Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

Eidems wrote:

I can see that the competition is sleeping, and Allegro introduces free courier shipping for purchases over PLN 100 with Allegro smart

I don't know if you noticed but Smart does not exist on Allegro Locally ...

Szyszkownik Kilkujadek wrote:

Eidems wrote:

I can see that the competition is sleeping, and Allegro introduces free courier shipping for purchases over PLN 100 with Allegro smart

I don't know if you noticed but Smart does not exist on Allegro Locally ...

I don't see a need for it to be there as competition doesn't offer used items unless it's an outlet.

Eidems wrote:

Szyszkownik Kilkujadek wrote:

Eidems wrote:

I can see that the competition is sleeping, and Allegro introduces free courier shipping for purchases over PLN 100 with Allegro smart

I don't know if you noticed but Smart does not exist on Allegro Locally ...

I don't see a need for it to be there as competition doesn't offer used items unless it's an outlet.

There are companies that sell used equipment.

How many times have I bought some interesting surplus items from a company on Allegro.

A colleague will look at the tube market. You can easily buy used lamps for decades using the SMART package.

pawelr98 wrote:

You can easily buy used lamps for decades using the SMART package.

Military surplus, pawnshops, exhibition equipment, post-service equipment, post-leasing equipment, etc. I have bought laptops, scanners, etc. many times myself - used, but on invoice. There is a lot of it.

About "Gracious" they found:

Well done, we'll do Allegro2
What for ?
I'm asking

Because they can, and most people don't even care.

Or maybe persuade the electrode to take over those dissatisfied with Allegro?

lle ... Lok .... is a big lame and will not work like this for a long time and, among other things, at my expense, he is doing the experiment himself, the beta itself proves that it does not work as it should. I wanted to edit the auction in order to correct errors (typos), it turns out that you can not. I checked through Allegro and saw that no one is bidding, I broke the auction (it lasted about 2 hours) it turns out that someone had bid. Of course, I was informed about it when I re-issued the revised version. And the scandal came out, I broke the second one, of course, after checking if someone had bid. It turns out that this sham sale procedure charged me 2 times 50 PLN and left me with the problem of clarifying and easing the matter of the buyers. After all the attempts to refund the commission, I found out that no matter that the transaction did not take place, the fee is non-refundable. And then get lost, I don't like it, I can not issue it. After sixteen years on the Allegro they made an idiot of me. And they laugh that the rabbit tests work.
It seems to me that the edition is the basic function that allows you to improve the auction announcement, but the button is not working and bang 50 in the back.
One big linden.

AL is another proof of a complete detachment from reality not only of the so-called political "elites" but also of business.

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to interest the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection after the auction was interrupted.

Novile wrote:

I was surprised myself, because every time I tried to bid on AL, it suddenly turned out that someone else also bid at the same moment. Like a price-raising machine. Is there any edge here sometimes?

It's normal on Allegro. It's just that someone previously gave a larger amount, but the one shown at the auction is, for example, a few zlotys higher than the previous one. It's probably normal here on Lokalna. How many clicks are displayed on the auction.

Brivido wrote:

Novile wrote:

I was surprised myself, because every time I tried to bid on AL, it suddenly turned out that someone else also bid at the same moment. Like a price-raising machine. Is there any edge here sometimes?

It's normal on Allegro. It's just that someone previously gave a larger amount, but the one shown at the auction is, for example, a few zlotys higher than the previous one. It's probably normal here on Lokalna. How many clicks are displayed on the auction.

Exactly. The auction method with the maximum price option worked on the Allegro. So the buyer stated that he could pay a maximum of PLN 1,000 and he did not want to watch over the auction. Then the amount was raised by the minimum amount and allegro remembered your maximum. When someone beat it from the machine, your offer went up to the set maximum without your participation.

It was a brilliant solution and that's what I miss on the Allegro locally. I don't know about you, but I don't want to wake up at 2 am to check if someone outbid me a moment before the end of the auction. Let's hope they will throw it on the allegro locally.

This portal is becoming more and more discouraging

A good solution for buyers, but not for sellers

Brivido wrote:

A good solution for buyers,

It depends on what the buyers are buying (what they are hunting for),
if they buy new Chinese smartphone covers it's good,
and if old porcelain cups like https://www.facebook.com/malgorzata.nikolska
it's unfortunately NOT good :-(

And on such rubbish
https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3636901.html#18313635
Allegro probably flips the biggest cash.

Forum members.

What you call / call the local allegro commission (max PLN 50) is not - it is a non-returnable transaction handling fee.

Also, be careful because if someone buys something and does not pay, there is no return!

Now you have to consider whether it is worth putting up buy now ...

Also look from the other perspective ... You put up the goods, someone wins. He pays and you click "transaction failed", the buyer ignores the e-mail from Allegro or replies that it was not successful and the commission returns.

That's right.
Just take into account now that for such buy now they charge money from the machine and do not care whether someone paid or not.
I used to have 4 clicks buy now and no response - the commission was coming back, but I sold one item for about a month.
Take now pay commission from "someone else's fun".

I understand it perfectly, there is always one side that can potentially be wronged. Unfortunately, in this case, Allegro chose a model that was favorable to them, and not to the seller.

hindoos wrote:

I understand it perfectly, there is always one side that can potentially be wronged. Unfortunately, in this case, Allegro chose a model that was favorable to them, not for the seller.

