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  • #271 18282857
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Who give the name ...
    OLX - jokes (what is even the stitching system there - i.e. there is no one)
    ebay .... same

    You go on
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  • #272 18282868
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #273 18282878
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    movement :) jokes entries of a few dissatisfied on the electrode ...
    In fact, movement of hundreds of thousands has left Allegro :)

    The orphans are exposed locally and ... and nothing.
  • #274 18283030
    bruner
    Level 11  
    Hello,
    will join the thread.

    In my opinion, the new way of bidding is the most interesting.

    I joined the bidding at the end of the auction. Most people do this, after all, no one wants to bid earlier and raise the price pointlessly. Allegro found a way to do it locally in the new Allegro version, so if you join the bidding for 60 seconds. or less until the end of the auction, the offer is extended from the machine for another 5 minutes. :) So you can beat the offer to the effect. Of course, there is no longer a proven allegro solution in the form of an auction system consisting in indicating your max. prices. If the price was, for example, at PLN 100, and you raised at 150, then if the previous allegrowicz offered its price at PLN 102, you won the auction at PLN 103.

    Now, if you raise, for example, by PLN 50, it will remain so, even as the previous user gave the price of PLN 20. Total nonsense and in my opinion a fraud aimed at maximizing the profit allegro. After all, the 10% commission will be from this max. prices.

    I personally bought vinyls on the Allegro, I bid, and I think I will say goodbye to this portal, possibly I will have a less advantageous Buy Now option, where I cannot legally negotiate the price, because the Allegro spies on the correspondence. Unless you know how to get around this problem ;)
  • #275 18283072
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    If someone wants to have fun on the Allegro, you do not know what and how to bid
    Wania is a platform for scammers like OLX
    And if not, you can buy a guarantee for the gate and then we do not know each other.
    Even there, the comment system probably doesn't work ... better not ...
  • #276 18283248
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #277 18283284
    miroslaw wielki
    Conditionally unlocked
    So now these stars and reviews are not on the Allegro?
  • #278 18283426
    tzok
    Moderator of Cars
    The stars and reviews are for sellers only.

    bruner wrote:
    Of course, there is no longer a proven allegro solution in the form of an auction system consisting in indicating your max. prices. If the price was, for example, at PLN 100, and you raised at 150, then if the previous allegrowicz offered its price at PLN 102, you won the auction at PLN 103.
    ... but you will agree that it had little to do with the auction.
  • #279 18283443
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    piotr600 wrote:
    However, it is your responsibility to report the sale to the Tax Office and if you have exceeded the free amount, pay tax on the exceeded amount

    What amount?
    Unfortunately, I am a fan of novelties - buy, play and sell. Selling is sometimes profitable, but why should I pay for something that I have already paid for in the form of tax when I buy an item? And if not me, it's the first owner :)

    Added after 15 [minutes]:

    tzok wrote:
    The Regulations expressly prohibit the sale of goods put up for auction outside of the auction.

    Look at the shops - items are listed on the Allegro, but can still be purchased at the on-site store or on their websites.
    It is often the case that the Allegro is the last point of purchase, that is, if the store sells and at the same time on the Allegro, I simply receive an e-mail with the note "sorry, no product".
    I also post offers on 2/3 portals at the same time so that the buyer can buy the item cheaper (Allegro + PLN 50).
    I do not consider it as unfair behavior, but in my case, the first thing is either buy now or bidding - if someone buys / bids an item, offers outside the Allegro (olx) do not interest me even more.
  • #280 18283530
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    You don't get anything

    Allegro has become the main source (place) of e-commerce in Poland
    They are practically a monopolist, so they do what they want. A lot of stores - companies depend on them, people have learned that you buy on the Allegro (just like in the west on the Amazon) the allegro has become the Polish Amazon.
    Except that there is no competition.
    So ...

    And beating the foam that the Allegro will fall :) are funny (well, not funny) the AL portal will be junk and will not be particularly developmental (because they did not do it to develop it, but to get rid of priv sellers). In fact, they could close the sale to private sellers and what and nothing ... How would even the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection start to fake, they would go to some islands and they would know what to do.

    The main question is who is to blame for the users in this situation? Oh no (they never had anything to say). Should it be regulated, for example by the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection, in principle, I think that not because shoving your paws into trade is nothing good.

    The problem is one lack of healthy competition.
    And I do not think that such was created, as I have written many times, it does not exist.
    OLX has a bad opinion (sorry gregory, these are the facts) there is no search or security system of any kind, so it is generally avoided.
    ebay - so far practically with a negligible share
    Other sites mean something in the area of ZERO.

    So far, nothing on the Internet, in fact, only Ator had a broadcast and that would be the end.
  • #281 18283665
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #282 18283717
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #283 18283818
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Yee ...?
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=olx+fraud
    U ... something a lot.

    However, OLX has made such a reputation for itself sorry

    I am not saying that the Allegro is safe there, too, although the amount of it there fell to OLX.

