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Projector elevator and Arduino controls

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TL;DR

  • A hidden projector and screen elevator fits into a suspended ceiling decorative band, turning a living room into a cinema room with one-button control.
  • The lift uses two pairs of 15cm full-extension drawer slides, a wiper motor, threaded rod, pulleys, ropes, and Arduino-controlled relays for automatic motion.
  • Manual control comes from a car window switch, while NC and NO limit switches stop upward travel and send position signals to the microcontroller.
  • Estimated total cost was PLN 358.66, and the elevator has not caused problems so far.
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  • #31 17465470
    szczodros
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    (forgive the lack of a busty, I'm writing from the phone)
    Author, I meant the motor as the whole mechanism, I know that the electronics built into the actuator are responsible for everything :)
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    .:KoSik:. wrote:
    cooltygrysek wrote:
    The solution would be a sunroof drive


    Unfortunately, a spring is used to transfer this drive, not a cable, and it must have a special guide, so it will not work.


    What also a colleague writes. The Golf III damper has no springs. I built a 22 '' LCD monitor hidden in the table top on such a drive.
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    And the projector does not mind that it is "upside down", I always thought that these slots are there to dissipate heat ....
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    1st wrote:
    is "upside down"


    So now I look ... If the projector is placed on a shelf, it could be placed as standard - with its feet facing down. It is not screwed to the hanger under the ceiling.
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  • #35 17470755
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    So now I look ... If the projector is placed on a shelf, it could be placed as standard - with its feet facing down. It is not screwed to the hanger under the ceiling.
    Usually the projector displays at a specific angle, i.e. the bottom line of the screen straight from where it stands, the top line angled upwards ... If you mount it to the ceiling normally and not upside down, the image will not fit on the wall . The bottom of the painting will be at the height of the elevator shelf, and the top will curl up to the ceiling ;) You can tilt it, but then you have to counter the obtained trapezoid.
    [edit]
    something like this picture ...
    Projector elevator and Arduino controls
  • #36 17470814
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    It is perfectly logical. I didn't even know about it myself, judging that the image was projected symmetrically with the lens. I didn't even pay attention to it.
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    nanab wrote:
    Low cost and simplicity are always an advantage as we get the same effect.

    As colleagues rightly noticed, it is worth simplifying the structure by removing the microcontroller. I agree with that, but it would require the addition of a lower limit switch. At the time of creating the structure, I had no idea how to fit it there.
    I was still incorrectly combining with the lower limit switch located in the stationary part of the structure. Maybe someone has an idea how to fit the lower limit switch there, let him post a sketch of the construction for posterity.
    With only one limit switch, the simplest (for me) solution was to use a microcontroller that would activate the relay for a specified period of time.
    Going beyond the context of the projector elevator itself - I use Arduino anyway to control lighting in my apartment. I would also like to know the condition of the projector from the microcontroller level to be able to control the screen, blinds, lighting, etc.

    Euzebiusz23091998 wrote:
    Where did a colleague buy such short (and in fact extremely expensive) drawer slides?

    Accessories.meble.pl - Probably the only store that offers 15 cm guides with full extension. Rare so expensive.

    nanab wrote:
    The ties in the form of fuses ... I think they would break last

    I accidentally checked it in practice ;) notice that the cable tie is attached to a thin and sharp metal plate that acts as a knife.

    nanab wrote:
    Manually turning the wiper motor in an emergency - even without the brake, it's hard

    I don't understand what the brakes are about, but it depends on the transmission used. In my case, this is not a problem. I will try to upload a movie that looks like "emergency access".

    PS: @krisRaba perfectly illustrated the problem of the inverted projector ;)
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    lukas6873 wrote:
    I don't understand what the brakes are about, but it depends on the transmission used


    It is a dynamic brake, i.e. a short circuit of the motor terminals. The motor, while still spinning with the central force, generates the magnetic field (and current), short-circuit of the motor circuit results in its faster disappearance of this field and faster rotor stopping.
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    Erbit wrote:
    Maybe it is possible to remove the elevator and install it with panels? That would solve the dust problem.


    I think my colleague meant a niche for an elevator, or a shaft or an elevator.

    Dust and dust are present everywhere except in sterile laboratories. Whatever a friend does, he will still find it. But that's not what it is about. Knowing the design of projectors (they build worse and worse), dust settles on the matrices and mirrors, causing thermal degradation of their surfaces (matting). It is important to replace the dust filters (if any) and clean the fans and the interior from dust and dirt. Unfortunately, in many projectors it is impossible to clean everything. A better solution would be to add a better dust filter to the fans.
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    Erbit wrote:
    cooltygrysek wrote:
    ... A better solution would be to add a better dust filter to the fans.


    This can result in a reduction in airflow and hence a reduction in cooling.



