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  • #481 18339968
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    And you know what's the worst? I tried to put something on AL with a price 10% more expensive (to compensate for the commission) ...
    and sold ( Paid in Advance , pickup in person) in less than a day. :-D
    What is the conclusion of this? I mispriced! ;-)
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  • #482 18340233
    Pawelawe
    Level 12  
    ^ToM^ wrote:
    Pawelawe wrote:

    Of course, I can guess where this 'local creation' came from. There is not enough money in the tax office and they were influencing the Allegro to do something about it. Allegro itself probably had problems with it too, and here it is, this is how the best auction site in Poland was brought down.


    I think you are wrong - the reason is completely different. I think that the reason is the reluctance to deal with complaints from people selling privately.
    Everyone who has bought privately knows what the problem is, sometimes, like the seller, he pushed the proverbial brick into you and goes into trouble.

    "Last year, Allegro generated PLN 1.75 billion in revenues, PLN 621.5 million in operating profit and PLN 230.1 million in net profit."

    Best regards!


    That's all you got from my speech? I wrote much more important issues, and you write to me about some stupid pardon ...


    and xo now will not be uxerax with przedawxami, as if xym has roxnax a new platform from the previous? sluxham arguments?

    sorry for the x but i don't have a default letter.
  • #483 18340916
    landy13
    Level 31  
    2konrafal1993 wrote:
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    It presses under your fingers: "Did you use the search option?".
    After all, such a topic has existed for a long time.
    Link
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  • #484 18346016
    Toriada
    Level 1  
    max-bit wrote:
    hmm ... and what else is not allowed ....

    Let them kiss me.

    What is allowed and what is not allowed to punish me to piss through the zipped fly because this is what the Allegro wants.
    A messy website, they annoyed me a long time ago, but now it's ...

    Added after 14 [minutes]:

    Allegro started to break down a long time ago (a few years after the uprising) when they felt that they were allowed to do everything.
    And they made a rag on every level, not many admins of individual categories, and there were still such admins - as if the guardians (as they were still big but not big enough to flood their number) were able to destroy individual sellers, at least such legends were circulating, and I myself used to be unpleasant with such experience (competition?)

    Later, they grew up and grew, the commissions went up .... it was better and worse.
    As they deleted the entire comment history a few years ago, it started badly and there were actually changes to the minus. (plus for them)
    Yes, there are also pluses, for example the SMART allegro - although you have to remember that you pay for it, because IT IS NOT FOR FREE - you just pay in the price of the goods (read the commission - as if someone would not know)

    Making a Purely Commercial Market with the Allegro market now, in my opinion, it should be a nail in the coffin of this website. OK, I understand that they want to separate the commercial, but treat a private user like garbage by throwing it to some junk site that looks like half a shrub?

    Can you imagine such an action on ebay?
    After what does that mean A Locally? as I wrote, I would understand it 20 years ago? But today
    It's like making the internet locally, i.e. the internet is an island and covers, for example, the city (local lot), totally absurd.
    The idea is so stupid that it is not possible and yet ...

    As far as I would understand the chapter using the Company - Civilian chapter, but it could be done with one filter button on the website and by the topic, but not to push private sales into something like OLX (and OLX is part of the Allegro group), what is it for?

    I don't know who works there, but it's not good.

    I'm falling on ebay.


    But why are you so outraged? After all, you can still display an item as always. Just click "post item", then the option below will appear "you can also list using the existing form" and I'll give you that! Everything normal ?
  • #485 18346070
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #486 18346319
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    As for the listing on the Allegro.
    And this is so once you put something up for ridiculous money, it will lie and rot for months.
    And sometimes you will jump ... there is no feeling for that.

    as for Mr. Erbit and how timely Toriad was when this post was written? Like the Allegro, it did not give the opportunity to exhibit in the old way.
    Currently, you can because they got scared (UOKIK) but for how long?
    Perhaps after the first (because it was supposed to happen) they will return to their old plans and as you can see, their itchiness has not given up on the idea.
    My opinion is simple if they want to develop this website, please, I am not an enemy of them BUT I have to choose where I want to exhibit, and not in a socialist way, I HAVE it where THEY WANT.
    Paniali?
  • #487 18346415
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    max-bit wrote:
    My opinion is simple if they want to develop this website, please, I am not an enemy of them BUT I have to choose where I want to exhibit, and not in a socialist way, I HAVE it where THEY WANT.
    Paniali?
    They are not "masters" because your thinking is socialist. It is a private company and has the right to limit / terminate cooperation with natural persons. They decide who uses their sales platform, just like you decide who enters your apartment.
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  • #488 18346470
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Ok, let the energy company raise the electricity prices to PLN 100 / kWh or 50 liters of fuel :)
    And if you want, you shine and ride, if you can't afford it, you can't. Or a land tax PLN 10,000 per meter per property and how ...
    And what ?

