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  • ElektrodaBot is upgraded to GPT-4.0 and offered as a free bot for answering electronics questions.
  • The service routes user questions to ChatGPT-4, with the goal of improving accuracy over the older knowledge base.
  • A ceramic capacitor marked "103" serves as the test case, and the earlier GPT-3 calculation called it 10^3 pF, 10000 pF, or 10 nF.
  • The example exposes a calculation error in the older response, which should have been 10^4 pF or 10*10^3 pF.
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  • BK7231T no longer starts setup access point

    #121 21104948
    evaluation
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    I have a PCB disassembled from a RGB bulb with an BK7231T chip on it.
    I successfully flashed OpenBeken to it, connected to the devices Access Point, were able to configure details and so on.
    Unfortunately the device does not create this internal access point anymore. Usually you can request it do start this access point by poweing it down and up 5-6 times. But is does not work anymore.
    Do you have any idea what happened and how I can solve it?
    I already flashed the device again with OpenBeken and were able to create a backup. So the communication with the BK7231T chip is still working fine.
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  • OpenBeken AP mode no longer starts after power cycling

    #122 21104951
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    evaluation wrote:
    (...) do start this access point by poweing it down and up 5-6 times. But is does not work anymore.
    Do you have any idea what happened and how I can solve it?
    I already flashed the device again with OpenBeken and were able to create a backup. So the communication with the BK7231T chip is still working fine.
    It sounds like you have done a great job so far in flashing the OpenBeken firmware to your BK7231T chip and initially getting it to work. However, the issue with the device not creating its internal access point (AP) and not responding to the power cycle method suggests there might be a configuration or firmware-related issue. Let's troubleshoot the issue step-by-step and explore potential solutions.

    Step-by-Step Troubleshooting

    1. Verify Power Cycling Method:
    - Ensure you are following the correct power cycling procedure. Typically, the device needs to be powered on and off in quick succession (5-6 times) within a specific time frame to trigger AP mode.
    - Confirm that the timing of the power cycles is consistent with the instructions provided by OpenBeken.

    2. Check for Configuration Issues:
    - Since you can still communicate with the BK7231T chip, check the current configuration settings. There might be settings preventing the device from starting the AP.
    - Look for any settings related to Wi-Fi modes, AP behavior, or network configurations that might need adjustment.

    3. Factory Reset:
    - If possible, perform a factory reset of the OpenBeken firmware. This should revert the device to its default settings, including enabling the AP mode. Check the OpenBeken documentation for the factory reset procedure.

    4. Check Logs and Diagnostics:
    - If OpenBeken provides access to logs or a diagnostics interface, review the logs for any errors or warnings related to Wi-Fi or AP mode.
    - Look for any specific error messages that might indicate what is preventing the AP from starting.

    5. Re-flash the Firmware:
    - Although you have already re-flashed the firmware, it's worth trying again to ensure no issues occurred during the process. Use the latest stable version of OpenBeken, and verify the integrity of the firmware file before flashing.
    - After re-flashing, perform a factory reset to ensure the device starts with default settings.

    6. Check for Hardware Issues:
    - While less likely, it's possible there could be a hardware issue affecting the Wi-Fi module. Inspect the PCB and components for any visible damage or loose connections.
    - Ensure the power supply is stable and providing sufficient power to the device.

    Potential Solutions

    1. Reconfigure via Serial Connection:
    - If the device has a serial interface, you might be able to connect via a serial terminal and reconfigure the Wi-Fi settings directly.
    - Use a serial-to-USB adapter and connect to the BK7231T chip's serial interface. Access the console and check or modify the Wi-Fi settings to re-enable the AP mode.

    2. Manual Configuration File Edit:
    - If OpenBeken allows for manual editing of the configuration file, you might be able to modify the settings directly. This could involve downloading the configuration file, editing it to re-enable AP mode, and then re-uploading it to the device.

    3. Consult OpenBeken Documentation and Community:
    - Review the OpenBeken documentation and any available troubleshooting guides. There might be specific instructions for resolving AP mode issues.
    - Engage with the OpenBeken community or support channels. Other users might have encountered similar issues and could offer insights or solutions.

    Example Commands for Serial Configuration (Hypothetical)

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    Final Thoughts

    By following these steps and exploring the potential solutions, you should be able to diagnose and hopefully resolve the issue with your BK7231T chip not creating the internal access point.

