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VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

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  • I was just about to start the promised inverter tests, but this morning I got a long and eagerly awaited charger straight from China. Unfortunately, it's stronger than me and I have to check it out.

    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    I ordered the "top version", the one for $ 20.99, the V40 model.

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    It is noteworthy that the set includes a 12V, 2A power supply in a very solid plug housing.

    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    The charger is really universal and foolproof.
    I will risk saying that it will charge up everything that fits. :)
    As described in the auction, the charger has protection against reverse battery connection, short circuit protection (whatever that means) and protection against overcharging the battery (whatever that means). In the manual (interestingly - it is in the form of a hard booklet in two languages, of course Chinese and English), there is not a word about security features, so I will not check their effectiveness.


    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    In the picture above, you can see some random links that I just had on hand when the photo was taken. And yes, the first from the left is 18650 of an unknown brand, once taken from a laptop battery and now from the flashlight that I carry on my belt. The second is an AA, Ni-MH link taken out of the mouse from the second computer, the brand of the link is also unknown. The third link is also Ni-MH, but this time AAA, which I got together with MaxCom walkie-talkies, and the last one is 14500 from friends from Aliexpress. Unfortunately, I did not have Ni-Cd, but the charger should also work without any problems.

    As you can see in the pictures below - the charger "sees" a different link on each channel.

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    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    Now for some dry facts.
    We have four independent channels at our disposal (there is also a separate USB 5V 1A output). We can insert a different type of battery into each connector and charge or discharge it.
    On the backlit display, we have a number of very useful data, such as:

    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    - channel number,
    - operating mode,
    - current voltage of a given cell,
    - charging current of a given cell,
    - time from the start of the measurement,
    - the amount of currently "pumped" ampere-hours,
    - and, perhaps most importantly, the internal resistance of the cells.

    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    The charger has three basic functions:
    Charger - Charging, we can choose (for each channel separately) charging current at the level of 300mA / 500mA / 700mA / 1000mA
    Fast Test - Discharging. In this mode, the charger unloads the cells to a level that is safe for them. This is mainly to form Ni-MH cells. It also measures their capacity and remembers them on the display, but does not charge the batteries at the end of the test.
    Nor Test - Discharge, capacity measurement and charge. In this mode, the charger discharges the batteries, remembers the result on the display, and then recharges the cells. This option is very useful when we leave the cells overnight for testing.

    According to the specification, the charger supports the following types of cells:
    26650, 22650, 26500, 18650, 18490, 18350, 17670, 17500, 17355, 16340, 14500, 10440, AAA, AA, A, SC, S.

    A few more photos from the tests of 18650 cells:
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    It is neither my first nor the only charger, but I feel that it will be my favorite charger, mainly due to the measurement of the internal resistance of the cells, which allows for the rejection of "low" cells almost immediately.

    It's hard to speak after one day of testing. The charger managed to do two full "charge, discharge, charge" cycles for two 18650 battery packs, which is eight in total. It worked well, and the measurement results were very similar to those I performed recently on another device.

    For such money, only take, charge and enjoy the purchase.

    Ps. One user pointed out to me that I didn't mention an important point. Well, the 5V USB output uses the energy stored in the batteries and does not work when the charger is connected to the AC adapter. So it's basically a PowerBank feature.

    "5V USB is only as a 3,7V lithium battery output, the output current is 1000mAh (nickel metal hydride battery is invalided).
    5V USB is invalided when the charger is connected to the adapter.

    If can be effectively output when the 3,7V lithium battery is put into any slot.

    V40 USB 5V output is suitable for most of the mobile elecrtonic devices, but due to we did not test all products, do not exclude that some of the 5V electronic products are not applicable. "

    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    The same colleague accused me of incorrect information about the Nor Test mode.
    Therefore, I am quoting a quote from the manual.

    "Firstly, the charger charge the battery to be full electricity. Then to discharge the battery and record the elecrticity which is dispolayed on the LCD screen, until the battery is discharged (the end is twinkling, ant the real capacity is can be obtained) And then the charger the battery to be full electriciti again, but no to record. "

    Let me translate this passage into ours.

    First, the charger charges the cells to full capacity. Then it discharges the cells, measuring their capacity at the same time and, after the test is completed, saves it on the display. The charger then recharges the cells to full capacity, but saves nothing.

    EDIT: February 20, 2018

    Dueto the fact that the comments were overwhelming about the originality of this charger, as well as how to test the cell capacity, I allowed myself to do some additional tests and photos. You can clearly see that the charger measures the capacity when the batteries are discharged. You can also see that when charging quite old cells, the capacity measurement is sucked from the finger. Or maybe someone wants to buy a few years (maybe even ten years old) cell with a measured capacity of 4400mAh :)

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    FAST test and stored capacity measurement.

