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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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  • #451 18327551
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #452 18327582
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Yes for free :) good uncle allegro, he is giving away money.
    You pay for it in the commodity :) and you are still happy.

    PEOPLE start to think

    The mechanism is simple. The seller pays in commission, the seller adds it to the price and you pay here.

    Obviously the perfect way to push a KIT that is free.
    It reminds me of Lisa's statement, and although the guy is not from my fairy tale, he was right about what he deigned to say out loud.
  • #453 18327595
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Believe me, items on the net / store are often more expensive than those on the Allegro that have smart.
    I buy oils from a certain company every year and the price is the same last year and this year, but this year it was smart.
  • #454 18327629
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    ok, because allegro has forced competition, it's just ok
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  • #455 18327761
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #456 18327804
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    You want a "Business" Genius to say that
    Allegro
    1. Does not take commission from B.
    2. Send them shipments for free
    What should they have?

    Or maybe it is so that B has such a tailored mark-up that despite the commission on the allegro, it still pays off for them.
    Because how much do these items cost in CHINA and how much on B?
    Well, let's take a product from B and compare the prices of Chinese B's.
    Product
    RFM69HW-433S Price in B 20.90
    At chinola on ebay with free shipping you can buy it for 9-10 PLN
    Even if we add the VAT costs of the transfer charges, max 40% is PLN 14, so let it be PLN 15
    So the mark-up B (the margin is called) is 30%
    Well, allegro so much commission it does not take.

    And still, I suppose that B does not pay PLN 9 net, only a bit less because he buys not one tile but a bit more

    So you want to say something else clever?

    As I said, low prices on the Allegro (and this is often true) results from the competition (a lot of sellers of the same product) and this forces them (to break through) to lower prices, but no one pays extra for anything, neither the Allegro nor the sellers.
  • #457 18327828
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #458 18327857
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    and there is nothing wrong with that, I just want to make you aware that neither the Allegro nor the sellers give anything
    Smart is OK but you still pay for it.
  • #459 18327861
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #460 18327872
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    max-bit wrote:
    Smart is OK but you still pay for it

    So what do I pay for in the store when the price of both products is the same and there is no smart? :)
  • #461 18327899
    khoam
    Level 42  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    So what do I pay for in the store when the price of both products is the same and there is no smart?

    For additional administrative and financial support ;)
  • #462 18327912
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    khoam wrote:
    For additional administrative and financial support

    In online shop :)
  • #463 18328395
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    max-bit wrote:
    Smart is OK but you still pay for it

    So what do I pay for in the store when the price of both products is the same and there is no smart? :)

    .... for life. And I can add as much markup as I want, it can be 1% or 1000% or 100,000,000,000% my case (i.e. the selling company) and now the question is whether someone will want to buy or not.

    My friend, running a company is about making money, i.e. we invest, for example, PLN 100 and we want to get, for example, PLN 150.
    Business is not about some Mr. Jan giving away the goods for free or selling for the same amount as he bought :)

    I like this forum more and more :)

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    PS.
    I propose to search for a product on the Allegro and see what is the price spread of such a product.
    And now, so that you have a job, I suggest asking those who have the highest prices of this product, why are they so expensive and so product after product oh you will have a job for years :)
    :)

    PS2.
    I know people who will not buy on the Allegro for China (genuine) why I do not know and buy on the website.
    And that's why this website (and others) works.
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  • #464 18328439
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    You imagine you do :)
    And good.
  • #465 18334397
    Pawelawe
    Level 12  
    I'm scared of all this crap, how could you spoil such a great portal ?!
    I have been selling and buying on the Allegro regularly for over 6 years, but if I am to display items on some poor allegro replica called (locally) where:
    * I pay 10% commission tribute.
    * my items automatically become more expensive for buyers due to the new almost 100% more expensive shipping system.
    * the service will be a local absurdity where someone can buy all my items without paying for them and I can't even file a commission refund request.
    * my offers will be automatically less 'attractive' to buyers because companies will always have more trust and they will take over the monopoly on sales, at least because there is no local reputation system.

    THAT THANKS!