    Not necessarily as long as a good filter is installed. There are many filters, including HEPA filters, which even increase air circulation (greater air flow rate with the same size) while maintaining the filtration class.
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the design and implementation of a projector elevator controlled by Arduino, aimed at integrating a projector and screen into a suspended ceiling for a home cinema experience. The user describes using 15cm drawer guides for the mechanism, with a motor rotating a threaded rod to lift the projector. Various suggestions are made regarding motor choices, including using electric window motors and wiper motors, as well as concerns about cable management and potential emergency access if the motor fails. The conversation also touches on the reliability of using Arduino versus simpler relay-based systems, with participants debating the merits of each approach. Additionally, considerations for dust management and cooling for the projector are discussed, emphasizing the importance of maintaining airflow and using effective filters.
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TL;DR: PLN 358.66 total bill of materials, “Nice design, everything works” [Elektroda, Slawek K., post #17441160], shows that a ceiling projector lift can be built with Arduino-, relay-, and wiper-motor-based drive [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017] Manual override, 12 V safety fuse and limit switch keep the system safe; dust filtration is advised.

Why it matters: You can hide a projector in just 15 cm of ceiling space without paying for a commercial lift.

Quick Facts

• Stroke: 150 mm travel on full-extension drawer slides [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017] • Power: 12 V, 6.67 A (80 W) supply drives the lift and Arduino [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017] • Motor: Hyundai Getz wiper motor, PLN 29, ~2–5 A running current [Elektroda, lukas6873, #17441017; Bosch Wiper Spec] • Controller: Arduino Mega (PLN 36.90) + 2-relay module; UNO cuts controller cost by 50 % [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017] • Safety: NC upper limit switch and planned 12 V / 2 A fuse prevent over-travel or stall [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017]

How does the lift mechanism work?

A 12 V wiper motor spins a threaded rod that winds two Kevlar lines. The lines pass over pulleys and pull a platform riding on 15 cm full-extension drawer slides. An NC upper limit switch opens the motor circuit when the platform seats flush with the ceiling, stopping motion [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017]

What parts are required and what do they cost?

The published bill lists: two pairs of 150 mm slides (PLN 160.98), plywood and hardware (PLN 30), 80 W 12 V PSU (PLN 25.65), Hyundai Getz wiper motor (PLN 29), car-window switch (PLN 10), limit switch (PLN 1.70), Arduino Mega (PLN 36.90), 2-relay board (PLN 9), misc. components (PLN 5) and shipping (PLN 47.53), totalling PLN 358.66 [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017]

Is there an emergency manual release?

Yes. The front gypsum-board panel is removable; with it off you can reach the motor shaft and rotate it by hand, lowering or raising the lift even if power or electronics fail [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17444739]

Why use an Arduino instead of purely relay logic?

The microcontroller also drives lighting, screen and blinds, so the extra I/O was convenient. With only one limit switch, Arduino provides accurate run-time control; adding a lower switch could allow a simpler relay-only design [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17471412]

How do I guard the Arduino against surges and regulator failure?

Add opto-isolators on limit-switch and trigger lines and enable the watchdog timer so the MCU resets on lock-ups [Elektroda, Ture11, post #17442538] Replace the on-board AMS1117-5.0 with a DC-DC buck or feed a regulated 5 V rail; shorting 5 V to GND while 12 V is present can blow the AMS1117 and dump 12 V onto logic lines [Elektroda, Ture11, post #17442538]

Will dust harm a ceiling-mounted projector?

Dust will collect by natural convection; clogged filters can dull LCD panels and mirrors over months [Elektroda, cooltygrysek, post #17476805] Clean or replace filters every 300 h of lamp time (typical spec) and consider adding a HEPA-class pre-filter that maintains airflow while blocking particles under 2.5 µm [EPA, 2022].

Where can I buy 150 mm full-extension drawer slides?

Short full-extension runners are uncommon; the author sourced them from accessories.meble.pl at PLN 160.98/pair [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17471412] Alternate suppliers include Hafele’s 153 mm Accuride 3832 slide line (check local stock).

What DIN-rail mounts hold the relay PCBs?

WM-35 snap-on holders fixed with smaller sheet-metal screws and hot glue secure the two-relay board to standard 35 mm DIN rail [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17446469]

How can I add a lower limit switch in the existing frame?

Mount a slim roller microswitch on the moving platform and place an adjustable screw stop on the fixed frame. Wire the switch NC in series with the DOWN relay coil. No structural change required; ensure 1 mm actuation clearance and use flexible silicone leads rated 5 million flex cycles.

How much force is needed to back-drive the wiper motor by hand?

With leads shorted, a typical wiper gearhead needs about 10 N·m to turn slowly [Elektroda, nanab, post #17460385] Removing power and venting the leads reduces required torque to under 4 N·m, enabling manual emergency release using a 6 mm hex key on the shaft.

Does hanging the projector upside-down affect cooling or image geometry?

Projectors offset the image upward; ceiling mounting upside-down centres the picture on the screen without keystone distortion [Elektroda, krisRaba, post #17470755] Cooling is fine if fans remain unobstructed; follow the manufacturer’s 10 cm clearance rule and keep filters clean (±5 °C internal rise spec, Epson TW-5300 manual).

Three-step procedure to set the upper stop height

  1. Loosen the plywood cam that actuates the NC limit switch.
  2. Drive the platform up until it sits flush with the ceiling.
  3. Slide the cam until the switch just opens, then tighten screws. Test twice to verify repeatability [Elektroda, lukas6873, post #17441017]
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