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    Landing. As you can see, after almost four hours, a lot more entered than we had just sucked out.

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    After about ten hours, charging is complete. The batteries were quite warm, but not above 45 ° C. As you can see, the capacity has magically more than doubled. A miracle or something :) .

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    NOR Test, here we go.

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    Test complete. Oh, and where are the rest of my Ampere hours? Could they turn into the heat generated by the cells during charging? The difference between fast test and normal test is due to my mistake. Fast was made at 500mA and normal at 1000mA.

    Hope this will clear up your doubts. At least in terms of how to measure.

    Best regards.
    CMS.

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  • #2 17020458
    H3nry
    Level 32  
    Why is there no real U / V measurement in the test and possible comparison with the data on the display? I would ask you to perform these measurements with reasonable accuracy;>
  • #3 17020469
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    I can check my Lii-500. The prototype of this v40, only cheaper ... But that's only when I throw the next link for charging.


    CMS wrote:
    The charger has three basic functions:
    Charger - Charging, we can choose (for each channel separately) a charging current of 300mA / 500mA / 700mA / 1000mA
    Fast Test - Discharging. In this mode, the charger unloads the cells to a level that is safe for them. This is mainly to form Ni-MH cells
    Nor Test - Discharge, capacity measurement and charge. In this mode, the charger discharges the batteries, remembers the result on the display, and then recharges the cells. This option is very useful when we leave the cells overnight for testing.


    And where do you get this information? In Liitokali it works completely different. And the v40 is nothing more than a Liitokali clone with different stickers and a higher price - such information is available on the internet. For the sake of accuracy, Fast Test only discharges and charges the cell, and Nor Test fully charges, discharges and charges again. Capacity is measured while charging, not discharging. In addition, there was no information about the role of the USB port, which (using Li-Ion 3.7 V cells) acts as a power source, and about the possibility of buying with a 12 V charger for the cigarette lighter socket.

    EDIT: I checked. In the range up to 20V and 10A (yes, I know, but in my multimeter 200 mA is the previous step) the difference is about +/- 0.01. I do not know how real the indications of the multimeter (EMOS EM391) are, so it's hard for me to relate to the reality of the measurement, I will skip the topic of the method ...
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  • #4 17020809
    mariomario
    Level 18  
    siewcu wrote:
    Capacity is measured while charging, not discharging.


    It is probably the correct result when the cell is discharged, not when charging ..
    Why do I need information about the amount of "energy loaded into the cell" if the cell has a high internal resistance? ..this will release a lot of heat on the cell which will be "counted as loaded energy and falsify the end result.

    Measurement of milli-ampere-hours (mAh) and watt-hours (Wh) should be done when the cell is discharged to the minimum recommended voltage (for most li-ion, e.g. 2.75V, and before the measurement the cell should be fully charged)
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  • #5 17020836
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    The question is not when the correct result comes out, but how it works in this device. You put in a 3.6 V cell, it is charged to 4.2 V, discharged (I just don't know what voltage, because I have never looked at it) and when charging to 4.2 V the capacity is measured. Whether this is the correct method - I don't know, I wasn't interested in it. Maybe some component of the measurement is the measured internal resistance of the cell, I do not know - you would have to disassemble such a device into its first parts and check how everything is done.
  • #6 17021401
    PiotrPitucha
    Level 34  
    Hello
    I look at the prices and there is no confirmation that the Lii-500 is cheaper, maybe someone came across some promotions, but with the same suppliers the prices are comparable and the Lii-500 slightly advantageous.
    There are several disadvantages, this applies to electronics in general, not a specific type of device.
    - why cardboard as a carrier of instructions? instead of cardboard, normal paper and a font twice as large would be enough, now you need to buy a magnifying glass or a microscope for reading;
    - strange manner, black plastic casing and gray or silver inscriptions on the casing, you have to guess what is written or deal with an additional light source to see something;
    - a very important direction of inserting the link is only marked with a rather flat embossing, you have to guess more, because the visibility of this icon is practically zero;
    - the lack of cavities next to the links makes it difficult to remove the link, there are three methods, baby fingers, undermining with something thin and pulling the pressure spring back with a fingernail, which works effectively for me, but the nails are burrs that effectively damage clothes, the problem is worldwide because out of 5 chargers I have only one is solved perfectly in this respect.
    best regards
  • #7 17021506
    CMS
    Administrator of HydePark
    H3nry wrote:
    Why is there no real U / V measurement in the test and possible comparison with the data on the display?


