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Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

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  • #91 16075550
    maras77
    Level 21  
    A dryer MUST HAVE
    1. Class A for heat pump, B for condensing with heater.
    2. Measurement of the charge humidity and selection of the drying time according to the degree of drying

    The rest are nice additions.

    I use steaming - the steam generator steams the garment hot, refreshes the laundry and irons it. The 12-minute program can make a fainted suit and shirt look like they are ironed out.

    It is also useful for the warm air outlet to be at the front - I use this for additional drying of my shoes.

    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options


    A basket is also useful, also for drying shoes, but washed.
    Bosch Condenser Tumble Dryer: Comparing WTW85460PL Heat Pump Model and Conventional Options

    Whether a condensing heater or a heat pump - IMO - a heat pump only if there is a small, closed room for a dryer. Or someone has a lot of money.
    If it is supposed to stand in a dense, cold room, it is a condensation heater.

    And one more tip - condenser dryers with a heater can be bought without much risk, used in outlets, on olx, allegro, and with a heat pump I would be afraid.
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  • #92 16075818
    estor
    Level 14  
    Hello, and such a WHIRLPOOL DDLX80115 dryer is more expensive than Elecrolux, it costs 1550 but it is now on promotion with an extended warranty of up to 5 years. It pays off and can anyone say anything about the brand and model?
  • #93 16076567
    Jericho24
    Level 20  
    Can the condenser dryer be put in an unheated room? Utility room outside the building residential, not insulated
  • #94 16076773
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #95 16077856
    maras77
    Level 21  
    Jericho24 wrote:
    Can the condenser dryer be put in an unheated room? Utility room outside the building residential, not insulated


    Certainly it cannot be below 0 degrees, because the water (condensate) in tanks, pipes and pump will freeze. And probably after a few times something will open up.
    I would probably not give it below 5 degrees, because water will condense on the metal parts and it may rust.
  • #96 16079655
    Jericho24
    Level 20  
    maras77 wrote:
    Certainly it cannot be below 0 degrees, because the water (condensate) in tanks, pipes and pump will freeze. And probably after a few times something will open up.
    I would probably not give it below 5 degrees, because water will condense on the metal parts and it may rust.
    Then I'll check the room temperature this winter ;)
  • #97 16086569
    Askafu
    Level 1  
    Thank you for the substantive discussion. I want to buy a dryer, condenser, without pump, Bosch or Siemens. Unfortunately, when I bought a washing machine 4 years ago, I did not think that I would buy a dryer one day and that the spin speed (1000 or 1200) will affect the power consumption when drying so much. Unfortunately, I have 1000 revolutions. As a hopeless engineer for me, I wanted to make sure that I understood correctly:
    * if I have a washing machine with spin class C 1000 rpm, I have the manufacturer's indications dot for electricity consumption, multiply by 1.8-2
    * one drying, I think that on average it is around 4-5 kg, cotton will consume about 1.4 kWh (here data from the table from one of the previous posts) 260 dryings a year (family 2 + 3), it's some 360kWh, 56gr each will give me PLN 200 of the annual electricity cost? Something was not enough for me and I do not know where I am counting wrong.
    best regards
    And thank you for paying attention to the pluses of the pumpless device. I am a perfect example of a person who this marketing of companies works for and who almost bought self-cleaning equipment, with a pump, for well over 3,000 !!
  • #98 16087195
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #99 16113952
    Pawel1812
    Level 26  
    Heat pump only. I have tested and had several, both with the pump and heating elements from many Miele "honeycomb" manufacturers. The lower temperature inside the drum causes less damage to the clothes, i.e. destruction, in contrast to the classic condensation based on a heater, is imperceptible.
    Significantly lower energy consumption and heating the room in which the machine is standing.
    A bit more expensive, but it will pay off in terms of garment damage and energy consumption.
    Currently I have a pump and I can not imagine another - household members used to the pump to chase me out with a heater :)
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  • #100 16114306
    maras77
    Level 21  
    Pawel1812 wrote:
    Heat pump only. I have tested and had several, both with the pump and heating elements from many Miele "honeycomb" manufacturers. The lower temperature inside the drum causes less damage to the clothes, i.e. destruction, in contrast to the classic condensation based on a heater, is imperceptible.
    Significantly lower energy consumption and heating the room in which the machine is standing.
    A bit more expensive, but it will pay off in terms of garment damage and energy consumption.
    Currently I have a pump and I can not imagine another - household members used to the pump to chase me out with a heater :)


