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RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector

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  • #1561 19785786
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    Even trivial, you only need to change during work, all the programs that I used allowed to change only after stopping. It is also badly described;

    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector


    In-Phase = Direct Sampling from RTL I input a Quadrature = Direct Sampling x Q input. For higher frequencies it should be set to None. You can receive in the In-phase setting because the R802T2 has only one output connected to I, and Q is used by default for the lower band.
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  • #1562 19786725
    bsq500
    Level 14  
    SP5IT wrote:
    I have a problem with SDRsharp, new and old not colored version. It has always been.
    Dongiel REALTEK 2832U, Windows 7x64, WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385)
    2 sound cards, onboard and USB DAC.
    The program hangs after a few minutes of use under these circumstances:
    1. The onbard default tab in Windows - OK
    2. DAC default in windows - pauses
    3. Default DAC in windows, RTL output on onboard - pushes

    How do you get this carcass to run on board?
    Michael


    Have you tried to lower the Sample Rate?
    For me, he often caught a push already at 2.56 MSPS, and at 2 - 2.4 it flashes OK.
  • #1563 19787428
    rosomak19
    Level 23  
    In my case, it happened that something was going through the USB and the donglas lost communication and was just catching a breeze. Sometimes it was enough to hit the stop and play again and he would go, but it was longer or shorter and he was hanging again. It helped to restart the computer. I would like to add that for my computer, such an SDR, it is almost no load, even at max sampling. However, in each computer and with each receiver I have one problem. This is a millisecond audio interrupt. If I didn't set up the VAC and the audio computer, it doesn't help. Sometimes is more often, sometimes rarely, but it always is. It is not a problem for digital data, but all analog images are fragmented, because the program loses synchro. On a laptop, where there is a bare 10, it does not have much that is installed, but it can also interrupt at times.
  • #1564 19787446
    neo386
    Level 12  
    Dongl is sitting in the USB port, which is loose and chatting. I also had such a problem and the extension cord helped to minimize the movement of the RTL I recommend ...

    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
  • #1565 19787506
    rosomak19
    Level 23  
    For me it was not a question of USB, because I kicked them out of the butt and soldered the wires directly to the PCB, because I also thought that maybe something in the connector. Certain programs or anti-virus may certainly cause the suspension.
  • #1566 19793812
    SP5IT
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Please tell me which software will allow you to watch terrestrial TV with the changed photo drivers?
    HNY, Michał
  • #1567 19793828
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    SP5IT wrote:
    which soft will allow you to watch terrestrial TV with replaced drivers with a picture?

    No. DVBT drivers must be used to watch TV.
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  • #1569 19794013
    rosomak19
    Level 23  
    Wow, I don't know what the problem with this shredding of received pictures by fax, sstv, or noaa on a stationary computer: / I fired the antiviral, turned off the net, dozens of changes in the settings of the virtual cable and audio in general and nothing. This is an example of receiving a fax.
    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
  • #1570 19821499
    don_viking
    Level 21  
    I noticed that Louis' DSD since 1.8.3 doesn't decode the voice on NXDN48 and NXDN96 is just gibberish. The older version 1.8.2 still decoded well and the voice was clear and clear. Does anyone still have a problem with this and does anyone know how to solve this problem so that the latest version decodes NXDN correctly? Writing to Louis doesn't get you anywhere because he doesn't answer the questions.

    This version is the last to decode voice to NXDN48 and NXDN96.
    https://github.com/LouisErigHerve/dsd/tree/7d3b4399531dee59e7219f04b685e9f55e431aed

    And this next version is not. And all of the upwards no longer decode NXDN48 and NXDN96 voice purely.
    https://github.com/LouisErigHerve/dsd/tree/b01dc12ee1d2aea5ae2fb50466cf4278e4aadd91

    Below is a link to the description of the changes.
    https://github.com/LouisErigHerve/dsd/commits/master
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  • #1571 19821520
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    @don_viking the first two links; not found
  • #1572 19821551
    don_viking
    Level 21  
    Already corrected the links above and they should work.
    I am giving them below as well.

    This version is the last to decode voice to NXDN48 and NXDN96.
    https://github.com/LouisErigHerve/dsd/tree/7d3b4399531dee59e7219f04b685e9f55e431aed

    And this next version is not. And all of the upwards no longer decode NXDN48 and NXDN96 voice purely.
    https://github.com/LouisErigHerve/dsd/tree/b01dc12ee1d2aea5ae2fb50466cf4278e4aadd91

    Below is a link to the description of the changes.
    https://github.com/LouisErigHerve/dsd/commits/master
  • #1573 19838208
    rosomak19
    Level 23  
    Anyone have any idea what to do to prevent SDRConsole from shredding analog images? The case looks like this, I fired an anti-virus some time ago (although I do not know if it had an impact, because it did not work before) and yesterday I launched SDRSharp to receive pictures from NOAA and Meteor. I noticed that there was only a shift once during pickup. Earlier, it was so choppy on both programs that it would be a pity to talk. I put a check on KF as it will be. There was a nice surprise in relation to SDRSharp, because with FAXs it received correctly, or sometimes there was one skew, on SSTV it finally decodes pictures well, although sometimes it can also occasionally occur with one synchro loss. Unfortunately on SDR Console it's still the same and cuts all analog pictures. I don't know why this is happening, is it a matter of some settings, but what? Below is an example of SSTV reception from SDRConsole with image shifts and SDRScharp, without losing synchro.
    RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector RTL-SDR - an SDR receiver from a cheap DVB-T tuner on a USB connector
  • #1574 19943478
    bsq500
    Level 14  
    Does any of you know an android application that will connect me to the airspy server? The only Questasdr I found crashes when trying to connect to the server :(
  • #1575 19949789
    Ivettos84
    Level 1  
    Recently, SDR came out for android, look in google or on github. I tested and on Android 11 in the Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 phone I have, almost everything flashed. There is an option to choose SpyServer, so that's what you mean, because it's an Airspy network.

