Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

Of course it is. But imagine that when getting into a taxi of some company after turning on the taximeter, you are not allowed to get off anywhere, or change the route, whatever happens. Wouldn't that make many people give up these taxis and look for another company? Of course, you can say that these are the rules of this company, but you can also complain about these regulations. Any other company reading these reviews will either compete or the former will change the rules.

Erbit wrote:

Those are the principles. You don't want it to be like that, don't put it up for auction.

I would like to remind you that we were moved allegrolally from above without accepting the regulations.

@ Erbit. Allegro can set the rules it wants. Within the limits of the law, of course. But why do you think (despite factual arguments that this particular rule is burdensome for sellers) that it is better this way. For example, I do not agree to these terms of sale and I will look for a website that will offer better conditions for me when I sell.

The buyer often withdrew and nothing seems to change in this regard. On the other hand, the sale transaction takes place at the end of the action, it seems more logical to me, and not at the moment of submitting the first purchase offer.

You are totally excited here with some details

And here on the internet I can see total silence.
In fact, after the thread HERE nothing ... nobody writes anything, basically a few media information appeared in August - September, except for nothing.
You can see this is the wisdom of the stage.
And you can actually see it on the Allegro itself, I can see it (when it did not surprise me much ... I did not pay attention) but there are very few private sellers on the Allegro - I will say there are practically none.
As I can see, the information ISSUING FVAT is not exactly a determinant. Scwaniaczki do not issue FVAT, or they avoid it in every possible way, I am talking mainly about small companies udus duduś (from the group today there is one other tomorrow) or put on poles (I wonder how many there are on the Allegro) - it can be interesting.
It's getting a little paranoid.

And is the argument of damage, theft, fire, etc. not enough to understand that such conditions create many problems.

Each stick has two ends. Janusz, bastards because they want to end the auction ahead of time with the cancellation of the bids? Janusz, smarts because I want to get the equipment, a car for 1 line or half free. On a normal Allegro it was possible to end the auction with the cancellation of offers, whether it is still unknown, but it is not locally available on the Allegro, so it is a change of the regulations which should be confirmed with the additional consent of the user, the more so as it is no longer Allegro but allegro locally, i.e. another creation .

Second thing, what about the ordinary human approach? Disappearance? Total desensitisation in all spheres of life? We all stick to the rules of the rules like robots? All are to be infallible? What about the fact that someone changed his mind, the equipment suddenly broke? I myself have had such adventures twice, or even the amount of the bidding does not satisfy me because at this moment there is little interest for some reason and the bellows was earlier, and I do not count on a large earnings, only at least an amount similar to the one I gave or slightly lower, assuming that the equipment is in the same condition as when I bought it, I used to sell a Japanese guitar for 1500 because no one was particularly interested, that two bellows previously had the same identical model and color even went for 2700.

The chat with the employee shows that until the payment is made, the item is not sold beautifully, but there is no option of not accepting payments or refunding the payment as it is on a normal Allegro so far. On the ordinary Allegro in the accounts, for example, the Allegro auction has the option of returning the payment, and the Allegro is locally not even though both are transactions through payu and both of these auctions appear in the accounts on the main Allegro! Something is grossly wrong here, confusion with confusion, as long as there is no sign of a crime! That's my opinion .

pokmijn wrote:

I would like to remind you that we were moved allegrolally from above without accepting the regulations.

This clean and transparent statement is the best summary of Allegro's illegal actions and treating the private user like just anyone and rolling him or her without petroleum jelly !! This is fine ? It is fair? This is sticking to the rules?
In an e-mail to the Allegro team, I wrote that I did not agree, neither agree nor will. And if nothing changes, I do not have to sell there, let alone buy anything, because there are a lot of online stores and I can handle the sale somehow.

Edit: Besides, if the buyer has the right to withdraw the offers in the auction, the seller also does it in the context of allegro.pl. And as for cheaters of all sorts of crooks, etc., the best indicator was the old comment system, it was not perfect (even retaliatory comments) but it was, and as I saw a type who had 100 negative comments out of 1000, I avoided the type who had 3 negatives out of 10, even if not I know what fants they had. It was also possible to see among buyers whether solid or, for example, buys and then does not pay. Somehow, ebay has a comment system all the time and no one came up with the idea to eliminate it because such actions lead to pathology and lead to it. From the type with a lot of negatives, fewer people buy, so he eliminates himself, and those who buy it at their own risk and let them spit in the beard themselves, unless they like gambling, but it's their choice. And today it is not known who you are dealing with, comments from buyers disappear after a year.

