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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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  • #421 18317897
    bolekis
    Level 35  
    Test the link
    https://allegro.pl/offer/?lokalnie
    It appears as text under the A / AL selection squares when adding an offer.
    Contrary to its name, it leads to the old Allegro listing form.
    This afternoon he put up 2 auctions under the old rules
    in a department other than automotive / real estate (computer games specifically).
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  • #422 18317913
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    This link was working all the time but now it's officially back:
    Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?
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  • #423 18318188
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    bolekis wrote:
    Test the link
    https://allegro.pl/offer/?lokalnie
    It appears as text under the A / AL selection squares when adding an offer.
    Contrary to its name, it leads to the old Allegro listing form.
    This afternoon he put up 2 auctions under the old rules
    in a department other than automotive / real estate (computer games specifically).

    You haven't discovered America :D A month ago I wrote about it https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3628219.html#18258295
    In fact, it has now officially appeared.
  • #424 18318526
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    In fact either a mistake (allegro) or see that something has not cracked.
    We will see in time ...

    Added after 2 [hours] 3 [minutes]:

    And so recently Allegro removed the so-called shipping time from the seller's information, i.e. another element of the ziuu assessment, now you will have to knock down the seller AT CUSTOMER SERVICE.
    I am curious when the geniuses from the Allegro will remove the rating system at all (because it is better for them) and we will buy at random and then the prayers will not come in a day or a year.
  • #425 18318635
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    Shipping time has been removed because transit time was often assessed rather than shipping time. People didn't know it, and the delivery time doesn't depend on the seller. In addition, the system automatically tracks the time of sending based on the tracking number.
  • #426 18318655
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    And what interests me is that it is the deliverer's fault, as long as I do not have the parcel in my hand, it is the seller's broch. Let him not send such grandfathers.
    Well, they could divide this rating into shipping time and delivery time, and it was a very good "rating" for courier companies.
    But why would it hurt the Allegro itself, it is better not to remove it, but to do what it is all about locally.
  • #427 18318740
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    It can be different with these grandfathers ... it is difficult to blame the seller for the fact that, for example, the selected courier company in a given city has long delays, while in another city it can work great.
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  • #428 18318784
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Well, you are right, but you have to comb them systematically.
    Well, no one will divide the names by surnames.
    Although there are firems (I will not mention the name) where you are calling, they will not give the phone NO BO NO. And the courier may contact, but does not have to.
    And not everyone has time to chase after the Couriers.
    And such companies need to be assessed.
  • #429 18318901
    tomku77
    Level 12  
    max-bit wrote:
    And such companies need to be assessed.


    I don't understand why you say that "fireworks" have to be judged? Rather, each seller offers several shipping options and it's up to you what exactly you decide. Give the rating to the "firemce" for the fact that, for example, it was sent immediately after the payment, and the carrier you chose played in .uja? The seller's shipping options do not suit you, do not buy. You have a strange approach ...
  • #430 18318924
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    tomku77 wrote:
    Rather, each seller offers several shipping options

    Not always - sometimes it is "courier or pickup in person". And the courier of company X, which is a company with us, because its employee has a negative motivation to do their tasks well. I have this, for example, with Poczta Polska, where there are some strange organizational movements and at the post office I was told directly that "they do not know where my parcel is, but if they ever find it they will call". Anyway, probably everyone has a carrier that fails along the entire line and if we want the package to arrive in a finite time and intact, he will choose an alternative (if it is).
  • #431 18318935
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    It does not change the fact that these companies have to be assessed.
    Just such an approach, let's not judge anything, let's not put negative comments on them, it means that they do not do anything about it.
    If there were 30% of negative opinions on one or the other and the phone or the system with orders would be silent, it would straighten them. And this is how we make you, losers, and so pay you.
    PANIALI?
  • #432 18318945
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    So you need to add a courier rating system on Allegro. All in all, a good idea. Such courier companies need to be assessed.
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  • #433 18318962
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Allegro will not do it because it would be harmful to them (read cash, bear).
    Even more so if they had signed contracts and you know they do.
  • #434 18318974
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    There are such evaluation systems, for example in Opineo, but the problem lies elsewhere, as he wrote about @tzok . In city A, the courier company X will work great and Y will work hopeless. In city B, company X will fulfill its duties tragically, while Y will be brilliant. And what opinions will appear?

    > X is hopeless, grade 1/5
    > Y is unknown, grade 1/5

    What information value will this give us? Well, unfortunately, negligible.
  • #435 18319001
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    You are right, but it shows something globally. There are no miracles.
    Of course, with courier companies it is so that in one housing estate where the courier goes, X is great and on the other (next to it) it is ....
    I know, but it is not done differently.
    Then it is a broch of companies.