    Because it's not a test.
    Besides, decide to either U / I or V / A.

    siewcu wrote:
    And where do you get this information?


    And from the instructions:

    Quote:
    Firstly, the charger charge the battery to be full electricity. Then to discharge the battery and record the elecrticity which is dispolayed on the LCD screen, until the battery is discharged (the end is twinkling, ant the real capacity is can be obtained). And then the charger the battery to be full electriciti again, but no to record.


    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review

    siewcu wrote:
    In addition, there was no information about the role of the USB port, which (using Li-Ion 3.7 V cells) acts as a power source


    I actually forgot to mention it. Not so much a power source, which can be confused with a current source, but rather a PowerBank.

    Quote:
    5V USB is only as a 3,7V lithium battery output, the output current is 1000mAh (nickel metal hydride battery is invalided).
    5V USB is invalided when the charger is connected to the adapter.

    If can be effectively output when the 3,7V lithium battery is put into any slot.

    V40 USB 5V output is suitable for most of the mobile elecrtonic devices, but due to we did not test all products, do not exclude that some of the 5V electronic products are not applicable.


    VariCore V40 - universal charger unlike any other - China - review
  • #8 17021567
    H3nry
    Level 32  
    CMS wrote:
    A few more photos from the tests of 18650 cells

    Everything is clear only just realized that it is a test of cheap cells.
    I have decided, in the event of a possible charger test, to measure the voltages and currents.
  • #9 17021613
    CMS
    Administrator of HydePark
    H3nry wrote:
    Everything is clear only just realized that it is a test of cheap cells.


    It is not a cell test. This is an article on the charger. I had to put some cells in to see that the charger is working and that it displays quite a lot of information. Some photos show cheap links, others branded ones. But I emphasize, this is not a test.
  • #10 17023121
    mkpl
    Level 37  
    Nice charger. For the price, I think one of the better choices. I am wondering about the power supply. It looks impulse, so it would be useful to check the conducted interference and most importantly the insulation between the network and the output (safety issue). Many times I have already seen 5V chargers that can potentially send the owner to the other world ... Unfortunately, it would be a destructive test if the power supply turned out to be poor.
  • #11 17023204
    p.obelix
    Refrigeration equipment specialist
    Thanks for the review description. I've been looking for a charger for a long time and I think I'll buy it.
  • #12 17023549
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    And I will insist on the cheaper Lii-500, not the more expensive clone.
  • #13 17023650
    PiotrPitucha
    Level 34  
    Hello
    And insist, I bought a VariCore V40 and you probably will not find whose clone is anywhere, but the price can be checked, we probably have a different Google because I had a VariCore V40 cheaper.
    One thing is for sure, the equipment is perfect and worth buying.
    best regards
  • #14 17023720
    george2002

    Level 21  
    I have to say something because comparing the Lii-500 to this charger from the post has nothing to do with, because the V40 is a copy of some Liitokala and that's it, I have a Lii-500, I tested it with 300 batteries and the only thing that is wrong with resistance, more tests and more on the subject Lii-500 here and not that this V40 is definitely not bad, but it's like comparing what was first created - a chicken or an egg :D
  • #15 17023992
    PiotrPitucha
    Level 34  
    Hello
    It's good that you are speaking, but you had the V40 in your hand to express yourself what is whose clone?
    Just out of curiosity, enter Liitokala in Google and find such a company ...
    Then look for Varicore on Google, and here's a surprise for you, there is such a company and for many years it has been producing chargers under its own name, which cannot be said about Liitokala.
  • #16 17024647
    Piotrek#G
    Level 27  
    http://www.liito-kala.com

    Sometimes it's worth going to the other side of the search ...
    Looking at the addresses of the companies, it is very possible that one and the same factory is doing everything.
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  • #17 17025000
    CMS
    Administrator of HydePark
    Gentlemen, don't argue. The topic is about the VariCore charger and that's it.

    Colleague the sower , confirms that they are two different systems.
    His charger measures capacity while charging, and mine measures capacity when discharging. If it's not an obvious difference, then I don't know what could be a more blunt confirmation of the difference.
  • #18 17025363
    Piotrek#G
    Level 27  
    CMS wrote:
    The sower's colleague confirms that these are two different systems.
    His charger measures capacity while charging, and mine measures capacity when discharging. If it's not an obvious difference, then I don't know what could be a more blunt confirmation of the difference.

    But how about charging?
    In the case of the NOR TEST function, the Liitokala measures the capacity at discharge This is clearly stated in this test:
    http://lygte-info.dk/review/Review%20Charger%20LiitoKala%20Lii-500%20UK.html

    Quote:
    Nor test (Charge, discharge & charge)

    I am not going to include many curves here, because it is a combination of the above.
    When doing a normal test the discharge capacity is measured. Remember the discharge current is not the selected current, but either 250mA or 500mA.


