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  • #31
    Sas_AS
    Level 16  
    Kurka, as I read this, I think I'm starting to be really old ;) On the other hand, I am glad that at least I participated in this from the beginning.
    Spoiler:
    I started with 14.4K modems, real speed 1kB to 36.6K, real speed 2-3kB. Astronomical costs, at the level of x10 - x20 of a telephone subscription. US Robotics 56K, costs bearable, prepaid free tpsa sleepless nights, speed a little over 4kB, download times for mp3, first recorders and custom cd-audio compilations :) Then it's downhill: sdi 115.2K, adsl neostrada 1M then 2M (introduction of transfer limits, an offer to become a wifi service tester at a local operator), WiFi B / G, transfer at night for a few MB / s (wifi card in a stationary pc and panel antenna on the roof, initially for free as part of the tests), netia and a similar transfer as wifi (no limits, resignation from WiFi due to large and irregular ping for games, resignation from landline number, additional tps to maintain the line), WiFi on MikroTik, transfer over 10MB / s (small ping, no limits), additionally some tps incidental outside the place of residence and mobile internet such as Aero2 and LTE. I currently have FTTH. At the beginning it was 100 Mb / s down 20 Mb / s up, with no load on links 300 down / 20 up. I switched to 300 Mb / s down 40 Mb / s up, no load on connections 400 down / 50 up. Half a year ago I changed to 200 Mb / s download and 40 upload, with no load on 400/50 connections, at peak traffic it does not drop below 220/45. The only small disadvantage of optical fiber is the decrease in transfer by about half during the engine of storms or winds, due to the fiber swinging on electricity poles. It is a short-term illness, several times a year for several hours.
    I believe the future is fast upload for the "private user" at home. More and more "private users" are active in the media on the Internet. I meet with the opinion that I would like to have 300 Mb / s upload at home as well as download and it could even be associated with transfer limitations as in LTE "mobile internet". Users want to "quickly put something on the Internet" and go a step further without planning the time for you to be tied to your desk with your pc. Paradoxically, the will to "healthy and active presence on the Internet" may force some people to participate directly in social life. Of course, there is a balance somewhere in the division of users, between those who will actively create "healthy media content" and those who will read, watch, listen and comment on it.


    Sufficient for me "speed of the Internet" stationary is 200Mb / s download and 40Mb / s upload (in real terms up to 50Mb / s upload). At home, 5 PCs, several phones, a tablet and an e-book are connected to the network (no smart TV, box and other such). I came to the conclusion that 100 Mb / s download was enough for 2-3 people, you could rarely feel any slowdowns. The link sometimes clogged up during cloud upload, file upload or social media upload due to the 20 Mb / s upload. Switching to 300 Mb / s download and 40 Mb / s upload solved the problem. Under the download degradation to 200 Mb / s with 40 Mb / s upload and a few golds in my pocket, I did not notice any negative effects of reducing the download transfer.
    What "internet speed" is enough?
    What "internet speed" is enough?
  • #33
    tomason2
    Level 16  
    For me, I download max 120 Mbit / s and send max 30 Mbit / s.
    Sometimes you want more, to download something already ;-)

    I remember switching from the modem to the first permanent connection and magic transfers of 20-30kB / s.
  • #34
    speedy9
    Helpful for users  
    Inea is going to connect me a house in the country. The minimum I could choose was ... 600/600 Mb / s. Symmetrical optical fiber. It makes no sense, but 300/300 costs only PLN 10 less :P
    Considering that all devices continue to run on WiFi, it is impossible to really use such a band. Nice router for ~ 150 PLN really "extracts" max 100Mb / s after WiFi. And I'm afraid that most unknowing users are sitting on weaker hardware anyway. Fortunately, there are already relatively affordable routers (~ PLN 500) that can approach 1Gb / s, for example TP-LINK Archer C2300. But it's still close to the router anyway.
    I admit that the 60 Mb / s I had in my apartment earlier was enough for everything. After all, even Netflix 4k only requires 25Mbps ;)
    After moving I am sitting on mobile (LTE) and this is a disaster. It's not even about medium speed anymore. The problem that irritates me the most is that when I have one a week, maybe it's time to watch something in streaming, this streaming usually gets cut.
  • #35
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  • #36
    conrad9210
    Level 25  
    Welcome. I'm not that old, but the gate to the Internet was opened by entering the number 0202122 and the password ppp :) Who remembers the speed? And currently at home 120Mb / s. Enough for a TV, consoles, 2 computers and smartphones. best regards
  • #37
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist  
    And this advanced operator technology to support dial-up internet:



  • #38
    kaczakat
    Level 34  
    conrad9210 wrote:
    number 0202122 and password ppp
    After graduation, I switched from 100Mbit in the dormitory to a telephone connection, after the first package bill. It was painful. I've been waiting for optical fiber for 15 years.
  • #39
    conrad9210
    Level 25  
    My friend switched from the modem to the link in the dormitory and when he told me that by clicking he did not know if he was downloading mp3 or mp4, I did not believe him :) These were the times.
  • #40
    Tomek_Krecik
    Level 22  
    The Internet I have with T-Mobile is great, 110 Mbit in peak 130mbit after 20:00
    160mbit after 22:00 (probably depends on the bts load)
  • #41
    TechEkspert
    Editor  
    You touched on dial-up, distant times,
    if 0202122 still working?

    Years later, I even checked what the next phases of the modem connection are:


  • #42
    error105
    Level 14  
    Bandwidth is not only Upload and Download and LTE / 3G users know it very well ......
    So what if in theory I can download slightly with LTE 150Mbit, at the same time I can basically no longer browse the internet, so only the file is downloaded.
    Where, with Neostrada 20Mbit, and downloading the file, the Internet is still conveniently useful.

    Hence, stupid answers that someone Mbit alone is enough :)
  • #43
    waxman
    Level 20  
    30/10 Mbps per head is enough - depending on your needs, of course. Heavy users are around 1.5% to 2%, the rest do not use the potential of their link or cannot :)
  • #44
    Tomek_Krecik
    Level 22  
    As I look at the download, 70-80mbit corresponds to 6.5mbsec.
    110-130 = 12.5-13mb / sec
  • #45
    Wszechelektronik
    Level 12  
    In general, the development of the Internet is moving towards working in the cloud. In the future, you probably won't be installing the system at all. It may even come to the point that you only buy access to computing power. There will be no better and better computers at home, because there will be no home computers at all.
    Mountains of electro-waste will disappear ... Eventually, the entire picture can be transmitted with sound and control signals. And that can consume even more than 10Gb / s, depending on the resolution and smoothness of the image.
    18 years ago my modem pulled out 14kb ha ha and what will it be in 18 years? As anyone knows. it probably doesn't know anything. ;)
  • #46
    sanfran
    Network and Internet specialist  
    Wszechelektronik wrote:
    Mountains of electro-waste will disappear ...


    Forget it. Companies will not twist a rope around their necks voluntarily.
  • #47
    pawelr98
    Level 39  
    Wszechelektronik wrote:
    In general, the development of the Internet is moving towards working in the cloud. In the future, you probably won't be installing the system at all. It may even come to the point that you only buy access to computing power. There will be no better and better computers at home, because there will be no home computers at all.
    Mountains of electro-waste will disappear ... Eventually, the entire picture can be transmitted with sound and control signals. And that can consume even more than 10Gb / s, depending on the resolution and smoothness of the image.
    18 years ago my modem pulled out 14kb ha ha and what will it be in 18 years? As anyone knows. it probably doesn't know anything. ;)


    I will never go for something like this.
    I prefer to have a machine that works independently.
    In Bydgoszcz, it is definitely not profitable for me to use cloud services.
    The connection is so slow that it is faster for me to go to Gdansk with the hard drive to download. And I generally do this almost every week because I drive regularly anyway.

    After that, there are limits to how many people can use the link.
    If people switch entirely to data from the cloud, it may turn out that the current infrastructure will not be able to withstand it. In addition, large areas in many countries (including developed countries such as the USA or Western Europe) still do not have a broadband connection.

    The disappearance of electro-waste is utopia. Limited space in server rooms and profitability (performance / current) will require periodic replacement of the equipment with a more efficient one.

    Apparently, the use of equipment will be better because computers will practically never stand "out of work" but this translates into accelerated wear. Especially hard drives and high-performance GPUs.

