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Control of circulator via smart socket with remote control, 2 locations

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How can I switch on a circulation pump remotely in two different rooms without using a phone, ideally with automatic switch-off after a few minutes?

Yes — you can use a smart socket or relay with a physical remote, and many Tuya-compatible solutions also allow battery-powered wall-style switches that can be placed in different rooms [#21704233] If you want a simple non-phone option, search for a “smart socket with remote control”; there are offers with a remote included for under PLN 100 [#21704491] For the 5-minute use case, a timer relay is also a practical solution: it can switch the pump on for a set time and then turn it off automatically [#21704233] If you prefer a more automated approach, a motion detector can trigger the socket/relay for 1–2 minutes or a user-defined period, which was suggested as a convenient setup [#21705043]
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  • #1 21704199
    Tombo55
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    I am asking for advice on how to solve the issue of switching on the circulation pump at the heat pump via remote control in a detached house. The idea is to be able to switch it on for a specific period of time, e.g. 5 minutes. and preferably in 2 different rooms (bathroom on the ground floor and kitchen on the ground floor). Are there any smart sockets with remote control ? I don't want actuation via my phone.
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    Tombo55
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    There is no solution or answer to my question in this link.
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    78db78
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    >>21704258 Well, yes, and the question of how quickly the hot water will flow when the pump is switched on.
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    Tombo55
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    >>21704233
    Can you provide a link to an example of a timing relay and a solution from Tuya (socket + switch).>>21704233
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    Cragmite
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    On a popular auction site, when you type in 'smart socket with remote control' there are offers that may interest you. They cost under PLN100 and come with remote controls, so you'll avoid control from your phone.

    However, the optimum solution would be to couple the circulation pump with, for example, a lighting circuit in the kitchen or bathroom or to fit a motion detector. Then actuation will be automatic. Personally, I once considered adding a button a'la bell near the kitchen sink to activate the circulator - you walk up to the sink, press the button, wait a few seconds and hot water in the tap is ready.

    The periodic switching for X amount of time suggested above is a poor idea in my opinion, as it will generate a lot of losses when you don't need it, even though the pipes are insulated. However, from a usage perspective it would be most convenient.
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    Tombo55
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    What I mean is that I can turn the pump on for a certain period of time after which it switches off, e.g. 3 minutes. This seems like the best solution to me, as I don't always want to use hot water when I go into the bathroom or kitchen.
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    Tombo55
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    Heat pump since August and with circulation on from 6am to 10pm - power consumption 150% higher was.
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    Tombo55
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    I did not receive any invoice and all electricity went from the PV :) Tracking the consumption shown on the sub-meter from the pump for heating the hot water in August with circulation on and in September with it off - I draw conclusions and ask. That the heat pump consumes electricity I know.
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    panzewsi
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    I do circulation control in 2 ways. The most convenient for the user is to use the existing motion detectors from the alarm. I did this on a Satel Integra. When motion is detected, the detector input activates the mono output for a period of time, which turns on the circulator relay or socket. Usually 1-2 mins is enough, at a colleague's it's 30 seconds and a forced 2 minute pause, he says it works great. If there are no cables then you can do on Satel's Abax - a wireless socket can be controlled by a wired detector (or wireless), only then it gets a bit expensive.
    If you don't have an alarm, then you can cheaply buy a battery-operated motion detector and a Tuya or Supla etc wireless socket and make a scene that, when motion is detected, turns on the socket that the pump is plugged into for a while. It's a bit of a prosthetic, but it works reasonably tolerably well.
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    Tombo55
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    It's different what to choose: the Shelly socket + buttons or the TPLINK TAPO socket + S200B buttons, but for that I'll probably still need a hub ?
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