    People who search on the Allegro and then buy via the seller's online store is an extremely small percentage and it does not threaten the Allegro in any way (moreover, the Allegro has done a lot to at least make it more difficult).
    Anyway, the scheme is as old as the world ...
  • #284 18283845
    Eidems
    Level 29  
    max-bit wrote:
    Yee ...?
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=olx+fraud
    U ... something a lot.

    However, OLX has made such a reputation for itself sorry

    I am not saying that the Allegro is safe there, too, although the amount of it there fell to OLX.

    People who search on the Allegro and then buy via the seller's online store is an extremely small percentage and it does not threaten the Allegro in any way (moreover, the Allegro has done a lot to at least make it more difficult).
    Anyway, the scheme is as old as the world ...

    I recently wanted to buy one item on OLX, I asked for cash on delivery. The guy said he couldn't afford cash on delivery and wanted payment in advance. Of course, I informed him that when sending cash on delivery, I can cover the cost of shipping (this is the case, for example, at the Polish post office), but the contact was interrupted.
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  • #285 18283848
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Novile wrote:
    When I found the product, I typed it into the browser and looked for a better price.

    And correctly.
    Only that for allegro there is (or was) a free return. In fact, I do the same as you do, but most of my purchases end up with Allegro - the price is cheaper and a free return if needed.
    max-bit wrote:
    U ... something a lot

    That's right. I used to report frauds several times a day and only from one category and one product, and despite the caution, I was cheated on not a small amount of money - the perpetrator on the fork, the case goes on.
    By the way, the sentences for frauds have been tightened.
  • #286 18284014
    Eidems
    Level 29  
    cichy koksik wrote:
    Novile wrote:
    When I found the product, I typed it into the browser and looked for a better price.

    And correctly.
    Only that for allegro there is (or was) a free return. In fact, I do the same as you do, but most of my purchases end up with Allegro - the price is cheaper and a free return if needed.
    max-bit wrote:
    U ... something a lot

    That's right. I used to report frauds several times a day and only from one category and one product, and despite the caution, I was cheated on not a small amount of money - the perpetrator on the fork, the case goes on.
    By the way, the sentences for frauds have been tightened.

    It's hard to find something cheaper than on Allegro, additionally with free shipping allegro smart. Also, if there is something actually cheaper, it comes from a store that has several opinions, and I don't want to risk $ 10 for a purchase in an unknown store. Sometimes there are promotions and in rtv euro agd or media expert stores, you can buy the goods at the online price and you do not bear the shipping costs.
  • #287 18284309
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Someone has rightly noticed Allegro wants to be the second Amazon. Allegro offers products at low prices on an increasing scale and these are products from their own warehouses or from stores with which they have signed contracts for better commissions in return for guaranteed sales. Such products are strongly advertised and sell very quickly, although they are not the cheapest choice on this website.
    Allegro may locally result from the "gray zone" of products downloaded from Alliexpress, and these products spoiled too unofficial Allegro stores on this website.
    Today, to buy the cheapest on Allegro, you have to do a good job because their algorithms take care of the website's profits.
  • #288 18284383
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    good ...
    New Google Regulations: YouTube Will Close Your Channel When You Have Little Earnings - Bank Commentator Analysis



    You can see that the idea is general and there are no coincidences here
  • #289 18284495
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    I mean, what will Google delete my account for?
    Good luck.
    And how will they profile me then? Since he gets other ads as logged in and others as not logged in, they rather earn something on it.
    And if he blocks it quite, he will earn quite a lot.

    If someone bases his business on YT, i.e. a Google product, then he has a grudge against the humble that their children are simple.
    This is no business, no creativity is simply serfdom. While force work can be called creativity, it is average, because youtuber has more or less to say than a serf in a clash with YT, maybe less. If someone has become addicted to Google in one way or another, they only blame themselves. Gogole wants the content he wants and he will enforce such content. whether they want LGBT for advertising or political reasons, it will be LGBT. They will want squirrel rabbits, they will want squirrel rabbits. You made this hydra yourself and raised it on your own blood and now you want to cut off its head?

    Just like the SEO / SEM industry, it is a great pains that Google changes its algorithms because their actions did not go in this direction, which goggles wanted its algorithms to spit out.
  • #290 18284509
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #291 18284558
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    Orwellek is coming true, huh?
    You are unnecessary to the system, ie you do not bring income, you do not let yourself be controlled, etc. THIS WON
    Snap and they'll shut you down.
    Wait wait until they do it at all ... they cut off the bank's financial services, etc.
    Remember many services are closely related, for example, with an email account, e.g. PayPal
    And for example, they will disable your PayPal account, it will say that you do not exist and the helmet you had there is no e-mail, no account, no helmets. Unreal ? There are already cases of blocking PayPal accounts, together with the cash register and what will you do to us.
    There is even no way to appeal because the Polish branch and if there is nothing will do and if you sue them, they will say that it is just nothing and the company is registered, no one knows where.
    And this is just the beginning of all this fun.