    The situation with buying is also dramatic, the times when you could find a used part at a cheap price with a large selection will be a thing of the past for buyers. Without the reputation and opinion system, you cannot verify the seller's honesty and reliability in even a few percent. In the same way, there will be no such choice anymore, because I know perfectly well that thousands of sellers (including me) will simply give up any sales on such absurd terms.

    Of course, I can guess where this 'local creation' came from. There is not enough money in the tax office and they were influencing the Allegro to do something about it. Allegro itself probably had problems with it too, and here it is, this is how the best auction site in Poland was brought down.

    I'm just waiting for some enterprising heads to create a similar project and competition for this monopolistic trade market will arise.
  • #466 18334590
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Pawelawe wrote:

    Of course, I can guess where this 'local creation' came from. There is not enough money in the tax office and they were influencing the Allegro to do something about it. Allegro itself probably had problems with it too, and here it is, this is how the best auction site in Poland was brought down.


    I think you are wrong - the reason is completely different. I think that the reason is the reluctance to deal with complaints from people selling privately.
    Everyone who has bought privately knows what the problem is, sometimes, like the seller, he pushed the proverbial brick into you and goes into trouble.

    "Last year, Allegro generated PLN 1.75 billion in revenues, PLN 621.5 million in operating profit and PLN 230.1 million in net profit."

    Best regards!
  • #467 18334999
    aleksander1963
    Level 13  
    Something happens
    UOKiK is instituting proceedings against Allegro. He suspects that the giant is taking advantage of his position

    On Tuesday, December 10, the President of UOKiK, Marek Niechciał, announced a proceeding against Allegro. - We believe that the company used its market position to favor its online store at the expense of the offers of independent sellers on the Allegro platform
  • #468 18335042
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Don't read in the head :)

    This is not about us little (private), but about shops / companies that put on the Allegro.

    It is about positioning offers - that is, the offers from the Allegro store are displayed first, and then others.
  • #469 18338338
    Dobromir pomysłowy
    Level 24  
    Olx has sick fees, AL is also sick - 10%, and there are no buyers on other websites. Unless you have any positive experiences? And facebook?
  • #470 18338383
    Majetta13
    Level 10  
    Just not shopping on Facebook !!! It is an Eldorado portal for fraudsters. Fraudsters are practically untraceable by law enforcement agencies, it's hard to identify such a dishonest seller. As already, you have to convince the seller to provide himself with a telephone number, address, e-mail address. Let him leave as many "traces" as possible .....
  • #471 18338439
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    And the Allegro has lived to see it.
    Unfortunately, the truth is sad that (if a penalty is awarded) it will be passed on to the sellers.
    We hope that the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection will take a better look at what allegro is doing.
    Although I don't think such regulations are OK, forcing companies to do something is a symptom of socialism.
    I believe that a healthy situation would be if the market regulated itself with healthy competition.
    Unfortunately, as it is with us, it is turned on its head.
  • #472 18338568
    Dobromir pomysłowy
    Level 24  
    Majetta13 wrote:
    Just not shopping on Facebook !!! It is an Eldorado portal for fraudsters. Fraudsters are practically untraceable by law enforcement agencies, it's hard to identify such a dishonest seller. As already, you have to convince the seller to provide himself with a telephone number, address, e-mail address.

    This data is the basis and you can fake them, but I thought it was harder on Facebook. Explain how an ordinary user can cheat, because a professional and alegro will hide.
  • #473 18338738
    Majetta13
    Level 10  
    Facebook servers are located outside the country and it is difficult to get the IP of the computer from which the "fraudster" logged in when creating an account or during transactions. In the case of allego or olx there is no problem with that, except for that ... Let's say that there are other ways to track the delinquent :) . And the basis is transfers only to bank account numbers. You also have to pay attention to the ab email addresses were not exotic ....
  • #474 18339040
    Piottr242
    Level 23  
    max-bit wrote:
    And the Allegro has lived to see it.
    Unfortunately, the truth is sad that (if a penalty is awarded) it will be passed on to the sellers.
    We hope that the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection will take a better look at what allegro is doing.

    Any link, news, something?
  • #475 18339440
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Any of you have experience with shopping on the Allegro with shipping from China?
    Is it possible to get a refund from Allegro if the shipment does not arrive?
  • #476 18339446
    Dobromir pomysłowy
    Level 24  
    Andrzej42 wrote:
    Or maybe persuade the electrode to take over those dissatisfied with Allegro?
    How to reach decision-makers and explain to them what and how :) ?

