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  • #151 18881618
    DjAbra
    Level 11  
    but what about these additional sensors as they do not guard the radiators in the room (no head control). unless you invest in a double system, ST-2801 WiFi to guard the boiler and installation on the open ground floor where it would affect 3 heaters, and a separate system for rooms / toilets with some smart heads and temperature sensors ...
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  • #152 18881674
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    Exactly. I bought the St-2801 wifi to remotely manage the boiler operation. If someone wants to manage each room separately, he has to arm himself with other devices
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  • #153 18956292
    shadock
    Level 11  
    lasekd wrote:
    Exactly. I bought the St-2801 wifi to remotely manage the boiler operation. If someone wants to manage each room separately, he must arm himself with other devices


    Chicken! What topic!
    lasekd , I have a few questions:
    1. Can service parameters be changed via ST-2801, eg P01, P02 ..?
    2. Have you reached it, is it possible to preview the modulation ..?
    3. Here is a somewhat lame question: when turning on the boiler b1 11 b2 11 IF 011 means the software version (i.e. 11 ..?)
  • #154 18956784
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    1. No (at 99.99%)
    2. Shows, but some people have long delays, or the refresh rate is slower and don't know how much to report as there are large variations in modulation
    3. Yes (motherboard and display board software version) then IF then I don't know.
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  • #155 19083246
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    dacher wrote:
    You have to tire Tech? a bit
    By the way, I bought and installed the radio temperature sensor you wrote about - it works very well and finally I can change the room for measurements!


    Hello
    I also have a Termet Gold Plus with a Tech ST-2801 WiFi controller with Termet branding and I wrote to Tech asking about connecting an external temperature sensor. Apparently it doesn't work with that. I wanted to ask if you have a driver in the Tech or Termet version and if the external sensor works because in fact the built-in sensor in the controller is very susceptible to temperature changes caused by backlighting
  • #157 19083845
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    lasekd wrote:
    Works seamlessly


    Thanks.
    Can you tell me what kind of sensor it is? Because Tech
    currently sells new ST-2801 WiFi regulators with a C-mini sensor.
  • #159 19084082
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    Does anyone know what the newest Termet Gold Plus soft is? I currently have the b14 version - the boiler was bought in November 2019 (in the thread I read that there is a b15 version).
    What does the update process look like? Can it be ordered directly from the Tester or does it have to go through the Termet service?
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec

    PS. I also read in the thread about this spec controller connected to the LIN to the boiler. Is it available?
    What's the price of this?
    Thanks for the information
  • #160 19084136
    bro2004
    Level 30  
    It is impossible to update. Install new motherboard and display board.
  • #161 19084354
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    bro2004 wrote:
    It is impossible to update. Install new motherboard and display board.

    It is possible to update, you can even personally drive to the Tester company after prior telephone arrangement and they will do it while you wait, but both boards need to be reprogrammed.
    And the controller connected to Lin is a comfort module and is available in Termet and stores that sell it.
  • #162 19084384
    bro2004
    Level 30  
    You just have to live in Świebodzice or send it to them in December ?
  • #163 19084574
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    Wojtermet25 wrote:
    bro2004 wrote:
    It is impossible to update. Install new motherboard and display board.

    It is possible to update, you can even personally drive to the Tester company after prior telephone arrangement and they will do it while you wait, but both boards need to be reprogrammed.
    And the controller connected to Lin is a comfort module and is available in Termet and stores that sell it.


    Thanks for the information
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  • #164 19090213
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    lasekd wrote:
    Works seamlessly


    welcome back
    Today the c-mini sensor has arrived for the Tech ST-2801 WiFi controller, but I can't adapt it.
    That is, in the menu, I choose the type of temperature sensor and give the option to register on the sensor
    I press the button on the back of the case. The red light blinks after several seconds
    I am getting information from the module that registration has failed. I'm afraid I have an old version too
    module. I have the following information in the module options:

    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec

    Can you check what version of the module you have? From what I saw in the photos you also have
    sensor with Termet branding.
  • #165 19090261
    maliniak80
    Level 17  
    The boiler is working great, at least for now, as if I bought 4 bellows ago and a boiler from 2018 and you can see that the board with the new soft:
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
    I only had a problem with the external temperature sensor, but it was my fault because I put the sensor cable in the tray with the 230v mains cable, it caused a temperature drift around 3 ° and unstable burner operation, about 30mv is induced in this cable, so better give a braided cable, but such a patent also works :)
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
    The c-mini sensor with the "termet" technique, as my colleagues wrote above, also works
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
  • #166 19090276
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    maliniak80 wrote:
    The boiler is working great, at least for now, as if I bought 4 bellows ago and a boiler from 2018 and you can see that the board with the new soft:
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
    I only had a problem with the external temperature sensor, but it was my fault because I put the sensor cable in the tray with the 230v mains cable, it caused a temperature drift around 3 ° and unstable burner operation, about 30mv is induced in this cable, so better give a braided cable, but such a patent also works :)
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
    The c-mini sensor with the "termet" technique, as my colleagues wrote above, also works
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec


    What's your driver version?
  • #168 19090310
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    maliniak80 wrote:
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec


    So the version is the same. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? When should the button be pressed and how long should it be held?
    Maybe press the sensor first and then register in the controller?
  • #169 19090360
    maliniak80
    Level 17  
    Menu- settings - sensor type, the bird should be on radio, then you click registration, such dots scroll, then you press the switch in c-mini and the registration should pop up successfully, click OK You press this switch only for a moment, do not hold :)
  • #170 19090364
    prezes_kk
    Level 11  
    maliniak80 wrote:
    Menu - settings - sensor type, the bird should be on the radio, then you click registration, such dots scroll, then you press the switch in c-mini and registration should pop up successfully, click OK


    I do it too, but I have information that it failed :( Well, nothing probably sunk PLN 85
    I will try it again but I have already tried it a few times and nothing

    Edit:
    Managed to. I held this switch pressed for a long time and it was enough to press it briefly.

    Added after 19 [minutes]:

    Wojtermet25 wrote:
    And the controller connected to Lin is a comfort module and is available in Termet and stores that sell it.


    I jerked off on this comfort module.
    Today I connected to the boiler. After configuring and switching to the "Gateway" mode
    because the stove options are controlled by Tech ST-2801 in a dedicated application, not much can be set,
    and not much information about the boiler can be read (compared to the information from Techa).
    I thought it would be possible to read the data P1 to Px and possibly change it.
    I'm a bit disappointed.

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    PS2.
    Recently, I noticed (heard) that when changing the mode (1F boiler) from heating CH to DHW (changing the setting of the 3-way valve), such an overflow can be heard (at night it is quite loud). Is there air in the DHW circuit? How can I get rid of it? There are air vents next to the radiators (they only release water) and additionally there are 2 Afriso automatic vents on the first floor (they do not hiss, so they are not air-tight). In the radiators you can not hear anything that the water overflows during normal operation of the central heating and only when you turn the valve you can hear the overflow, which disappears when the valve is turned completely.
  • #171 19091707
    maliniak80
    Level 17  
    In general, the idea with the comfort module is not bad, they could attach some extended documentation to it, then who would like to communicate it with openhab or domoticz, although it should not be difficult for someone who wants it, but it would be such a nice nod to potential buyers
  • #172 19101315
    danielsam66
    Level 11  
    I have a problem with the R8810 bridge, after connecting to the stove, it limits the water temperature in the CO to 40 degrees, when I disconnect it returns to the setting on the boiler (60 degrees). The bridge is paired with the evohome regulator, but nowhere in the regulator settings can I find the CO water temperature parameters - where is it set?
  • #173 19183431
    Adamouse
    Level 1  
    This is my first post here, so good morning everyone to start.

    I have an Ecocondens Gold Plus boiler with a standard on / off room controller connected, but as we all know, the boiler supports open therm, so it's a bit of a waste of its potential, and as part of various home modernization works and widely understood domotics, I plan a slightly different path than standard controllers.
    I want to combine boiler control with Google Nest 3.
    The case looks simple (connecting the heatlink boiler instead of the current controller from RT to OT, connecting the thermostat on the old cables or by radio elsewhere - because the previous house owner installed the controller at the radiator, which seems to me a rather absurd place.
    And here I have two questions:
    1. Have any of you followed this path? Was he using Nest with Ecocondens Gold?
    2. Is the weather station still used with the Open Therm controller? Does it somehow affect the savings and / or comfort of heating? I don't have it now and I am wondering about the sensibility of installing it.
  • #174 19303640
    Janek Łowca Bramek
    Level 7  
    Adamouse wrote:
    This is my first post here, so good morning everyone to start.

