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Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec

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  • #92 18270394
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    I know that it works, probably 3 minutes when circulating to radiators, and much longer when circulating to the floor heating, how much? I didn't check it, but it took me quite a long time. In some termets it was possible to set this time, in Gold it is not possible?
    As for the modulation indication, I have not noticed it yet, but I do everything from the emodul level, and maybe it does not show it there.
    In tech, I have a screensaver set, but I will turn it off, maybe someday I will notice the% of yours, although on the other hand, if it does not work as it should, I do not know why I need it :)
    Maybe you need to drill a hole for IT specialists from techa, or maybe from a termet?

    edition
    After turning on the weather, a modulation icon appeared in my case
    For now, only dashes without indicating the value, but maybe these will also appear over time
    I wonder why, as you write, it shows once, sometimes not
    After uploading the new software, the weather station works very well for me
    It keeps the set temperature on the boiler and reacts to the set temperature on the room controller, i.e. turns off the heating after exceeding the set temperature, which was not so obvious before
    For now, I am very happy with the purchase of both the boiler and the controller
    The most exciting ;) remote control me from anywhere
    Yesterday I was not at home all day, so I lowered my room set to 22 degrees
    An hour before my return I turned 23 and when I got home it was 22.6
    The boiler heats up slowly even by the 1st one, but with a 40st power supply it is obvious
    However, the radiators were warm and the feeling of heat was very noticeable, even though it did not reach 23 degrees
    What more could there be, let it continue :)
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  • #93 18272097
    dacher
    Level 11  
    I am also happy, especially when I found out from you that you can connect an additional temperature sensor after WiFi because the current place in the corridor is not the happiest.
  • #94 18274058
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    From what I could observe, these indications of the% modulation of the burner appear in the form of a value when you put it in the burner
    Literally
    When __% is displayed, it means that the boiler is working at its minimum power, instead of dashes it should be 00
    When you give him a burner by increasing the preset boiler temperature in the curve from 40 to e.g. 50 ° C, after some time, about 30-60 seconds, instead of __ a numerical value appears. from reality, but these are my observations
    To sum up, when the boiler works with minimum power at low temperatures, instead of the% burner power value, we will see two lines, i.e. __% the boiler is blowing at minimum power

    edition
    And the button, my thoughts went to the head
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec

    As you can see, even at a low set point, the modulation value shows up, so I don't know what the kaman is about
    We're still with a hand in the potty :(
    On the other hand, you can see that the lower the boiler temperature, the lower the% modulation, but this is probably normal
  • #96 18277573
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    So I take it and I. This built-in bastard gets hot from the display.
  • #97 18281734
    simon007
    Level 11  
    I had this mini temperature sensor in the set, but it gives you register, I click on the back of the sensor, the diode is flashing, but I do not want to connect to 2801 someone had?
  • #98 18282420
    dacher
    Level 11  
    Well, it is difficult to connect, but still. You have to register, then briefly press the buttons and wait for success
    For me it combines and you can do it!
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  • #99 18300116
    simon007
    Level 11  
    finally connected and temp "pulls" from this additional sensor
    but I have a question
    I have a gas furnace that powers the heaters (open system) through the exchanger - behind the exchanger I have a pump how to control it so that it turns off when the furnace does not work or the temperature drops - where is the sensor on the supply to the exchanger from the boiler or supply to the heaters behind the exchanger?
    is there an external weather sensor for the termet gold boiler, but wireless?
  • #100 18300244
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    I'll start at the end. It is not possible to connect the external sensor wirelessly, only the cable remains, think, but maybe it is possible to locate it.
    And when it comes to controlling the pump after the exchanger, there is probably only a separate thermostat installed on the exchanger's power supply by the boiler.
    If one can ask, what is the reason for using the exchanger, because it means additional energy losses and less use of condensation.
    Edit.
    Another idea came to my mind, but at my own risk.
    You can see how the boiler pump is powered, whether the terminals are constantly powered or controlled by a relay (we are talking about power supply, not PWM regulation). If it is only when the pump is running, it could be used to power the relay that turns on the additional pump.
    But as I write, these are only my guesses and everyone "rummages" on their own responsibility ?
  • #101 18300255
    simon007
    Level 11  
    Well, I was looking for that too and there is nothing available, you will have to pull the cable
    As for the exchanger, the old house and I modernize in stages, at the moment the easiest and cheapest way was to connect to the old installation (the old one still has old coal)
    if the funds allow, the next stage will be the modernization of the installation and the gas connection without the exchanger
  • #102 18300275
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    I understand, sometimes you have to.
    Read the earlier answer because I wrote it.
  • #103 18300363
    simon007
    Level 11  
    The control from the boiler was viewed by the installer and unfortunately it is not possible - I bought a simple controller for central heating pumps
  • #104 18307603
    xbeny
    Level 2  
    Hello, I have installed the ROUND control package with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm (the boiler gate is R8810 a) with the termet ecocondens gold 20 boiler, I have a problem because the LED on the mentioned gate is flashing red all the time (the rest of the set plus the phone application rather works properly ) does not turn on the boiler. Does anyone have any idea what such blinking means.
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  • #105 18307712
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    I'll try to help, but I recommend watching the videos on YT about pairing the thermostat with the boiler gate.
    If I remember correctly, first delete the gate memory by long pressing this button until it changes to flashing green, and then holding the thermostat close, enter its programming by pressing in the lower middle part of the display for about 10 seconds until it appears and press again the connection signal strength will pop up and probably again to connect.
    I am not sure of the correctness of the description, but I know that it is nicely shown, although in a language I do not understand.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Please link https://youtu.be/efM__yjyggU
  • #107 18315421
    simon007
    Level 11  
    dacher wrote:
    I do not know if the overrun time can be set, but it certainly works because after turning off the burner, the pump works for a long time.
    By the way, you have to decide why it doesn't show modulation all the time