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    Jogesh wrote:
    Now it is a monopolist, but if it continues like this, it will collapse. Nokia has collapsed, Windows Mobile has collapsed, Altavista has collapsed, and many more. Even those introduced by huge companies with enormous financial resources.
    They will not fall too strong and Poland is a specific client. But there is room for a big player
  • #477 18339523
    zgierzman
    Level 31  
    E8600 wrote:
    Any of you have experience with shopping on the Allegro with shipping from China?
    Is it possible to get a refund from Allegro if the shipment does not arrive?


    Interesting, I cut myself too.
    I was looking at what is usual, ie "we issue a VAT invoice", and that there would be at least 98 percent positives, because you know: a large seller has to catch which haters.
    I read the description but didn't click "about seller".
    After two weeks, no trace of the purchase, replies to e-mails come from google translator, and the company is from Hong Kong ...

    So in d ... I have all this smart, I will not buy on Allegro and that's it. Because even if I get a refund, I prefer to buy on AliExpress - the delivery date is the same, and in the event of a linden, I have a refund.
  • #478 18339554
    miroslaw wielki
    Conditionally unlocked  
    Give me a break with allegro from china. Buy from aliexpress. Very fast dispatch of the goods under the complaint and the old goods are left for you. The refrigeration gauges sent me new ones within a week. From the old ones, I have parts for PLN 80. This way.
  • #479 18339573
    zgierzman
    Level 31  
    And that's how I usually do, order on AliExpress. But here I wanted time - so I looked at the VAT invoice. Usually I have an invoice somewhere, because I will have cheaper from a Chinese.
    Unfortunately, after two weeks, neither the invoice nor the goods.
    The first and the last time she cooks like this. At least on a small scale - individual pieces for prototyping or your own needs. Although I think that if I needed thousands of pieces, the Allegro would not help me anyway.

    And this, after much reflection, prompts me to go to Allegro Lokalnie. Here I will look for collectible artifacts (although it may be expensive), or I will put the arrears out of the wardrobe myself. And the "old" allegro is over for me.

    Now my vote in the poll would be different - to the question "What do you think about the new Allegro", I would say "I'm for yes ..."
  • #480 18339764
    SZYMON BYDGOSZCZ
    Level 38  
    zgierzman wrote:
    Unfortunately, after two weeks, neither the invoice nor the goods.
    The first and the last time she cooks like this. At least on a small scale - individual pieces for prototyping or your own needs.


    It's different with ali.

    Goods bought in the morning and the second in the evening at the same auction, only a different color.

    Bought in the morning, it arrived two weeks after the one bought in the evening.

    Generally the first in 20 days.
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Topic summary

The discussion centers on the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," a new, separate platform by Allegro aimed at private sellers, distinct from the main Allegro site which is increasingly focused on business accounts. Users report significant usability issues with Allegro Lokalnie, including limited photo uploads (maximum five), a restricted and basic description editor, lack of delivery price list integration, and absence of features like "show similar" items. The platform enforces a flat 10% commission on sales, which many consider excessive, especially for private sellers accustomed to lower fees. Allegro Lokalnie does not support integration with the old Allegro system, causing confusion and management difficulties for sellers. The new system restricts auction formats, limiting options to "Buy Now" or bidding, but with constraints that complicate auction management and re-listing. Users express frustration over the loss of traditional auction features, reduced protections, and the forced separation of private and business sellers, which some interpret as Allegro's strategy to phase out private sellers due to higher dispute management costs and legal complexities. The community discusses alternatives such as eBay.pl and Sprzedajemy.pl, though these are seen as less convenient or less developed in the Polish market. There is also mention of Allegro's ownership by investment funds (Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners) and its transformation from a user-driven auction site to a commercial marketplace resembling a department store. Concerns include the removal of cheap shipping options like InPost parcel lockers, increased commissions, and the overall decline in user experience. The discussion highlights a broader trend of e-commerce consolidation, regulatory impacts, and the challenges faced by individual sellers in adapting to platform changes.
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