The shortcomings, to put it mildly, are on the Allegro side, not mine, and I do not consider what I wrote to be "whining", please do not offend me because I do not wish to do so !!

marioza wrote:

both of them I DON'T WISH !!

Don't scream because it's inelegant.
I wish you good health for Auntie's birthday. If you join the discussion, accept that someone has a different opinion and say it out loud.

marioza wrote:

even the amount of the auction does not satisfy me

Then put the goods on the amount that satisfies you. It's so hard? Is it easier to cancel all bids 10 seconds before the end of the auction?

marioza wrote:

well wrong, confusion with confusion, unless there are signs of a crime! That's my opinion .

pokmijn wrote:
I would like to remind you that we were moved allegrolally from above without accepting the regulations.

This clean and transparent statement is the best summary of Allegro's illegal actions and treating the private user like just anyone and rolling him or her without petroleum jelly !! This is fine ? It is fair? This is sticking to the rules?

And read the regulations do not you grace? What illegal, what without acceptance?

A quote from the Allegro regulations:


Article 14. CHANGES TO THE REGULATIONS

14.1.

Allegro.pl is entitled to amend the Regulations and the change becomes effective on the date indicated by Allegro.pl. The date of the change may not be shorter than 14 days from the moment the amended Regulations are made available on Allegro.

14.2.

Upon the first logging in to Allegro, from the moment the changes enter into force, the User will be notified of such changes and of the possibility of their acceptance. The acceptance of the changes is also considered to be the automatic renewal of the Offer ordered by the User, even if it takes place without logging in to Allegro and the first action performed by the User in Allegro, after the changes come into force, if the User remains logged in at that time. If the changes are not accepted, the User should immediately notify Allegro.pl of this in order to terminate the contract, using the form referred to in Art. 15.2. Provisions of Art. 15 shall apply accordingly.

My distinction. You agreed that you will be automatically affected by changes to the regulations if you log in and take any action.

The easiest way is to cry what an aggrieved person is, when you do not even know that you have stuck such a cone in ...

Erbit wrote:

marioza wrote:
... I have had such adventures myself twice, or even the amount of the auction is not satisfactory for me ....


This is a show for the amount that will satisfy you. I wrote about it all the time - you exhibit it, be aware of what and on what conditions you exhibit.

Sad, too short and inconsistently functioning our favorite auction site as an auction site to educate conscious (what is auctioning) users.

Włodzimierz Wojtiuk wrote:

Sad, too short and inconsistently functioning our favorite auction site as an auction site.

I'm not a fan of it "locally" - but in my opinion it could become such a platform in the future. However, it is devoid of some of the disadvantages and pathologies plaguing the previous one. Which disadvantages and pathologies I will not write again - in my previous posts it is already there.

If only the interface and the overall "look" improved, and the (unrealistic, I know) the margin would be lower ...

In the existing Allegro, it has recently been difficult to pick out something interesting in a flood of the same product in hundreds of different stores ... And maybe it would be better for Allegro to become such a local Aliexpress, and let A. Locally focus on providing a tool for traders of antiques, used clothes, collections of matchboxes and other goods removed from wardrobes and garages.

I don't know if it makes sense to argue about details.
Allegro Locally it is failure (from the point of view of someone who has used Allegro so far). Big commission, few options, few options, few photos ... so I pay more, I get less - I don't know people who would enjoy such a turn of events.

If anyone is interested in the topic, he knows that Allegro in many respects (e.g. market share) has reached its maximum in PL some time ago. In addition, the division of the Allegro group + change of owners + age-old complexes (copying someone else's, not always good solutions) and we have such an effect. Allegro wants to be like Amazon by for me it is a mistake and the beginning of a slow decline in the significance of the portal. Allegro's greed will not pay off here. Why? Well, in its original form, Allegro Group was almost impossible to move, and now ... there are more and more good quality online stores, there is OLX, Gratka, eBay, Google Merchant Center, one day it will be full Amazon, etc. etc. Instead of taking care of all Allegro users focuses on sellers ... okay, but it does not work for me - I am shopping outside Allegro more and more often, for example because it is cheaper. With each change in this website, my attachment to it decreases and I have been using Allegro for almost 19 years.

If you list on Allegro Lokalnie (without visibility on the main portal) as an auction, there is no commission, but also no Allegro services - it's a notice board like OLX.