    I have an Ecocondens Gold Plus boiler with a standard on / off room controller connected, but as we all know, the boiler supports open therm, so it's a bit of a waste of its potential, and as part of various home modernization works and broadly understood domotics, I plan a slightly different path than standard controllers.
    I want to combine boiler control with Google Nest 3.
    The connection case looks simple (connecting the heatlink boiler instead of the current controller from RT to OT, connecting the thermostat on the old cables or by radio elsewhere - because the previous house owner installed the controller at the radiator, which seems to me a rather absurd place.
    And here I have two questions:
    1. Have any of you followed this path? Was he using Nest with Ecocondens Gold?
    2. Is the weather station still used with the Open Therm controller? Does it somehow affect the savings and / or comfort of heating? I don't have it right now and I'm wondering about the sensibility of installing it.


    did you find something? I am also wondering about Nest, but I have doubts whether it is really worth paying so much for it.
  • #175 19417143
    olvap
    Level 11  
    Hello,
    If anyone can suggest something, I will be grateful.
    For several days, I have an ECOCONDENS PLUS 25KW 1F boiler room on board (so far it was without PLUS, the control is Auraton 26 ON / OFF and maneuvering heating curves using an external temperature sensor.
    Currently, I want to use the boiler control automatics a little better.
    The house is quite well insulated, the heating is made of only PURMO radiators (1 plate + ribs), the heated area is about 180 m2.
    I can assess that the power of the radiators, depending on the parameters of the supply / return / temperature in the reference room it is from 15 kW to 21 kW,
    for this DHW tank 120 l.
    Now a few questions;
    1) how to read what version of the boiler software I have
    2) how to read whether this boiler supports the full OpenTherm version
    3) Is the LIN protocol (I know I have one and there is a cable outlet) "smarter" than the OP
    4) Is the CR11011 controller full OP and PID? Does it show / draw graphs of boiler operation history
    5) or at the moment (my observation), it can be considered that the ST 2801 gives the most possibilities of controlling / setting the boiler from the controller level, of course, taking into account my uncomplicated installation.

    My observation is that; In order to properly control the boiler to the conditions we have at home and what we have expectations, it is necessary to observe the parameters on which the boiler works and what our thermal comfort is. This expectation for today probably corresponds to the ST 2801 drawing charts. Perhaps this Termet Comfort will also be OK, but today it is not rich and I do not know what the pace of its development will be.
    It's a bit difficult to sit by the boiler in the basement and the controller on the ground floor for a week and combine the settings.
  • #176 19417520
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    Hello.
    1) after power on, there will be a sequence of parameters on the display and B1 xx and B2 xx is the software version of the display and main boards
    2) supports OT and the drivers that get along with it, it is definitely CR 11011 and ST 2801, because Termet also branded them with its brand.
    3) I won't say anything because I haven't had a chance to check
    4) it is sufficient to operate the boiler, you can set a correction according to the room temperature. There are no charts and history.
    5) I think so
  • #177 19417812
    olvap
    Level 11  
    Thanks for the info and help.
    My firmware is b16.
  • #178 19421413
    gorny7
    Level 13  
    I have a question

    How do you leave the boiler for the summer period
    whether you set Summer Mode only heats DHW
    or just to lower the temperature Co, e.g. to 15C on the room controller (it will only turn on when the temperature in the house drops)
    technically there are any differences?
  • #180 19568430
    rowerzysta888
    Level 8  
    I have a Termet Gold Plus and I am looking for a controller that will allow me to control the temperature from the application level.
    What driver is the best for the moment? Most of the apartments have underfloor heating (manual thermostats). Does this boiler have any other "goodies" that help optimize heating expenses?

    best regards

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD Plus boiler and its compatibility with various controllers, particularly focusing on the Honeywell ROUND Wi-Fi Open-Therm controller. Users report issues with the boiler not responding to temperature settings, with suggestions including checking the mode settings (winter/summer), ensuring proper wiring, and verifying software versions. The conversation highlights the importance of using compatible controllers for optimal performance, with recommendations for alternatives like the PT52 and the Termet Comfort module, which allow for more advanced control features. Users express concerns about the limitations of certain controllers, particularly regarding modulation and remote control capabilities. The effectiveness of different controllers in managing heating curves and room temperatures is also debated, with emphasis on the need for proper configuration to achieve energy efficiency.
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