How can the model be beneficial for the seller? This is absurd. After all, it is the customer who wants to put the money in, not the seller.

Before, there were situations like the one below:
You bought something on the Allegro, you paid by bank transfer in advance or via pay or cash on delivery, the goods arrived but, for example, something completely different than was ordered or damaged. The seller did not answer e-mails or did not answer the phone. You show him a negative - according to the rules in force, to warn others - and he "awards" you with a negative. I'm asking for what? Since you met all the terms of the contract scrupulously. He has no grounds for issuing a negative. All he can do is apologize for the inconvenience, return the money or replace the goods. Indeed, under national law, he is responsible for the goods he sends. There can be no fault with the customer that the seller is a cabbage noodle!

It was a common pathology, caused by someone inventing the possibility of rating a client! Well, he doesn't judge the client. The customer buys, thinks, grimaces because he decides what he wants to spend his money on. Under no circumstances can the seller decide about this.

So the removal of the possibility of assessing the client by Allegro was correct and correct in my opinion, although in fact, it should never be such a possibility. It is not a commune to implement the principle of "we do not serve these customers".

Now it is normal, as it should be - the market, that is, the customer, rules. I get the wrong thing or the wrong one, I describe the situation, I give it a negative and already head to the seller to meet the customer's requirements. If I do my job, I can even delete the negative - which I have had the pleasure to do more than once, to the benefit of both parties.

^ToM^ wrote:

How can the model be beneficial for the seller?

The favorable model for the seller is that when he points out that the transaction has not been concluded, he gets the commission back.

^ToM^ wrote:

Therefore, the removal of the possibility of assessing the client by Allegro was correct and right in my opinion

Well, not really ... Because sometimes retaliation comes from the other side. In general, it gave some opportunity to build the credibility of your own opinion. For example, I am selling without downloading, but a person who would like to download is writing to me because she is in a hurry. If I saw that she had a lot of positive comments from sellers, I could go along with her. When buyers have no history, it is not known whether it is beetroot, which "will collect it if he has money, and if not, not" or the competition that buys your goods to freeze your warehouse and expose you to costs.

cichy koksik wrote:

Just take into account now that for such buy now they charge money from the machine and do not care whether someone paid or not.
I used to have 4 clicks buy now and no response - the commission was coming back, but I sold one item for about a month.
Take now pay commission from "someone else's fun".

I do not really understand...
Suppose that you have displayed 10 pieces of something for PLN 500, i.e. if someone wants to get rid of the competition, it is enough that he will buy your items for PLN 500 each 10 times, which gives 10 x PLN 50 commission = PLN 500 and you are to pay despite the fact that someone did that for the balls? Or maybe even an Allegro employee because it is their money after all. I do not believe...

It is probably not exactly as you write here, quote from AL help: "We will charge the fee only when the buyer pays in advance for the purchase or completes the delivery form in the case of a cash on delivery shipment. Just clicking buy now will not be charged."
If you do not include cash on delivery in the shipping options, the commission will be charged only after the payment has been made. This is a bit better than on a regular allegro, because, as you know, the commission is charged immediately after the auction is finished or after clicking buy now, regardless of whether the buyer pays or not.
Which does not mean that I am delighted with AL, on the contrary, I am very disgusted. On the likes of me Allegro has grown, for well over 15 years I have been an active user, both buyers and sellers; over 1000 positive comments and 1 neutral, which after all went to scratch because of a brilliant change probably 2 years ago, and was an excellent indicator of credibility. There were plenty of such changes for the worse.

I confirm, with this deletion of all comments they did a good job. I will not say it was quite a tangible blow.

^ToM^ wrote:

So the removal by Allegro from the possibility of assessing the customer was correct and correct in my opinion, although in fact, it should never be such a possibility.

Client scoring was needed when All was a portal auction . It was possible to opt out of the offer of all sorts of jokers who bid for fun and did not pay for the auctioned artifacts.
Ever since it became a platform for stores - indeed, customer evaluation is a bad idea.

But this is not the end of the changes, they continue to combine:
"You are receiving this message because you are using software whose order processing methods will be disabled on January 13, 2020.
How to prepare for the change?
Make sure the author of the software or the person responsible for its technical maintenance is aware of the changes we have announced. Based on this, confirm that it has planned to move to the newer solution.
What happens if you don't react?
If you do not take any action, from January 13, 2020 your software will not handle orders from Allegro. "
I don't use API but there will be no cabaret, there will be Choir ...

Added after 7 [hours] 16 [minutes]:

I found something like this
And they wrote a lot of truth:
Link
I will quote:
"Unfortunately, it seems that Allegro not only conceptually returned to the early 2000s, but also technologically. Dissatisfied users - sellers write to the WP Tech editorial office that the service of the new website deprives them of their desire to sell on Allegro Lokalnie."

This is true.
Interestingly, the Allegro explains there that it will not be better, etc ...
I am asking what is allegro locally? This division Company - Private person could be done with one peanut on the Allegro itself and we have a filter.

I leave the rest without comment, everyone knows how everyone is, not allegro but what are the monopolists, so they do what they want.

Now it is a monopolist, but if it continues like this, it will collapse. Nokia has collapsed, Windows Mobile has collapsed, Altavista has collapsed, and many more. Even those introduced by huge companies with enormous financial resources.