    Added after 5 [hours] 19 [minutes]:

    I just got an e-mail from Allegro:

    You can list them on Allegro.pl again using the previous form
    AT....
    How cool ?
    and next :
    "Now you can list both via the simplified Allegro Lokalnie form and on Allegro.pl - just like before. Just use the option that suits you best. You can choose the type of issuing form here."
    Meanwhile, we are constantly developing Allegro Lokalnie. In the last month, we introduced, among others:
    - zooming in on photos in the gallery
    - auctions lasting 7 days
    - the ability to sort ads by distance from the buyer
    Soon we will also introduce:
    -possibility to add many photos at the same time in the issuing form
    the option to highlight ads
    -more information about the auctions, including the number of bidders
    - notification for buyers about outbidding the offer in the auction
    the ability to observe ads by buyers
    best regards
    Allegro team

    E ... that is, they continue their way into the swamp, they form the second allegro.
    Total nonsense.
    But although you can see that it is not "pykło", so maybe they will get tired for a few more months and this project will die because it has to die.
    For now, we can (they have not written what next) take a breath and exhibit in the old way.
    Anyway, the competition would be useful to heal the auction market because from its beginnings there was no competition, and that's very bad.
  • #436 18324308
    SZYMON BYDGOSZCZ
    Level 38  
    eeepiotr wrote:
    It seems to me that the edition is the basic function that allows you to improve the auction announcement, but the button is not working and bang 50 in the back.


    And it is very good that during the BIDDING, editing the content of the auction does not work.

    For example, I BID an item in perfect condition 5 days before the end of the auction - I give 1000 PLN and leave it - and some combinator the seller changes the content of the auction to good or damaged condition and after a few days I win the goods not as described at the time of my BID.

    Please don't be confused with the BUY NOW auction.
  • #437 18325115
    astralski
    Level 10  
    This is not the point, editing the content of the auction after submitting an offer has never been possible on the Allegro, and certainly for a long time, the point is that you cannot cancel offers on AL, on a regular allegro, if someone has already made a bid on the allegro, you could always cancel the offers and the content of the auction could be improved, a reason could be given, eg "change of description" and interested parties could bid again. At AL you can end the bidding only with submitted bids, they cannot be canceled. Sick. If you, for example, apologize to you, someone steals the item you are selling or it breaks down or many other situations may cause you to withdraw the auction (e.g. you will sell it elsewhere), then you cannot on AL. This is some giant poplin.
  • #438 18325595
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    ... depends on whether it is from the buyer's or seller's point of view. As I understand the regulations, if the only form of payment is payment by PayU, then if the customer does not pay you money, they will not charge a commission and the transaction will be considered null and void.
  • #439 18327405
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    tomku77 wrote:
    I do not really understand...
    Suppose that you have displayed 10 pieces of something for PLN 500, i.e. if someone wants to get rid of the competition, it is enough that he will buy your items for PLN 500 each 10 times, which gives 10 x PLN 50 commission = PLN 500 and you are to pay despite the fact that someone did that for the balls? Or maybe even an Allegro employee because it is their money after all. I do not believe...

    You don't have to believe, neither did I, but it is.
    I sold 2 items - buy now - one payment by PayU, the second by collection and in both cases there is no form for a commission refund.
    Anyway, go alone.
    Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?
  • #440 18327436
    tomku77
    Level 12  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    I sold 2 items - buy now - one payment by PayU, the second by collection and in both cases there is no form for a commission refund.


    Well, but you had PayU paid? If so, that's right. And for the cash on delivery option it is normal not to share. Everything is correct.
  • #441 18327439
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    The question is whether the fee has been collected? According to the regulations, in the case of payments by PayU, it is charged after the payment is registered.
  • #442 18327446
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    tomku77 wrote:
    Well, but you had PayU paid?

    No, there was no payment. Cash on delivery.
    tzok wrote:
    The question is whether the fee has been collected?

    Yes, it has been downloaded.
    Please note that payment on delivery. You have a screenshot with a response from Allegro.
  • #443 18327464
    tomku77
    Level 12  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    No, there was no payment. Cash on delivery.


    I do not fully understand ...

    If you had paid by PayU, they charge a non-returnable commission, and in the second case you have made the cash on delivery option available, then they also charge a non-refundable commission. Cash on delivery cannot be shared! I think everything is correct, I don't understand something ...
  • #444 18327479
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #445 18327482
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    tomku77 wrote:
    and in the second case, you have made the cash on delivery option available, then they also charge a non-refundable commission

    I do not understand because I write like this and then
    tomku77 wrote:
    Cash on delivery cannot be shared!

    So what do you mean?
    The cash on delivery option was possible and this is how the buyer chose - payment on delivery.

    Added after 6 [minutes]:

    Novile wrote:
    And very well! Your choice.

    Which I do not regret because instead of paying over PLN 100 I paid PLN 50 because there was another buyer.
    Novile wrote:
    And I had to pay the ciulom twice, otherwise I would have waited for the debt collector and I would have paid with sanctions anyway.