    Unfortunately, in the one with the pump, which I measured, the temperature was as high as in the heater, only later. The amount of heat produced - not much less, only over a longer period of time. In addition, the dryer with a pump does not have the option of cooling the charge, and the heater does. When the heat pump is turned off in a heat pump dryer, cooling is only caused by heat loss to the environment. The heater in the dryer turns off the heater, the exchanger continues to work and the dryer dries effectively.
    As a result, the temperature control in the heater is better than in the one with the heat pump.
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  • #101 16114345
    Pawel1812
    Level 26  
    How many dryers did my colleague maras77 compare, what brand that draws such conclusions? Have they been tested as operational?
    I don't know anyone who would have a heater and a pump, and would replace a heat pump dryer with a heater ...
  • #102 16114382
    maras77
    Level 21  
    Pawel1812 wrote:
    How many dryers did my colleague maras77 compare, what brand that draws such conclusions? Have they been tested as operational?
    I don't know anyone who would have a heater and a pump, and would replace a heat pump dryer with a heater ...


    You already know me. I compared the Electroluxes that I had both in parallel for a while.
    The heater works better for me. The dryer is located in the vestibule, so it has a cool environment that promotes effective work. It dries in half the time, it has steam ironing (a function I often iron jackets when they are foul).
    Additionally - the warm air outlet is at the bottom and dries the shoes on the occasion. And it's significantly quieter.
    And the difference in electricity consumption is only 20% in favor of the heat pump.
    Not to mention the cost of repair in the event of a breakdown, which is significantly lower in the heater.
  • #103 16152062
    donrzepka
    Level 2  
    Good morning

    I read the whole thread and I have already made my decision that I want a traditional dryer, no heat pump. I want to buy a Bosch and I have narrowed my selection down to 2 models:
    bosch-wtn86200pl
    bosch-wtg86400pl

    I was thinking of the WTG86400 but on Bosch's website I read that the cheaper 86200 is more energy efficient.
    Please advise which model to choose.
    And an additional question - can I put this dryer on the washing machine without any accessories - I have a small utility room at home and this would be my preferred setting.

    thank you in advance for your answers and advice
  • #104 16152142
    axpl
    Level 17  
    If you have a Bosch dryer and washing machine, put the dryer on top of the washing machine. I also have a small room, I bought a special connector from Bosch that includes a retractable shelf and I really recommend it.
  • #105 16153150
    Arbiter
    Level 15  
    This connector is just needed and is offered by Bosch. I don't think it will be very convenient to reach for the water tank.

    The connector seems to increase the build. It is possible to put the dryer on the washing machine, even in Bosch's showroom it is like that
  • #106 16153414
    donrzepka
    Level 2  
    I have a Bosch washing machine, the Maxx 7 series - are these stands are universal and fit different models?
    And I come back to the main question - which model is better or what are the characteristics of both - there is probably some detail that as an amateur I cannot see, such as a more convenient emptying of the tank or a better metal alloy in the contact plug
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  • #107 16153442
    maras77
    Level 21  
    donrzepka wrote:
    Good morning

    I read the whole thread and I have already made my decision that I want a traditional dryer, no heat pump. I want to buy a Bosch and I have narrowed my selection down to 2 models:
    bosch-wtn86200pl
    bosch-wtg86400pl

    I was thinking of the WTG86400 but on Bosch's website I read that the cheaper 86200 is more energy efficient.
    Please advise which model to choose.
    And an additional question - can I put this dryer on the washing machine without any accessories - I have a small utility room at home and this would be my preferred setting.

    thank you in advance for your answers and advice


    They differ in capacity - one is 7 kg and the other is 8 kg

    http://www.bosch-home.pl/produkty/pralki-i-su...bran/suszarki-tradycyjne/WTG86400PL.html#tab2
    http://www.bosch-home.pl/produkty/pralki-i-su...bran/suszarki-tradycyjne/WTN86200PL.html#tab2

    Hence the difference in energy consumption when drying the WHOLE LOAD.
  • #108 16153499
    donrzepka
    Level 2  
    maras77 wrote:
    donrzepka wrote:
    Good morning

    I read the whole thread and I have already made my decision that I want a traditional dryer, no heat pump. I want to buy a Bosch and I have narrowed my selection down to 2 models:
    bosch-wtn86200pl
    bosch-wtg86400pl

    I was thinking of the WTG86400 but on Bosch's website I read that the cheaper 86200 is more energy efficient.
    Please advise which model to choose.
    And an additional question - can I put this dryer on the washing machine without any accessories - I have a small utility room at home and this would be my preferred setting.

    thank you in advance for your answers and advice


    They differ in capacity - one is 7 kg and the other is 8 kg

    http://www.bosch-home.pl/produkty/pralki-i-su...bran/suszarki-tradycyjne/WTG86400PL.html#tab2
    http://www.bosch-home.pl/produkty/pralki-i-su...bran/suszarki-tradycyjne/WTN86200PL.html#tab2

    Hence the difference in energy consumption when drying the WHOLE LOAD.