    If you encounter specific errors or need further assistance, please share more details about the configuration settings, logs, or any error messages you observe, and I'll be happy to help you troubleshoot further.
    You can call me in any topic by writing @ElektrodaBot. Disclaimer: Some answers provided by the ElektrodaBot may be inaccurate. Elektroda not responsible for accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information presented. All ElektrodaBot responses should be verified by the user. OpenAI can monitor and save information entered after calling ElektrodaBot.
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  • #123 21129301
    Tilator
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    While power is lost and comes on again, OpenBeken devices boot up first and router giving DHCP after that.

    Then OpenBeken devices get IP address, but router seems to be missing OpenBeken device names.

    How can I fix this?
  • Use DHCP reservations for OpenBeken devices

    #124 21129321
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    Tilator wrote:
    While power is lost and comes on again, OpenBeken devices boot up first and router giving DHCP after that.

    Then OpenBeken devices get IP address, but router seems to be missing OpenBeken device names.

    How can I fix this?
    The issue you're experiencing with OpenBeken devices not retaining their names in the router's DHCP client list after a power interruption is a common problem in scenarios where devices boot up before the router can fully provide network services. Here’s a detailed approach to help fix this issue:

    Understanding the Problem
    When power is restored, OpenBeken devices boot up faster than the router. Because the router takes additional time to fully initialize and provide DHCP services, the OpenBeken devices might not properly register their hostname with the DHCP server or might get an IP address before the router can assign a name.

    Solutions to Retain Device Names

    1. Enable Static IP Assignment:
    Static IP addresses can prevent the issues caused by DHCP delays. Assign a fixed IP address to each OpenBeken device either through the OpenBeken configuration or directly in the router's settings.

    Router Configuration:
    - Access your router's administration interface (usually accessible through a web browser).
    - Locate the DHCP settings or the section where you can manage DHCP reservations.
    - Add a reservation for each OpenBeken device using its MAC address, assigning a specific IP address and hostname.

    2. Increase Device Boot Time Delay:
    Introducing a boot delay in the OpenBeken firmware might allow the router more time to initialize before the devices request IPs.

    OpenBeken Configuration:
    - Modify the OpenBeken settings to implement a delay before attempting to connect to the network.
    - You might need to explore the firmware documentation or source to add a delay (often configurable in seconds) to the device’s initial startup script.

    3. Use mDNS/Bonjour for Device Discovery:
    Implementing mDNS (Multicast DNS) allows devices to discover each other on the local network without relying on traditional DNS services.

    OpenBeken Configuration:
    - Check if OpenBeken supports mDNS (also known as Bonjour in Apple devices). This service broadcasts device names and services locally.
    - Enable mDNS in the OpenBeken settings, if available. This will help your devices announce their presence and names independently of the router's DHCP.

    Detailed Instructions

    Static IP Assignment

    1. On the Router:
    - Log into your router (usually at `http://192.168.1.1` or similar).
    - Navigate to the DHCP section. It might be under Network Settings, LAN, or Advanced Settings.
    - Find the section for DHCP reservations.
    - Add a new reservation: Input the MAC address of your OpenBeken device, the desired static IP address, and the hostname.
    - Save the changes and reboot the router if necessary.

    2. On OpenBeken Device:
    - Connect to the OpenBeken device’s web interface.
    - Go to Network Settings.
    - Select "Static IP" and input the IP address, subnet mask, gateway, and DNS server.
    - Save and reboot the device.

    mDNS Configuration

    1. Check OpenBeken Support:
    - Ensure the OpenBeken firmware version you are using supports mDNS. Check the documentation or firmware repository for this feature.

    2. Enable mDNS:
    - Access the OpenBeken device’s web interface.
    - Navigate to the Network or Advanced Settings section.
    - Find and enable the mDNS setting.
    - Save and reboot the device.

    3. Verify mDNS Operation:
    - Use a network scanner app on your smartphone or a tool like `avahi-browse` on Linux to verify that the device broadcasts its name on the network.