    Do not blame the allegro because of your inattention and be glad that the other buyer did not cause you problems.
  • #446 18327495
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    Someone is dark here and probably does not know their own rules ...
    Quote:
    Part IV A. Payments in Allegro Locally

    In the case of concluding a sale agreement via an Advertisement with the "Buy Now" option or an Advertisement with the auction option, a fee is charged for handling the Transaction by Allegro.pl. The fee is charged to the Seller and amounts to 10% of the price of the Goods which the sale concerned, but not more than PLN 50.

    The fee is charged at the moment of concluding the Transaction as defined in Annex 13 "Allegro Lokalnie" . The conclusion of the Transaction is confirmed by e-mail from Allegro.pl.


    Quote:
    Article 5. Transactions made as part of Advertisements

    (...)

    5.2. Transactions made under the Announcement with the "Buy Now" option are concluded on time :

    and) in the case of payment of the price via the payment methods specified in Art. 5.7. second sentence of the Regulations: payment of the purchase price by the Buyer; in the case of failure to make the payment within 5 days from the date of the transaction - for any reason - no sales contract is concluded as part of a given Allegro Lokally Listing ; a given Advertisement with the "Buy Now" option is re-published for the time remaining until the expiry of the Advertisement at the time of using the "Buy Now" option;

    b) in the case of cash on delivery or cash on delivery: upon completion and approval of the delivery form.

    5.3. Transactions made under the Listing with Auction are concluded momentarily :

    and) in the case of payment of the price via the methods specified in Art. 5.7. second sentence of the Regulations: payment of the purchase price by the Buyer; in the case of failure to make the payment within 5 days from the date of the transaction - for any reason - no sales contract is concluded as part of a given Allegro Lokally Listing ; the given Bid with Bidding will be re-published for 10 days, if highlighted, otherwise it will be re-published 10 days after the Seller has selected the appropriate option;

    b) in the case of cash on delivery or cash on delivery: upon completion and approval of the delivery form.

    5.4. Failure to make the payment within the above-mentioned deadlines by the Buyer results in the termination of the sales contract .


    Unfortunately, this is somewhat inconsistent with:

    Quote:
    Section 4. Ad with Buy Now option and Ads with auction

    (...)

    4.9. The transaction under the Advertisement with auction is concluded at the time of the expiry of the time allocated for the auction - taking into account the possibility of extending this time on the terms set out in this Art. 4. - with the User who submitted the highest bid during the auction.


    ... but Art. 5 is after Art. 4 so it "overwrites" it in a way.
  • #447 18327512
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    So it's ok.
    My entry was only information for those who sell cash on delivery.
    Previously, this was not the case, so it's worth knowing not to give this option anymore.
  • #448 18327538
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    I studied the regulations and pasted as above, anyway according to their own regulations, no transaction took place, so the fee should not be charged unless the buyer has completed the delivery form and chose cash on delivery in it. In this case, the transaction is considered valid. There is only a difference between bidding / clicking buy now, and doing the above-mentioned and then filling out the delivery form.
  • #449 18327540
    miroslaw wielki
    Conditionally unlocked  
    From January 2, 2018, I saved PLN 410 on shipments with this smart one. For now, it may be allegro.
  • #450 18327543
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    tzok wrote:
    5.2. Transactions made as part of an Advertisement with the "Buy Now" option are concluded as of:
    tzok wrote:
    upon completion and approval of the delivery form.

    The form was completed and nothing else, so according to the regulations, the fee was charged accordingly.
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," a new, separate platform by Allegro aimed at private sellers, distinct from the main Allegro site which is increasingly focused on business accounts. Users report significant usability issues with Allegro Lokalnie, including limited photo uploads (maximum five), a restricted and basic description editor, lack of delivery price list integration, and absence of features like "show similar" items. The platform enforces a flat 10% commission on sales, which many consider excessive, especially for private sellers accustomed to lower fees. Allegro Lokalnie does not support integration with the old Allegro system, causing confusion and management difficulties for sellers. The new system restricts auction formats, limiting options to "Buy Now" or bidding, but with constraints that complicate auction management and re-listing. Users express frustration over the loss of traditional auction features, reduced protections, and the forced separation of private and business sellers, which some interpret as Allegro's strategy to phase out private sellers due to higher dispute management costs and legal complexities. The community discusses alternatives such as eBay.pl and Sprzedajemy.pl, though these are seen as less convenient or less developed in the Polish market. There is also mention of Allegro's ownership by investment funds (Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners) and its transformation from a user-driven auction site to a commercial marketplace resembling a department store. Concerns include the removal of cheap shipping options like InPost parcel lockers, increased commissions, and the overall decline in user experience. The discussion highlights a broader trend of e-commerce consolidation, regulatory impacts, and the challenges faced by individual sellers in adapting to platform changes.
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