    and it is not the time% of pump operation and not modulation, so I looked at it (a short press of the reset button shows what% the pump is working with) and it is probably the% of pump operation

    as with these techa curves on p26 -1 or 3 I have curves on the stove flashing but with tech I can manage them - confusion
  • #108 18315457
    Wojtermet25
    Level 30  
    P26 on 3 is a setting for controllers that do not have their own weather algorithm (eg Round with an Open therm gate) and then the curves remain in the boiler. For other true OTs, the setting is 1.
  • #109 18316424
    simon007
    Level 11  
    and the first hours on the weather control hmm the curve is set that at 0 - 42st outside now 1st and the stove heats 46 or more hmm
    where does this difference come from? the chart shows that the supply temperature jumps significantly
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
  • #110 18316602
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    Well, setting the curve in this driver is not very accurate. The graph every 10 degrees and between it is set by eye
    I don't remember now, but by setting it directly on the controller, you can probably set it more precisely
    The curves in the boiler have a setting range of every 1st
    You need to write to the driver manufacturer to make a more detailed table :)

    For me, the boiler set is more stable than for you
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
  • #111 18316638
    simon007
    Level 11  
    what settings do you have (heating reduction, sensor influence, ...) DHW do you have at 40st?
    you set the curve on the boiler or on the controller (not emodul)
    on the emodul it is every 10 degrees but it should somehow increase at 0 - 42 degrees at -10 50 degrees but it only seems to me;
  • #112 18316661
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    Preset temperature from 5.00-23.00 22.6 degrees
    Night reduction at 22st
    Maximum set temperature 45 degrees
    Room temperature difference 1st
    Room hysteresis 0.1st
    The curve is set on the controller
    The boiler works practically 24 hours a day, with small breaks at night
    DHW at 35 degrees, so small because the sensor in the tank is low and the water is too hot when drawing
    I do not heat the tray at night
    Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD PLUS + ROUND with Wi-Fi - Open-Therm - connected incorrec
  • #113 18316808
    simon007
    Level 11  
    Well, these are similar settings - the boiler works through the exchanger for me, hence maybe such a strange temperature - next year, the next stage of modernization, the exchanger will probably fall out and the system will close
    not too low DHW temperature - you have the temporary heating turned on - Legionella bacteria, for which the optimal temperature for development is 38-42 ° C.
    You can throw in as you have the curve set;
    You also have Gold - entering the programming mode - you go into standby mode - turn off the power - turn on the power - immediately press the reset button and setting?
  • #114 18316846
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    I have a curve similar to yours
    I kill the bacteria by hand from time to time
  • #115 18316867
    simon007
    Level 11  
    lasekd wrote:
    I kill the bacteria by hand from time to time

    you can set the machine on the term
  • #116 18316917
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    Yes, I know, but I don't have time for that yet :)
  • #118 18317630
    lasekd
    Level 13  
    For me, it is also the case recently, when it was warmer he walked steadily. I'm wondering about it too, but now I'm renovating my kitchen and I can't think of it
  • #119 18338733
    Tiesto83
    Level 11  
    Does anyone know anything about the interface from the Tester, which was to be dedicated to the Termet and connect to it via the line input?
    They showed at the fair, said the price would be right ... and silence.
  • #120 18340027
    dacher
    Level 11  
    The interface, of course, is: MDS 01, but Termet sells, no matter why, only to its service technicians ?
    After all, service parameters can be changed practically and without it!
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The discussion centers on integrating the Honeywell ROUND Wi-Fi OpenTherm controller with the Termet ECOCONDENS GOLD Plus boiler. Initial connection issues arise because the ROUND controller is primarily designed for ECOCONDENS CRYSTAL boilers and requires power from the boiler, whereas the GOLD Plus boiler supports OpenTherm only with controllers having independent power supplies (e.g., Auraton). The GOLD Plus boiler firmware versions impact OpenTherm functionality: versions prior to week 26 of 2018 lack full OpenTherm support, while versions b11, b12, and b14 progressively improve compatibility and fix bugs such as improper boiler shutdown and modulation display. Firmware updates can be performed by sending control boards to authorized service centers. The OpenTherm gateway in the ROUND Wi-Fi controller acts as a limited "prosthesis," not fully implementing the OpenTherm protocol, which affects features like weather curve control and remote modulation. Parameter P26 in the boiler software governs weather function modes, with values 1 and 3 determining whether heating curves are controlled by the room controller or the boiler. Users report that setting P26 to 3 enables the controller's curves to influence boiler operation, including proper heating shutdown after reaching set room temperatures. The ST-2801 Wi-Fi controller from Tech is noted for better OpenTherm integration and supports firmware updates via USB or network. Additional components discussed include Salus RT520 and ElektroBock PT52 thermostats, with mixed experiences regarding OpenTherm compatibility and features. The Sonoff Wi-Fi relay can be used as a simple on/off controller by bridging boiler contacts, enabling remote heating activation without full OpenTherm functionality. External wireless temperature sensors are not supported by Termet boilers; only wired sensors can be connected. Users emphasize the importance of authorized installation and exhaust gas analysis for warranty and safety. The discussion also touches on pump control behind heat exchangers and the limitations of current OpenTherm implementations in Termet GOLD Plus boilers, highlighting ongoing firmware development and the need for clearer documentation.
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