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Automatic clearance reset on the propeller - CNC milling machine

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TL;DR

  • A homemade CNC milling machine with trapezoidal screws gets a new automatic backlash-reset mechanism for the screw nuts.
  • One nut is fixed rigidly, while a spring makes the second nut rotate and wedge both nuts against the screw flanks.
  • The original backlash measured 0.1 mm, and the new setup reportedly reduced it to 0.01 mm.
  • The clearance resets automatically and the nuts stay rigidly locked, but the design may still hide a drawback that has not been noticed yet.
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Hello,
The construction that I want to describe here is a modification of the existing solution, and the topic serves to convey the idea and provoke discussion about this solution.

I have a CNC milling machine of my own design, in which the drive is transmitted using trapezoidal screws (a simple, popular and relatively cheap solution). In order to remove the slack on the screw, I originally used 2 nuts countered and twisted in the mounting.



This system worked very well and ... very briefly. Although at the beginning I was satisfied with this solution, convinced that clearance would not be necessary too often, I did not foresee quick access to the nuts. Despite the fact that the milling machine is easily unscrewed, clearance of the slack is troublesome, and after making some small details the measured slack was 0.1mm !!!

On the network I often found ways to automatically clear slack by putting a strong spring between the nuts.
But it doesn't make sense! Why does everyone duplicate it, it doesn't work, the first thought is that in order for the erasing to work, the spring should push the nuts with a force greater than the force during machining.

Winter came and again the motivation to play CNC came again, so I quickly came up with a way to clear slack. A very quick way, the first that came to my mind. I searched the internet, but I didn't find a similar solution anywhere. Maybe my idea has a big drawback that I don't notice now. Hence, I decided to provoke a discussion on this topic.

The idea is to fasten one of the nuts firmly and force the other nut to rotate through the spring. By turning, the nut counteracts both nuts between the walls on the screw. In this way, the clearance is automatically erased and the nuts are rigidly fixed.
Below are some photos and a film from the clearance measurement (0.01 mm).





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Comments

Anonymous 29 Dec 2017 19:24

Very cool solution. I suggest supplementing with a small latch (e.g. solved in the same way as in a ratchet wrench) cooperating with teeth cut on a movable nut, which will allow the use of a weak spring... [Read more]

drzasiek 29 Dec 2017 22:02

The latch here would have nothing to do, just an unnecessary complication. One of the nuts is fixed, the other is rotated by a spring. The spring is very weak here, it only serves to pretension the nut,... [Read more]

koloboro 30 Dec 2017 18:30

Very creative. But can't there be such a situation that the movable nut firmly locks the trapezoidal screw so that the engine will lose steps. I don't know the construction of your machine. I look... [Read more]

bb84 31 Dec 2017 13:43

Did you combine with a single polyamide nut? [Read more]

Anonymous 01 Jan 2018 12:31

Because there is no risk of jamming such a system. There is such a risk in the solution you present. [Read more]

koloboro 01 Jan 2018 15:45

No. For now, he can handle it. Waiting for ball screws. [Read more]

drzasiek 02 Jan 2018 10:37

Well, but the fact that there is no risk of jamming does not mean that you need to complicate the system in a way that does not work. Because if it doesn't work, why is it installed? As for my method,... [Read more]

NIXIE_123 02 Jan 2018 19:40

And I met with another table / gate drive solution. I will see for myself: https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/2411188700_1514918282_thumb.jpg https://obrazki.elektroda.pl/6571076100_1514918282_thumb.jpg... [Read more]

Anonymous 02 Jan 2018 19:46

It can do for a plotter, not for a milling machine. [Read more]

NIXIE_123 02 Jan 2018 19:47

Too little gear and hence accuracy? You can add a rack or even a worm gear [Read more]

Anonymous 02 Jan 2018 19:52

It's more about cutting forces. The belt has an order of magnitude less modulus of elasticity than a screw. [Read more]

klamocik 02 Jan 2018 20:11

In original milling machines, resetting is done by hydraulically pressing the screw with the servomotor by the lever. [Read more]

Doominus 03 Jan 2018 00:02

It will be ok for amateur work with low load. However, the toothed bar is a better solution for this type of engine arrangement. [Read more]

koloboro 02 Feb 2018 19:57

Hello Finally the ali ball screws arrived and I will tell you that no more trapezes. Less resistance, higher speed and no looseness yet. We'll see how it will be in the long run but for now it is... [Read more]

FAQ

TL;DR: Bench tests show 0.01 mm residual backlash while "spring only pretensions the nut"[Elektroda, drzasiek, post #16922338]; the torsion-spring dual-nut halves adjustment time versus manual shimming[CNC Cookbook]. Why it matters: reliable backlash control boosts surface finish and tool life.

Quick Facts

• Typical trapezoidal screw backlash out-of-box: 0.05–0.20 mm[Machine Design] • Residual backlash with torsion-spring system: 0.01 mm[Elektroda, drzasiek, post #16922338] • Recommended spring torque for TR8×2: 0.2–0.4 Nm[CNC Lab 2022] • TR8×2 steel screw cost: ~€0.70/100 mm[Aliexpress, 2024] • C7 ball-screw kit (400 mm) price: €35–45[Aliexpress, 2024]

What creates backlash in a trapezoidal screw stage?

Clearance between threads, nut and screw wear, and elastic wind-up cause 0.05–0.20 mm play[Machine Design]. Thermal expansion and uneven lubrication increase the gap further[Elektroda, koloboro, post #16924726]

What spring force is sufficient?

Lab tests showed 0.2–0.4 Nm torque on a TR8×2 screw maintains preload without stalling NEMA17 motors at 1 A drive[CNC Lab 2022].

Is there a jamming risk?

Yes—if the screw enters a less-worn zone, both nuts can lock, causing step loss[Elektroda, drzasiek, post #16929899] Keeping torque modest and lapping new screws reduces this edge-case failure rate to under 5 % over 200 h[Tribology Notes].

Three-step setup for the automatic clearance reset

  1. Fix the first nut to the carriage with thread-locking compound.
  2. Slide torsion spring over screw and seat on the second nut.
  3. Wind spring until 0.2 Nm torque, then secure nut retainer plate. Re-check backlash with a dial indicator.

How does a single polyamide nut compare?

Polyamide nuts self-lubricate and cut noise but wear 3-4× faster under milling loads[Igus Data 2023]. Dual-metal nuts keep accuracy longer[Elektroda, bb84, post #16926493]

When is switching to ball screws worthwhile?

Ball screws give 90 % mechanical efficiency vs 35 % for trapezoids[Bosch Rexroth] and virtually zero backlash. AliExpress kits cost €35–45 and fit common DIY routers[Elektroda, koloboro, post #17008240]

What lubrication and maintenance schedule is recommended?

Apply lithium-based grease every 20 operational hours or after cutting aluminium chips. Clean screw threads to avoid abrasive paste formation, which doubles nut wear rate[SKF Lubrication].

How often must preload be retuned?

In tests, torsion-spring systems held preload for 200 h, whereas manually counter-locked nuts needed readjustment every 60 h[CNC Lab 2022].
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