    Thank you, I'm ordering the WTG86400.
    Ps. professional forum, it was nice to read the exchange of opinions and opinions. Thank you
  • #109 16153783
    barti44
    Level 9  
    This is exactly what I bought two months ago. Amazing, you will be pleased.
  • #110 16161250
    Agnieszkaklysz
    Level 1  
    I read the whole discussion about dryers and almost made a decision to buy the BOSCH WTG86400PL model, just like my previous speaker, but in the store I saw that instead of buttons they have such a touch display. I am afraid that it may break down quickly, or not a better solution with buttons, such as in the BOSCH WTB86211PL or BOSCH WTB86201PL dryer, would be better. I had a touch phone that did not respond to touch after a short time, so I am afraid of such solutions in household appliances. Would a post-warranty repair of such a sensor be expensive? Maybe I am unnecessarily afraid, but someone tell me. Thank you in advance and please let someone who bought such equipment write after a year or several years of how it works. For someone who is faced with the choice of purchase, this is very valuable information.
  • #111 16179030
    rudy_stp
    Level 9  
    Pawel1812 wrote:
    Heat pump only. I have tested and had several, both with the pump and heating elements from many Miele "honeycomb" manufacturers. The lower temperature inside the drum causes less damage to the clothes, i.e. destruction, in contrast to the classic condensation based on a heater, is imperceptible.
    Significantly lower energy consumption and heating the room in which the machine is standing.
    A bit more expensive, but it will pay off in terms of garment damage and energy consumption.
    Currently I have a pump and I can not imagine another - household members used to the pump to chase me out with a heater :)


    Reading the whole thread, I have already turned so much that I do not know whether with or without a pump. But I know that after the flap (shrinkage and destruction of clothes) with Electrolux EDH 13386GW I want to buy something from Miele because at least I will know that it will not get any better.

    Which Miele dryers have you tested? I hesitate between the regular TDA 150 and the TKB 150 pump. I don't know what to choose. the room is a medium-sized bathroom with underfloor heating (a rather warm room because everyone likes it) and a built-in back and left side in the place where the dryer is to stand (I have read the instructions for both and there is nothing about any restrictions as to alignment, but the TDA 150 has an air inlet with back), maybe someone will tell you if this disqualifies her.
  • #112 16179060
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #113 16179095
    rudy_stp
    Level 9  
    my41s wrote:
    rudy_stp wrote:
    But I know that after the flap (shrinkage and destruction of clothes) with Electrolux EDH 13386GW I want to buy something from Miele because at least I will know that it will not get any better.

    If you have this dryer, why do you want to change? Due to shrinkage of clothes? If so, check the labels on the clothes.


    The dryer is terrible. Sooner or later, she'll ruin any piece of clothing. Two sizes down is no problem for her. It is even difficult to count the clothes that went to be fired. No program is safe because one time it will be successful and one time it will be taken out instead of a white t-shirt, it is not known what (there is no rule whether it's Reserved or Ralph Lauren).

    But I will add honestly that I do not look at the tags. I mainly use the lightest programs (delicate and special for wool). If I were to dry only clothes with appropriate tags, the purchase of a dryer would be pointless because almost every manufacturer writes on the clothes that they are not suitable for the dryer.
  • #114 16182815
    dozoku
    Level 11  
    Hello, I would like to connect to the topic, because I - after a recent purchase of a washing machine - intend to buy a dryer. I have read the entire thread and, like my predecessors, I have a problem with or without a heat pump? Since the dryer for me is a luxury device and not one that I would not be able to live without, I have the two cheapest types:

    Condenser dryer EDP12074PDW - without a heat pump, good reviews on the Internet, galvanized drum, price approx. PLN 1,450

    Gorenje D7564 condenser dryer - with heat pump, galvanized drum, the instructions show that the pump filter should be cleaned every few drying cycles (apart from the traditional dryer filter which is cleaned every drying), so there is access to the heat pump (you can find instructions on how to to do this and it is probably not a man, attached), price approx. PLN 1870

    I am afraid that the heat pump may break down, I am also afraid that the drum will fall apart - someone wrote about something like that before.
    Does the type of steel matter?
    Can access to the pump filter help in its operation? Will cleaning this filter every 5 dryings (in accordance with the instructions) become troublesome?