    Remember, losers, that the Internet is a MILITARY project probably preconceived in advance, which for the last 25-30 years has been shrouded in a FALSE truth (and actually a LIE) that it is such an island of freedom, an independent medium ... and the like. Of course, like any good DILER, first, on the basis of this LIE, people first found an addiction to this medium, and now the PIEREDYSKA period is slowly coming to an end and the time of TERROR is coming. And I think this is just the beginning.
    Hurts? only to begin.

    Added after 8 [minutes]:

    And soon, for example, you will have access to the operating system for mobile services.
    Someone gets it
    THIS is no fun it is.
  • #292 18284620
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @ max-bit
    I even bothered about it once, but now I quit. People understand such things only when they get into their own d..e.
    I have a Google account, although I defended myself for a long time and I only had one for the phone and another for the tablet.
    As for the mail, I do not use gmail at all.
    And you need to worry about virtualization of money because here is the real Orwell hiding. For unlawful conduct, you don't have a wallet and you won't buy yourself bread.
  • #293 18284635
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    And what are our people up to? Have you heard this man from finances? What does this say in broken Polish and is sent by a banker from the WYSP?
  • #295 18284919
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    Tommy82 wrote:
    I mean, what will Google delete my account for?

    Means, it will remove the possibility of uploading videos to yt.
    I do not understand your surprise because yt is their product and they can do whatever they want with it, and the garbage is full, so it's good that they are trying to clean it ...
    Nobody tells you to use yt, gmail or paypal and keeping more money there is pure stupidity.
    And as for the Allegro, I just sold the items and the summary comes from the machine, with the sum of the commission at the bottom.
  • #296 18284946
    Tommy82
    Level 41  
    @ silent koksik
    And let's remove it, do not throw it. This is what the problem of, among others, YouTubers is all about. As I wrote, they are serfs 2.0. As if they were arguing with the lord who told them to plant grain and that you would plant potatoes here.
    Sufficient to introduce demonetization for users not doing the conversion rate for sale not only for viewing ads and all channels for gimbus disappear.
  • #297 18285228
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    You see the number is like me, who learned and grew up on printed knowledge, where the acquisition of knowledge was done with the help of magazine books and when the device was built, it was first checked what you could buy in local stores (bazaars) and then something was just being built. But, of course, this applies to overall functioning.
    People born in the 90s, and even more so after 2000, is a different thing for them, the Internet is the only source of knowledge in any other environment. Very often their only knowledge is what such knowledge of English and sometimes the ability to pat a lousy (usually) code (then it is called an IT specialist).

    You need to understand what their goal is, and the goal is basically simple to create a society of the Soviet Union and the Soviet Man, as one editor says (Mr. Stanisław Michalkiewicz - I recommend Columns), they are people without their own opinion of their own will who are to be a mindless consumer and workman. What's more, he is not allowed to do anything and for him the decisions will be made by "Smarter"

    And the internet in its mass is to help create such a society, hence the activities of the corporation and just, for example, Google, you do not bring the corporation a profit, and even more so do not watch what they offer you (and this is also all well-made) you will be banned and ostracized and if not God forbid you say a sentence that is not OK according to them, you will become their enemy ....

    Someone will say this nonsense conspiracy theories right? I will ask what is happening, what is it?
  • #298 18285291
    zgierzman
    Level 31  
    bruner wrote:
    Now, if you raise, for example, by PLN 50, it will remain so, even as the previous user gave the price of PLN 20. Total nonsense and in my opinion a fraud aimed at maximizing the profit allegro. After all, the 10% commission will be from this max. prices.


    Fraud? What are you writing out, what scam?

    The fact is, this is the end of snipers and buying for next to nothing, but from a sellers' point of view, it's a good move. And finally, it resembles a real auction.

    And that the commission is high? You don't have to accept it. But its height is not hidden, so it cannot be said that it is a scam.
  • #299 18285406
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    OLX is a LOCAL ADVERTISING service.
    So if someone complains that he gave up there because he asked for a package and transferred the money to the account, it is not known who should report not to the police but to the doctor. To a judgment declaring life helplessness.

    OLX is something like a newspaper with classified ads used to be. Understand it.
  • #300 18285420
    cichy koksik
    Level 16  
    zgierzman wrote:
    And that the commission is high?

    Depends for whom. It was higher when I was selling the phone, about PLN 120 - now PLN 50.
    It is higher for low value items and lower for higher value items.
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek wrote:
    then he should report not to the police but to the doctor.

    I think it's high time you did it, since you see a trickster and a thief at every turn.
    They may as well cheat you on the Allegro or even in the store and that means that you are clueless? You would be helpless if you didn't do anything about it ...
    Understand that you have to put an end to cheaters, not the deceived.

    Added after 22 [minutes]:

    tomku77 wrote:
    It seems to me that you work at Allegro, or you have some other interest in it.

    Because I am describing what it is like?
    After all, it results from the regulations that you have not read and hence your entry, which has little to do with reality.
    Even when listing the item, you have the word "commission 10%, max PLN 50".
    tomku77 wrote:
    I sell various items and in each option it is more expensive at the moment, or possibly stays
    the old way.

    But are they different in terms of price? Sell the item for a thousand and then find out if it is more expensive / cheaper ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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