10% (max PLN 50) is if you, as a private person, list with visibility on Allegro (Buy Now offers instead of auctions can only be issued in this way). Then online payments and the official shipping option come, but for example there are no cheap Parcel Lockers with free returns, only 5 photos, etc. It can be said that buying from a private person does not give the possibility of return, but I would never have a problem with this the item used turned out to be out of order, etc. (although this never happened).

Generally, even if you agree to these 10% / max. PLN 50 is still a private person much worse and much more primitive than it was before. I was wondering if it was to completely discourage private individuals from the main Allegro or to discourage private individuals from these only-local ads and extract the 10% commission on the main Allegro, but so that private offers do not make too much competition for companies (because they look much worse now). It seems that the latter is probably the second because after choosing an auction on Allegro Lokalnie (no commission) the right incentive to do but Buy Now on the main Allegro with this 10% commission, online payment.

Hello

The changes are to a great disadvantage for the ordinary Kowalski. The very idea of creating an Allegro branch could be interesting if we used everything that was proven and functioned to the satisfaction of the user in previous versions of the website. A nice similar platform would then be created for collectors and enthusiasts. Just so as not to mix the often unique general cargo among the new goods of large stores. Unfortunately, so far, as a private user for 16 years, I say that this is a total bottom. Yes, there is no need to use it (fortunately), but it's a pity, it's a pity .... Allegro was a certain lifestyle and state of mind for collectors and enthusiasts. Was ...
I greet the sober-minded colleagues from this discussion who made the post here. I will not write anything about the people from Allegro, who currently create them, because the entire text would be censored.

I don't know why are you beating so much of this foam ????
HE HHHHEHHHH ?? //?

you have ebay
The portal works conveniently, no one will loot you (as long as you avoid paypal)
It is probably not an allegro and its convenience, but compared to OLX or the current allegro for suckers it is a gap anyway
There will be moaning ...

Allegro Locally it bottom .
Absolutely impractical, emasculated interface. Commissions ... Hopeless form for adding an advertisement, idiotic limitation to 5 photos. Some of the account options are on Allegro Lokalnie, some on Allegro.pl. I don't know if there are auctions, but if so, what about Sniper.
Unfortunately, however, we can complain, but Allegro will do what it wants, because their monopoly has been bred.
The only thing that would be reasonable is to stop using this website (a rather small chance for it) when they would see that the statistics are falling on their heads. maybe something would change.

Yes, there is, for example, OLX, but there is always the risk of buying remotely, because sellers rarely want to agree to a courier for cash on delivery.

One can only say: PITY...

And after several years of buying / selling on Allegro, I sprayed them with a warm stream of urine and set up an account on ebay.pl
I am just a small speck among a swarm of its users, and I will not ruin them, but I will no longer bear the limitations of constantly raising protection money on sales.

I have just finalized my first transaction on the local allegro as a buyer. And, unfortunately, the item itself and the seller are all right, but I don't even know how to put a good or something on him.
strange this portal.

CodeBoy wrote:

I don't even know how to give him an asset or something

Nohow, this is a website for people who occasionally want to sell something, and not for traders building their brand.

@Novile I will not say anything, because for me it is not a disadvantage or a nuisance to log in once from the big bell, especially since an email is sent with a reminder. It would be different if the account had silently disappeared.

In addition, I create accounts on these platforms to use it and not to hoard it for years. And I am not persuading anyone to leave the wonderful Allegro or to love their local freak.
Everyone has their own mind, requirements and expectations, so they will make the decision on their own.

Well, my last few pennies, everyone is clinging to the minimum amount and issuing from some interesting amount for us. allegrolocal and olx, I issue a computer for PLN 3,000 and an olx for PLN 3500. And now, yes, I have an offer (bid) for an alle for PLN 3,100 (which fully satisfies me), but someone from olx calls me that he is at my place in an hour and I have 3500 in my hand. And what's better, it's better to have an extra 400 than not to have. At the time of listing on both portals, the equipment is mine. I have the right to do this. I can see that in a country where there is a fictitious ownership, I will not find many people who will understand my point of view.

pokmijn wrote:

Well, my last few pennies, everyone is clinging to the minimum amount and issuing from some interesting amount for us. allegrolocal and olx, I issue a computer for PLN 3,000 and an olx for PLN 3500. And now, yes, I have an offer (bid) for an alle for PLN 3,100 (which fully satisfies me), but someone from olx calls me that he is at my place in an hour and I have 3500 in my hand. And what's better, it's better to have an extra 400 than not to have.

It is (or at least was) inconsistent with the regulations .
The only decent method is to send this bidder back to auctions. which may result in an even higher sales amount (but not necessarily).

Let me remind you that the regulations were also created by Poles.