    What do you recommend? Which of my picked dryers should be better?
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  • #115 16219719
    dozoku
    Level 11  
    dozoku wrote:
    Hello, I would like to connect to the topic, because I - after a recent purchase of a washing machine - intend to buy a dryer. I have read the entire thread and, like my predecessors, I have a problem with or without a heat pump? Since the dryer for me is a luxury device and not one that I would not be able to live without, I have the two cheapest types:

    Condenser dryer EDP12074PDW - without a heat pump, good reviews on the Internet, galvanized drum, price approx. PLN 1,450

    Gorenje D7564 condenser dryer - with heat pump, galvanized drum, the instructions show that the pump filter should be cleaned every few drying cycles (apart from the traditional dryer filter which is cleaned every drying), so there is access to the heat pump (you can find instructions on how to to do this and it is probably not a man, attached), price approx. PLN 1870

    I am afraid that the heat pump may break down, I am also afraid that the drum will fall apart - someone wrote about something like that before.
    Does the type of steel matter?
    Can access to the pump filter help in its operation? Will cleaning this filter every 5 dryings (in accordance with the instructions) become troublesome?

    Can someone add something?
    What do you recommend? Which of my picked dryers should be better?
  • #116 16219730
    levy^
    Level 17  
    If you are afraid that it will break down or the cleaning itself will cause you trouble, you better buy nothing.
  • #117 16223823
    endrju_m
    Level 2  
    Does anyone know what is the difference between WTN86201 and Bosch WTG86400?

    Supposedly WTG86400 is Series 6 and WTN86201 is Series 4, but after looking at the specifications, the only difference is the inscription, plus trifles:
    - updated door design to match the current Bosch style
    - The WTG86400 has a dedicated beep button, but either way, both models still have the ability to turn on / off and adjust the volume of the signal.

    Perhaps the only difference is that the WTG86400 is made in Germany (because it is also available there)? This is just my guess as to the country of production, because I have nowhere to check it.

    Link to the comparison on the manufacturer's website: http://www.bosch-home.pl/product-comparison.html?ps=WTN86201PL,WTG86400PL
  • #118 16280328
    tomcy007
    Level 1  
    I have used the AEG LAVATHERM 56840 dryer for almost 7 years
    - after 3 years and 3 months, the resistor / triac on the board died (I do not know if its use is to limit the life of the device) replacement cost PLN 2.50 plus patience when soldering on the site they wanted PLN 500 for the plate plus 200-250 for replacement
    - the second problem has recently started - error E50 (problem with the drive) - but after opening the dryer and moving the drum to the right and left - the dryer starts working normally

    I am happy with the dryer and I wonder if the next one will be with or without a pump, taking into account the amount of "shit", I rather opt for a solution without

    Due to the fact that the old dryer starts to rain, it is looking for a new one, but:
    stands on the washing machine
    in the closet in the hall
    which is a must
    draw in air from the front and expel it from the front as well

    Has anyone noticed such information in the description of the models on the website, I will be grateful for the info
  • #119 16283888
    levy^
    Level 17  
    tomcy007 wrote:

    - the second problem has recently started - error E50 (problem with the drive) - but after opening the dryer and moving the drum to the right and left - the dryer starts working normally



    Replace the capacitor from the main motor.
    Which service did you want to count so much?
  • #120 16290033
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    I was able to check the energy consumption of a heat pump dryer and I stick to the opinion that a model without a heat pump is a better choice.
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The discussion revolves around the comparison between Bosch's heat pump dryer model WTW85460PL and conventional condensing dryers. Users express concerns about the reliability and maintenance of heat pump dryers, citing high repair costs and potential breakdowns. Many recommend traditional condensing dryers for their simplicity and lower failure rates. The Bosch WTG86400PL is frequently mentioned as a reliable alternative. Users highlight the importance of energy efficiency, drying quality, and the impact of drying temperatures on clothing longevity. The conversation also touches on the practicality of self-cleaning condensers and the overall user experience with various brands and models.
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