    Additional Considerations

    - Firmware Updates: Ensure both the OpenBeken firmware and the router firmware are up-to-date. Updates might include improvements and bug fixes related to DHCP and network handling.
    - Network Configuration: Review your network setup. Ensure there are no conflicts or misconfigurations that could be causing the issue. This includes checking the DHCP lease time and ensuring no network segments or IP ranges are overlapping.
    - Device Reinitialization: After making changes, perform a controlled power cycle: power off the devices, then the router. Power on the router first, wait for it to fully initialize, then power on the OpenBeken devices.

    Example Configuration File Edits (Hypothetical)

    If manual configuration on the OpenBeken firmware is needed, you might edit a configuration file (if firmware supports this method):

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    By setting static IPs and possibly enabling mDNS along with a boot delay, your devices should be able to retain their names and function correctly even after power interruptions. If you need further assistance, feel free to provide more details about your setup, and we can delve deeper into the problem.
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  • Delayed OpenBeken boot to wait for DHCP server

    #125 21129379
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    >>21129321

    Second solution:

    It sounds like you're experiencing a common issue where your OpenBeken devices boot up and request IP addresses from the router before the router's DHCP server is fully operational. This can lead to the devices receiving IP addresses but not being properly registered with their names in the router's DHCP table. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the problem and potential solutions:

    Problem Analysis

    1. Power Loss & Startup Sequence: When power is lost and then restored, both your router and OpenBeken devices reboot. However, the OpenBeken devices boot up faster than the router.
    2. DHCP Request Timing: The OpenBeken devices send DHCP requests for IP addresses before the router's DHCP server is fully ready.
    3. Incomplete Registration: The router assigns IP addresses to the OpenBeken devices, but it doesn't register their names because its device name resolution or network scanning functionalities are not yet fully operational.

    Potential Solutions

    1. Delay OpenBeken Boot-up

    One way to address this issue is to delay the boot-up of your OpenBeken devices, allowing the router to be fully operational before the devices request IP addresses.

    - Check for Delay Settings: Look into the settings of your OpenBeken devices to see if there is an option to delay their network connection on startup. This delay can give your router enough time to be ready.
    - Use Smart Plugs: If the devices do not have a built-in delay setting, consider using smart plugs with staggered power-on schedules. Set the OpenBeken devices to power on a few minutes after the router.

    2. Configure Router Settings

    Adjusting settings on your router can also help ensure that the OpenBeken devices are properly registered.

    - Increase DHCP Lease Time: Log into your router’s configuration page and navigate to the DHCP settings. Increasing the DHCP lease time ensures that devices retain their assigned IPs for a longer period, reducing the frequency of DHCP requests during startup.
    - Assign Static IP Addresses: Assign static IP addresses to your OpenBeken devices within the router’s DHCP reservation table. This bypasses the dynamic assignment process and ensures consistent recognition.

    3. Update Firmware

    Ensure that both your router and OpenBeken devices are running the latest firmware versions. Firmware updates often contain bug fixes and optimizations that could address this issue.

    - Router Firmware: Check the manufacturer’s website for the latest firmware version for your router and follow the instructions to update it.
    - OpenBeken Firmware: Similarly, check for firmware updates for your OpenBeken devices and update them accordingly.

    4. Modify OpenBeken Configuration

    You can configure your OpenBeken devices to broadcast their names to the network before they receive an IP address.

    - Access Configuration File: The configuration file for OpenBeken devices is typically stored in the device’s LittleFS file system. You can access this file through the OpenBeken web interface or by using a tool like the OpenBK7231T flash tool.
    - Set DHCPName and DHCPWait Options: Modify the configuration file to include the `DHCPName` and `DHCPWait` options. This ensures that the device broadcasts its name to the network and waits for the router to be ready.

    Example configuration:
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    [DHCP]
    DHCPName = true
    DHCPWait = 10


    - Restart the Device: After making these changes, restart the OpenBeken device to apply the new configuration.

    Troubleshooting Tips

    - Power Cycle: Perform a full power cycle by turning off both the router and OpenBeken devices, waiting a few minutes, and then powering on the router first, followed by the OpenBeken devices.
    - Monitor Device List: After the network stabilizes, check your router’s device list or connected devices page to see if the OpenBeken devices are now being recognized with their names.