    In fact, you are right, I am an opponent of socialism, but if a given company - a company is a monopoly of services, then you have to watch them.
  • #489 18346531
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    max-bit wrote:
    Ok, let the energy company raise the electricity prices to PLN 100 / kWh or 50 liters of fuel
    And if you want, you shine and ride, if you can't afford it, you can't. Or a land tax PLN 10,000 per meter per property and how ...
    And what ?

    And a change of supplier or moving out - where I can afford to live. That's why no one raises prices this way.
    Let it not be - I do not like Allegro's decision, I do not fully understand it, but it's their product, they do what they want with it. UOKiK is responsible for controlling it to make it relatively fair.
  • #490 18347445
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #491 18348610
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    Erbit wrote:
    When returning, they trade, increasing service costs and, on top of that, they build bad PR for the company

    Who is being trafficked by? It would be enough to remove private sellers from buyer protection, or to mark them as private and in trouble. Service cost like other entities.
  • #492 18348623
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #493 18348726
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    Erbit wrote:
    In addition, people who do not run a business are troublesome (in relation to companies) on all sides - also in terms of the commission payment relationship.

    This can also be solved, for example by prepaying, for example, PLN 50 to an Allegro account in order to put up an auction (except for automotive and real estate) or PLN 200 (for the expensive categories). It is not possible to put up a new auction if your account balance drops below these thresholds. The amount can be withdrawn back at any time, but the condition as above, i.e. blocking of issuing.
    Appropriate payment mechanisms are already in place.
    And such rules for everyone, not only for private ones. For a company, PLN 50 or 200 is no money.
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  • #494 18349357
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Meanwhile....
    News AD 2019 - 2020 in ALLEGRO Link

    Ad.1 Well rzesz ... Bravo, what they once liquidated are restored, not for some disfigurement, he came up with (the) brilliant and the idea of the helmet flew :)

    Ad.2 Another half a year, but UOKiK will have to be interested in the topic so that they can cut stupid ideas out of their heads. (I have to sit down and fry something myself) and that the current government is looking for money ... so there is a chance for the neck plus straightening them (but this still does not solve the problem of the lack of healthy competition) and more about that.

    And finally
    Ad. 3 Commission Increase (?) Well ... you can see a few departments so far, probably wanting to see how the losers react.
    10% is not enough, and 12% ... then 15 or 20 and what ...

    To sum up, so far there is UOKiK, which can stop the monopolistic actions of Allegro and yes, I do not like it because it is socialism, and this is the enemy of humanity, but as long as there is no healthy competition (and there are no premises for something like this to happen) the Allegro will operate us and this does not only apply to private sellers, but also to companies that are already well operated because taking up to 12% commission for basically running an online store is good ...
    ================================================== ================================================
    We'll live, we'll see. For now, I appeal for sending letters to the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection, whoever can do it. Describing their monopoly activities.
    How is it a private company and can do whatever it wants, OK, but we can also use any tool that will not make its life easier.
  • #495 18349658
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars  
    max-bit wrote:
    Ok, let the energy company raise the electricity prices to PLN 100 / kWh or 50 liters of fuel :)
    And if you want, you shine and ride, if you can't afford it, you can't. Or a land tax PLN 10,000 per meter per property and how ...
    And what ?
    First, there are some strategic goods and services where prices are regulated by the state. The sales platform is not one of them. Secondly, Allegro is the most popular, but not the only one, so there is no monopoly. The method of operation is neither legally protected nor licensed, so anyone can run a website offering similar functionality.
  • #496 18350674
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Some are, others are not, and why is it that electricity must be licensed and the market must be regulated?
    There are countries where this is not the case.
    The same is Fuel, etc., and not because it is pouring sucker (on the helmet) and here it is allowed.
    Such arguments are you know what.

    Either we have a free market with healthy competition or we create (and create) a socialist state (and we create)
    There are no half, 1/4, etc.
    Strategic it can be the army and thermonuclear charges in the silo, and not trade and goods (maybe except for the trading of military materials).
    Although in the USA it was also possible to buy dynamite in a shop and nobody made it known, to this day in the southern states the ammunition for weapons is like drops on the shelves and no one will think to ask why we buy it ... but for Poland, where a Soviet (socialist) man was brought up, it is a shock.
    The state regulates us more and more.
    And what ?
  • #497 18350717
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    And education? Medical care? Fire brigade, army? Infrastructure? So not only the army ...
  • #498 18350844
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    hindoos wrote:
    Medical care?