    So far, there is no indication that these are not clones ...
  • #19 17025418
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    Only that in the photos you can see how much was charged to the battery. For my part, EOT, because so far you have not posted anything that would confirm what you write.

    PS. When I was looking for a charger with capacity measurement, I spent a lot of time on it, nobody wrote anything about the V40 anywhere.
    PS2. Look for some V40 review written by a Pole, good luck.
  • #20 17026334
    CMS
    Administrator of HydePark
    siewcu wrote:
    Only that in the photos you can see how much was charged to the battery


    It is true. The charger counts capacity ALSO during normal charging. However, this does not change the FACT that capacitance is measured during discharge during the test.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    siewcu wrote:
    Look for some V40 review written by a Pole, good luck


    One is on the elektroda.pl portal :)
  • #21 17026420
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    Now look for the Lii-500 review and information that the V40 is its clone. Share your conclusions here.
  • #22 17030954
    szeryf3
    Level 29  
    Thanks for the test. He was very interesting to me.
  • #23 17031633
    byrrt
    Level 21  
    Tosz is a clone / counterfeit charger (Chinese and the rest) of the Litokala Lii-500 :) Its descriptions, with current graphs, etc., can be found on the Internet without any problems and, interestingly, if I remember correctly - it is cheaper :)

    As I have one - I can confidently recommend ..
  • #24 17042902
    SPEAKERS_XP
    Level 24  
    Personally, I quickly said goodbye to the Lii-500 due to the very poor handling of Ni-MH batteries - most batteries disconnect prematurely (leave undercharged) - after reaching the voltage threshold. In addition, the measurement accuracy [mAh] for Ni-MH at higher currents is difficult to accept - errors above 10%. Has anyone checked what it looks like in this V40? Of the universal ones, the Opus BT-C3100 I liked the most, but it is also not perfect for me when it comes to Ni-MH chemistry.
  • #25 17043147
    byrrt
    Level 21  
    I have the Lii-500 at home, the other one has a friend at work - I use it interchangeably. I have never encountered an undercharging title. The only thing with used, old batteries (this applies to Ni-Mh and Li-Po) can just charge them for a long time .. So much that they get warm and, according to the meter, pump up to 2x as much electricity as the cell has capacity ..
  • #26 17043203
    SPEAKERS_XP
    Level 24  
    The Lii-500 with Ni-MH charged me every time to ~ 1.48V voltage, regardless of the battery or the set current, while increasing the capacity indication - in this way, an unaware user is convinced that everything is fine. As a charger for Li-ion - OK, but in the case of Ni-MH the charging method is unfortunately simplified as much as possible. The worst thing will be with Eneloop batteries, where the battery can reach even more than 1.55V at higher charging currents - disconnecting it at 1.48V in addition without maintenance charging (as in the Lii-500) is a common misconception - it may be missing more than 10% to fully charge it - in the long run, the deepening effect of a lazy battery brick - it's a pity for the batteries.

    The thread, however, is about a different charger - I am very curious how the V40 is doing with Ni-MH.
  • #27 17043429
    siewcu
    Level 35  
    If the V40 is a clone of the Lii-500, why would it do better?
  • #28 17043449
    SPEAKERS_XP
    Level 24  
    There is probably no factory / manufacturer behind any of these brands - so I wouldn't assume they work identically. I don't know if the author has this option, but it would be nice to record the charging process for Ni-MH.
  • #29 17043646
    PiotrPitucha
    Level 34  
    Hello
    I have already written who has been producing the V40 under its own brand for many years, Google is already on the first page of the search. I'm not exaggerating whose clone is, my V40 charges the Panasonic NiMh up to 1.55V. I will check my Eneloop after lunch.
  • #30 17043952
    SPEAKERS_XP
    Level 24  
    A request for v40 owners to check / verify the results of the internal resistance - in the Lii-500 it resembled reading coffee grounds ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the VariCore V40 universal charger, which the original poster describes as a robust and versatile device capable of charging various battery types. The charger includes a 12V, 2A power supply and features protections against reverse battery connection, short circuits, and overcharging. Users express interest in the charger's performance, particularly in comparison to similar models like the Liitokala Lii-500. Several participants debate the accuracy of capacity measurements during charging versus discharging, and the handling of Ni-MH batteries. Concerns about the quality of the power supply and the potential for safety issues are also raised. Overall, the VariCore V40 is viewed positively, with some users recommending it despite its perceived similarities to other brands.
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