    It is not without reason that some companies considered introducing a clause into the guarantee that the cards may not be used in cryptocurrency mines.
    Cards with such intensive use sometimes did not last until the end of the warranty and companies had to replace them for free.
  • #48
    barondary
    Level 19  
    50Mbit is enough for me to work freely, I upload little, download a lot.
    I don't use the cloud because I don't want my documents to be read and everyone knows what I'm doing. After all, securing the cloud with passwords by the average user is a delusion.
  • #49
    szczepan999
    Level 12  
    I have some 10 MBit down / 1 UP on GSM and it's enough for me.
    I started with modem 14400 a long time ago :)
  • #50
    Tomek_Krecik
    Level 22  
    Sucking 80gb of data is about 120 minutes on a 110mbps link.

    If time matters, these 2 hours are a long time, thus the connection from the machine is too slow :)
  • #51
    pablolinda
    Level 15  
    I currently have a vectra 50/5 Mbps link and I think that it is enough for one person, although UP could be at least as much larger as sometimes you want to send a movie.
    I recommend that you install the NetWorx program and set it on the system bar to show the current transfer and then you really know how much, what, what transfer reserve you need and how much free space is left.
    What "internet speed" is enough?


    I am annoyed with offers where you force more speeds to people for more money, like most people, and they will not use half of it.
    I am laughing at the conversations when you call me with the offer and tell me that now I have 50 Mbs, and if I would switch to 100 Mbps, the pages would open faster for me, which translators say that the pages will not open faster because on average, at least those on which I am looking at loads the connection in the range of 3-4 Mbps, the exception is the Play page, which can be consumed with 7 before it is fully loaded.
    The rest of my use is yt, which even in full HD in the post office accelerates to 40 for a while and then drops to 12 -15.
    Up to 4K, this link would probably also be enough for even 2 people.
    In addition, most people have weak computers, laptops from the market, the processors of which do not allow you to speed up to the maximum speed they got from the operator and use the built-in wi-fi card, often at 2.4 GHz, where the network blocks on these frequencies interfere with each other and then my brother-in-law calls me and asks why he has only 30 Mbps in the sped test, as he was driving 200 Mbps internet and even changing the channel did not help him much. fast connections make sense for a large number of households with good equipment after 5 GHz, or cable and having good data download sources, so what if I have 200 as a server only 100 uplaud.
  • #52
    E8600
    Level 40  
    That's the truth. The purpose of the seller is to sell and you need to be aware of how something works and where the weak point is in order not to pay wasted.
    You have to be aware of your real needs and not those created by marketing.
    Unfortunately, there is not only a small percentage of conscious users not only of the Internet.

    The offers are dominated by a significant asymmetry of the link, e.g. 200/20 mb / s. The problem is that today people are uploading more and more (cloud operations) and are forced to take a faster connection just to get a decent upload.
    To sum up, suppliers sell what we are not able to use anyway; for sale deaf violin.
  • #53
    pablolinda
    Level 15  
    E8600 wrote:
    You have to be aware of your real needs and not those created by marketing.
    Just told wisely, only people want to know you, and not look for a topic on the Internet, and then I am surprised that I know it all this way and I have it so cheap and they pay subscriptions for PLN 70 and have less than I have for a card, e.g.
    Symmetrical links would be the best, but they are usually expensive if 50/50 Mbps is already available to me calmly. It is a bit better with Lte because the sending speeds are higher there, usually for parents, I made internet with RBM for PLN 40 and in my location it is on average 25/20 Mbps, which is enough for them to use normally, despite the fact that I have a fiber optic outlet at home, but the company is out and they offer the lowest package for PLN 66 20 Mbps and if they put optical fibers, they had 10 for PLN 39, which I was able to take for my parents' needs, so that would be enough.
    But I prefer now mobile on a trellis and without a contract for 2 years than their fiber optic at this price after mimom the speed guarantee.
    And I start the transmitter from Orange for me, I will take a 85 GB package from them for PLN 25 per month, which is enough for parents, since now they do not exceed 60 per month.
  • #54
    RafalB

    Level 28  
    I am a bit sad because at work I only have 200mbps of upload and at home there is 1gbps and the VPN is working a bit lame between these locations. For me, a symmetrical 1gbps would be optimal :)
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