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Construction of a control system for the roller shutter by voice or contactless - 24V motor, caterin

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  • #1 18945624
    huashiwei
    Level 5  
    Hello.
    I want to build a simple circuit to control the movement of a roller shutter by voice.

    That is, I want to lower and raise the 24V motor of the roller shutter with the command UP and DOWN or any other ( programmed)

    In the absence of being able to get a voice solution as described above,
    I would like to build a circuit that responds to non-contact hand movement, so as to provide up and down movement of the roller shutter.

    Such a roller shutter is located in a catering establishment at the WASH station, where the dishwasher has to repeatedly with wet hands
    to open and close the roller shutter covering the window. Hence, the best solution would be to operate such a roller shutter motor by voice.

    I don't know how this would be done - WHEREFORE I WOULD BE THANKFUL FOR ANY TIPS AND PROPOSALS.
    THANK YOU

    Construction of a control system for the roller shutter by voice or contactless - 24V motor, caterin .
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  • #3 18946326
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    If you want voice control then you can use, for example, ShutterBox + Alexa or Google speaker.
    The Shutterbox's DC controller supports 12-24V motors. You need WiFi and internet access.
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  • #4 18946449
    ROWE
    Level 34  
    misiek1111 wrote:
    #2
    .
    ON - OF is yes.
    But up - stop, down - stop ...? maybe you can give some simple schematic for the author.
  • #5 18948582
    misiek1111
    Level 36  
    ...............
  • #6 18948720
    ROWE
    Level 34  
    huashiwei wrote:
    I want to build a simple circuit that will control the movement of a roller shutter by voice.
    misiek1111 wrote:
    A simpler solution is motion sensors, e.g. a capacitive one mounted under the countertop (as long as it's not metal, since it's catering), or infrared sensors:
    .
    At this point it's getting not easy for the author to do, also in terms of IP, but well....
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  • #7 18948843
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    This solution has disadvantages. The author has not specified how the blinds are to behave - and in this case, the movement of the blinds would be related to keeping a hand on the sensor for the time the blind is moving and part of the tabletop will be out of use. An additional problem could be the tabletop itself - its thickness or the material it is made of.
    Some sort of configurable roller shutter controller could be used - e.g. when a button with the right IP or a sensor (e.g. capacitive) is pressed, the roller shutter opens or closes without the need to hold the button until the roller shutter is open or closed.
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  • #8 18949111
    ROWE
    Level 34  
    huashiwei wrote:
    I want to build a simple circuit that will control the movement of a roller shutter using voice.
    .

    Col misiek1111 , this would be good after redesigning your proposal based on #37 from the link:
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3730454-30.html

    There would be voice control, it could be close to the drive where IP is not so critical.
    What do you think about refining it for this theme?
  • #9 18949346
    misiek1111
    Level 36  
    sk1977 wrote:
    in this case, the movement of the blinds would involve holding a hand on the sensor for the duration of the blind movement and part of the countertop would be out of service.

    2x no :) .
    A bistable capacitive sensor such as the one pictured in #2 can be used. The sensor can operate up to 3cm of countertop thickness (it calibrates itself depending on the thickness of the countertop), and if there is little space on the countertop, it can be placed at the bottom behind the pedestal and actuated with the foot.





    ROWE wrote:
    huashiwei wrote:
    I want to build a simple circuit to control the movement of a roller shutter by voice.
    misiek1111 wrote:
    A simpler solution is motion sensors, such as a capacitive one mounted under the countertop (unless it's metal, since it's catering), or infrared sensors:
    .
    At this point it's already getting not easy for the author to do, also in terms of IP, well, but...


    or:

    huashiwei wrote:
    I would like to build a circuit that responds to non-contact hand movement
    .

    If the two sensors, power supply and relays are too difficult for the author to combine, he can always hire a cameraman for voice commands :)
  • #10 18949416
    ROWE
    Level 34  
    I understand, which means we stand by our own.
  • #11 18949507
    misiek1111
    Level 36  
    A sensor is a sensor, it can be any other even a microphone. The important thing is to get there.
    Personally, I find voice commands used at home or in the car not very convenient. I only use them to "enter" streets in the GPS.
    I have several gesture-operated devices at home and I am extremely satisfied with them. They are fast, reliable, easy to use and you don't have to remember the commands.
    If such a programmable module - which the author wrote about - could be found, it could be substituted for a capacitive or infrared sensor.

    Exactly, is there such a programmable module, in which we can assign an individual voice command to the control output ?
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  • #12 18949511
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #13 18949527
    sk1977

    IT specialist
    Perhaps let the author have his say. He asked about voice control probably not without reason.
    For me, such a solution would be unacceptable for ergonomic reasons - a worktop is a work area and if, for example, you put a pot of water over the sensor, I suspect it wouldn't work....
    The worktops I have seen in the catering industry have usually been steel. The kitchen is a wet room and has its own characteristics - I wouldn't put anything close to the floor there - none of the automation we implemented in kitchens could make it difficult to keep clean - including under the worktop and around the floor.
    In addition, there are regulations - many ideas could not be implemented by them. Instead, hermetic switches with cables worked well (e.g. 3SE5112-0CR01 under the ceiling with cable + actuators).
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  • #14 18949554
    ROWE
    Level 34  
    ROWE wrote:
    I understand, which means you stand by your position.
    Erbit wrote:
    I understand, which means you stand by your position.
    Erbit wrote:
    Yes I understand, you stand by yours.


    You misunderstand. You are referring to suggestions from # 8 to #9 and so much after apothecary.
  • #15 18949581
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around constructing a control system for a roller shutter motor (24V) that can be operated via voice commands or contactless hand movements. The user seeks solutions for a catering establishment where the roller shutter needs to be operated with wet hands. Suggestions include using motion sensors (capacitive or infrared) for contactless control, and integrating a voice control system using devices like ShutterBox with Alexa or Google speakers. Concerns are raised about the practicality of voice commands in a kitchen environment, with recommendations for simpler, more reliable solutions such as configurable roller shutter controllers or hermetic switches. The conversation highlights the importance of ergonomics and hygiene in a catering setting.
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