    greetings
  • #1577 20639120
    megid
    Level 16  
    Hi. On a well-known commercial portal, I recently noticed DVB-T tuners with a frequency range extended from the bottom - the limit was lowered from about 480 kHz to 100 kHz. Do they really "go down" so low, or is it just a publicity stunt? Or maybe in the popular ones, with a lower range of 480 kHz, you can also go lower, even to, for example, 20 kHz. I read somewhere that the lower limit can be lowered by feeding the signal from the antenna directly to the pin of the integrated circuit. I'm trying to make an SDR receiver and I'm looking for a device with the widest bandwidth and at the same time budget.
  • #1578 20639227
    lysy1980
    Level 33  
    Post the screenshot you are talking about
  • #1580 20639240
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    megid wrote:
    I recently noticed DVB-T tuners with a frequency range extended from the bottom - the limit was lowered from about 480 kHz to 100 kHz.

    megid wrote:
    I read somewhere that the lower limit can be lowered by feeding the signal from the antenna directly to the pin of the integrated circuit.

    In the case of RTL, this is nothing new, it is called Direct Sampling. It is true that the sensitivity of the receiver decreases, but it allows operation from about 10kHz (eg VLF), but in practice there are very large interferences.
    I described such a receiver; https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3730066.html and its successor with much better dynamics; https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3944129.html#20352286.
  • #1581 20639243
    lysy1980
    Level 33  
    This is a dummy clone of the original RTL-SDR v3. Go to the project page, you'll see what a clone looks like inside. RTL-SDR v3 does not go below 500kHz due to the BiasTee circuit. Everything is explained on the project page. Each of the receivers on the RTL2832 below some 24MHz usually uses the direct-sampling method which is a prosthesis. Buy yourself a good RSP1A clone, you will spend about PLN 300 for a good one and you will have decent reception and better dynamics.
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  • #1582 20639248
    ArturAVS
    Moderator
    lysy1980 wrote:
    Buy yourself a good RSP1A clone

    Mine works very well, it's a pity that after switching to linux I can't get it to work, in Win it's much better than RTL.
  • #1584 20639433
    megid
    Level 16  
    / /
    lysy1980 wrote:
    This is a dummy clone of the original RTL-SDR v3. Go to the project page, you'll see what a clone looks like inside. RTL-SDR v3 does not go below 500kHz due to the BiasTee circuit. Everything is explained on the project page. Each of the receivers on the RTL2832 below some 24MHz usually uses the direct-sampling method which is a prosthesis.

    Do you have a link to this project page? I looked at the KONEKTOR5000 website, but I can't see much there. I think direct-sampling is also used, although they call 500 zlotys for it. What is the reason for this limitation to 500kHz - is it caused by software or the use of high-pass filters?
  • #1585 20639438
    lysy1980
    Level 33  
    Well, as the name suggests - the project is called rtl-sdr can be found on Google.
    The connector is a reseller of receivers that really has no idea how it works - just read their descriptions in the store or on Allegro.

    rtl-sdr.com
  • #1586 20639515
    Tommy82
    Level 41  

    @lysy1980 I have a clone under Linux running GQRX. Dump1090 did not fire because I use RTL-SDR for this.
  • #1587 20722108
    waniah
    Level 10  
    Hey I have this question. I am currently testing various antennas for SDR RTL. I found a logarithmic-periodic antenna I bought some time ago. The antenna almost new bought from Dipol store It turned out to be a disappointment. I wonder if converting it to a polywave dipole with different arm lengths but joined together. into one antenna . And positioning it vertically, is there a chance for reasonable reception ? I live in an apartment building but located the highest in my town. Having a 2-story attic. And the polywave dipole I made works quite well.
    And I will immediately ask
    In connection with the dimensions of my attic. I am wondering what to choose, having a choice. Large antennas but placed under the roof and rather normal on the roof.
    Digression
    Once due to several broadband antennas placed in the attic Piorum blew a hole in the roof 2 times in the same place. Fortunately, the neighbors changed and the new ones do not know about these adventures :) Log-periodic antenna mounted on a vertical pole. .
  • #1588 20723792
    flinc
    Level 28  
    On google find logarithmic antenna calculator
  • #1589 20723809
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @waniah
    But she is directional. I once hooked up to a TV logarithmic dump 1090 and it even picked up something but narrowly. Do you have a specific target or generally for listening because if the latter it's pointless.
  • #1590 20723968
    waniah
    Level 10  

    For listening I use a set of dipoles of different lengths, properly trimmed for specific frequency ranges. I found on the web some diagrams of dipoles combined into a set. For now I am experimenting.

    Electrical diagram showing an antenna dipole array with a 1:1 balun. Diagram of a dipole array with varying element lengths.
    .

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the use of RTL-SDR (Software Defined Radio) receivers, specifically utilizing inexpensive DVB-T tuners like the RTL2832U and R820T models. Users share experiences regarding the capabilities of these tuners to receive a wide range of frequencies, including AM, FM, and shortwave bands. Concerns about potential damage to the tuners when connecting antennas directly to the RTL2832 chip are raised, along with suggestions for protective measures such as using diodes. Various software options for SDR, including SDR# and HDSDR, are discussed, along with installation issues and driver compatibility. Users also explore antenna options, modifications for improved reception, and the effectiveness of different setups for receiving signals across various bands.
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