a green circuit board with visible integrated circuits and glue, highlighted by red arrows.
    Can you remove the glue first so we can investigate?
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  • #15 20724032
    BenAndo
    Level 4  

    Oh yes, you're right. There are pads there.
    Round printed circuit board with electronics on a dark background.
  • #16 20724057
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Can you get somewhat better quality out of it?

    We need to know where do they connect, namely to which QFN pins of W800 they are connected.

    It seems that... we also need to find a datasheet of W800-B400 or at least of W800-C400 .
    Interestingly enough, it seems there are no mentions of W800-B400 over the web?
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  • #17 20733860
    BenAndo
    Level 4  

    Yes, it seems W800-B400 is not mentioned anywhere on the internet. I guess I made a new discovery :)
    Below is a higher-res photo of the board.
    Close-up of a round circuit board with various electronic components.
  • #18 20733926
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    Here is the pinout:
    Diagram of the W800 QFN32 integrated circuit with labeled pins.
    Now you can match crystal oscillator pins:
    W800 QFN32 pinout diagram next to a PCB image.
    i have started mapping the pins in paint, I've already found boot pin. Can you finalize the mapping?
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  • #19 21057924
    p.kaczmarek2
    Moderator Smart Home
    @BenAndo what is the state of your W800-B400, have you managed to flash it?
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  • #20 21063989
    BenAndo
    Level 4  
    @p.kaczmarek2 unfortunately no I never did get it flashed. I wish I had of given it a better go. I was ultimately trying to find a bulb that could be flashed OTA without being opened up first. Since first making this post I discovered there is a GU 5.3/MR16 bulb that can be flashed: https://github.com/tuya-cloudcutter/tuya-cloudcutter/issues/383
    Philips Hue also came out with a GU 5.3 bulb.
    I can't find my W800-B400 so I'm guessing I disposed of it.

    Regarding the tower fan, I desoldered the WBR3 and swapped it out with an ESP12-F.

Topic summary

A user seeks assistance in tearing down a Connect SmartHome 5W GU5.3 RGBCCT bulb and a Goldair Electronic Tower Fan, both of which are Tuya devices purchased this year. The user wishes to remove Tuya from these devices and is willing to donate them for reverse engineering. Responses include links to purchase the devices, suggestions for opening the bulb, and discussions about the internal components, including the W800-B400 chip in the bulb and the WBR3 chip in the fan. The community provides guidance on the flashing process, potential tools, and the need for detailed documentation of the teardown process. The user ultimately discovers that the W800-B400 chip is not widely documented and expresses interest in finding a bulb that can be flashed OTA without disassembly.
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