    AND did you treat your teeth in the state?
  • #499 18350857
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    The inefficiency of medical care in Poland does not change the fact that it is universal and generally available help. At the expense of no small taxes, of course. And just as I am a passionate supporter of private medical care, I cannot imagine not being saved at SOR due to lack of insurance.
  • #500 18350928
    miroslaw wielki
    Conditionally unlocked  
    And what is medicine on Allegro?
  • #502 18352073
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    The problem is that people got used to this allegro and nothing else but the so-called Natural Monopoly was created (they have the only such a large platform on the Polish e-commerce market as it is nicely called). Neither ebay nor much less other platforms even come close ebay is considered a global e-commerce market, aliexp behind the Chinese sales platform Amazon is a world store. Allegro is currently striving for what Amazon is, not ebay.
    It is not a Monopoly imposed by law, but always a monopoly. They have a dominant platform on the market, so they will do what they want. A private company that seems to be OK, but it can't be like that.
    The mechanism is simple as the sale grows, you can increase the resistance price as long as the profit (read the amount of sales - commission profit) is clipping.
    As I wrote many times, the situation is bad, they have no competition, so you need to use as much as possible the tools and mechanisms that can stop it. Of course, there is always a danger that they will collapse and change the country of installation, etc., ideas. But you have to figure it out.
    So currently there is only the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection that can only do something today.
  • #503 18352291
    thereminator
    Conditionally unlocked  
    max-bit wrote:
    Some are, others are not, and why is it that electricity must be licensed and the market must be regulated?
    There are countries where this is not the case.
    The same is Fuel, etc., and not because it is pouring sucker (on the helmet) and here it is allowed.
    Such arguments are you know what.

    Either we have a free market with healthy competition or we create (and create) a socialist state (and we create)
    There are no half, 1/4, etc.
    Strategic it can be the army and thermonuclear charges in the silo, and not trade and goods (maybe except for the trading of military materials).
    Although in the USA it was also possible to buy dynamite in a shop and nobody made it known, to this day in the southern states the ammunition for weapons is like drops on the shelves and no one will think to ask why we buy it ... but for Poland, where a Soviet (socialist) man was brought up, it is a shock.
    The state regulates us more and more.
    And what ?


    Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?
  • #504 18355557
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    You can see that the community is slowly getting used to new facts.
    Purpose?
    The gull is supposed to buy and not sell, not to whine, but to take as much as the Lord tells him to.
    Lot is true.
  • #505 18355588
    tomku77
    Level 12  
    max-bit wrote:
    You can see that the community is slowly getting used to new facts.
    Purpose?
    The gull is supposed to buy and not sell, not to whine, but to take as much as the Lord tells him to.
    Lot is true.

    I do not know, there will be less business Januszów, they will have less commission ...
  • #506 18355616
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Write it to Allegro ...
    Behind them there is big business that regulates the market.
    And it does not matter that there is a secondary market in any way.
  • #507 18356414
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    But the secondary market will be whether they like it or not. When the sales platform / state starts to tighten the screw too much, there will soon be bazaars, e-mail groups, etc. Maybe there will be less choice, maybe the prices will be a little higher, but as long as it is more profitable - people will combine.
  • #508 18356441
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    And what will you spend weeks looking for someone somewhere to sell something?
    Here you had one platform etc.
    As I wrote, I consider it a deliberate action to limit the secondary market, everything is to be wasted and whoever believes in stupidity about CO2 greenhouse effects is formal.
    It is nothing else to trick suckers for cash. Read sell even more and even more expensive yes, today we have a reverse trend, not that products are cheaper but more expensive because if we count this "cheaper" product over many years and we have to replace it many times during this period the final price will be even greater than that of the product bought once and more expensive.
    That's why corporations are becoming disgustingly rich and people (I recommend reading) basically getting poorer. The middle class on which it was once based ceases to exist (and this does not only apply to our country). In fact, today the middle class are people who are enormously indebted (to corporations) with nothing at all, with lousy jobs. Of course, there are countries that still have something and try their economic policy so as to have and not be recipients (see Niemiaszki). And their politics certainly influences us.
  • #509 18356473
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    max-bit wrote:
    And what will you spend weeks looking for someone somewhere to sell something?

    Well, yes, there was no trade before Allegro, right? :)
    There are groups on Facebook, there is OLX, there is Allegro Lokalnie. Each with its own rules (e.g. no possibility of listing replicas of weapons on Facebook, no user verification on OLX, small range and high commissions on AL). In addition, there are also industry internet forums.
    Was Allegro more convenient? Of course. Is it necessary? Absolutely not...
  • #510 18356575
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Well, I can see these crowds on the forums ...
    I am not a trader but I know what the interest is after the allegro (unfortunately) NONE.
    It's even ebay - although a safe platform (and also expensive), a dog with a lame leg will not look there.
    And people got used to the Allegro.
    A long time ago (2004) I tried to use non-allegative platforms and, what and never ever, I have never sold anything there.
    It's the same today. If something is still selling on OLX, they also have some opinion, unfortunately.
    I'm not going to spend weeks on forums and sell something for 100 or two (time is money).
    And what am I supposed to go back to the 90s? and I don't know to open a booth on the local stock exchange :) no jokes.
    And this is the same logic to buy a cough - well, it's a revelation, well, you can fix the same advantages with a hammer, and you can even go to Bulgaria?
    As he writes, this deliberate action and that's it.
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The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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