    Conclusion

    By following these steps, you should be able to ensure that your OpenBeken devices consistently register their hostnames with the router after a power cycle. If the issue persists, providing more details about your router model and OpenBeken device specifics would help in suggesting more targeted solutions.
  • Router boots too slowly for DHCP hostname registration

    #126 21129384
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    Tilator wrote:
    (...) following these steps, you should be able to ensure that your OpenBeken devices consistently register their hostnames with the router after a power cycle. If the issue persists, providing more details about your router model and OpenBeken device specifics would help in suggesting more targeted solutions.
    It sounds like you're experiencing a common issue where your OpenBeken devices boot up and request IP addresses from the router before the router's DHCP server is fully operational. This can lead to the devices receiving IP addresses but not being properly registered with their names in the router's DHCP table. Here’s a detailed breakdown of the problem and potential solutions:

    Problem Analysis

    1. Power Loss & Startup Sequence: When power is lost and then restored, both your router and OpenBeken devices reboot. However, the OpenBeken devices boot up faster than the router.
    2. DHCP Request Timing: The OpenBeken devices send DHCP requests for IP addresses before the router's DHCP server is fully ready.
    3. Incomplete Registration: The router assigns IP addresses to the OpenBeken devices, but it doesn’t register their names because its device name resolution or network scanning functionalities are not yet fully operational.

    Potential Solutions

    1. Delay OpenBeken Boot-up

    One way to address this issue is to delay the boot-up of your OpenBeken devices, allowing the router to be fully operational before the devices request IP addresses.

    - Check for Delay Settings: Look into the settings of your OpenBeken devices to see if there is an option to delay their network connection on startup. This delay can give your router enough time to be ready.
    - Use Smart Plugs: If the devices do not have a built-in delay setting, consider using smart plugs with staggered power-on schedules. Set the OpenBeken devices to power on a few minutes after the router.

    2. Configure Router Settings

    Adjusting settings on your router can also help ensure that the OpenBeken devices are properly registered.

    - Increase DHCP Lease Time: Log into your router’s configuration page and navigate to the DHCP settings. Increasing the DHCP lease time ensures that devices retain their assigned IPs for a longer period, reducing the frequency of DHCP requests during startup.
    - Assign Static IP Addresses: Assign static IP addresses to your OpenBeken devices within the router’s DHCP reservation table. This bypasses the dynamic assignment process and ensures consistent recognition.

    3. Update Firmware

    Ensure that both your router and OpenBeken devices are running the latest firmware versions. Firmware updates often contain bug fixes and optimizations that could address this issue.

    - Router Firmware: Check the manufacturer’s website for the latest firmware version for your router and follow the instructions to update it.
    - OpenBeken Firmware: Similarly, check for firmware updates for your OpenBeken devices and update them accordingly.

    4. Modify OpenBeken Configuration

    You can configure your OpenBeken devices to broadcast their names to the network before they receive an IP address.

    - Access Configuration File: The configuration file for OpenBeken devices is typically stored in the device’s LittleFS file system. You can access this file through the OpenBeken web interface or by using a tool like the OpenBK7231T flash tool.
    - Set DHCPName and DHCPWait Options: Modify the configuration file to include the `DHCPName` and `DHCPWait` options. This ensures that the device broadcasts its name to the network and waits for the router to be ready.

    Example configuration:
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    - Restart the Device: After making these changes, restart the OpenBeken device to apply the new configuration.

    Troubleshooting Tips

    - Power Cycle: Perform a full power cycle by turning off both the router and OpenBeken devices, waiting a few minutes, and then powering on the router first, followed by the OpenBeken devices.
    - Monitor Device List: After the network stabilizes, check your router’s device list or connected devices page to see if the OpenBeken devices are now being recognized with their names.

    Conclusion

    By following these steps, you should be able to ensure that your OpenBeken devices consistently register their hostnames with the router after a power cycle. If the issue persists, providing more details about your router model and OpenBeken device specifics would help in suggesting more targeted solutions.
    You can call me in any topic by writing @ElektrodaBot. Disclaimer: Some answers provided by the ElektrodaBot may be inaccurate. Elektroda not responsible for accuracy, reliability or completeness of the information presented. All ElektrodaBot responses should be verified by the user. OpenAI can monitor and save information entered after calling ElektrodaBot.
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  • Calculating 27-inch 16:10 screen dimensions

    #127 21215192
    kuka609732397
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    ElektrodaBot wrote:
    gulson wrote:
    Give an example of how to calculate the width and height of a screen knowing its diagonal and aspect ratio.
    Calculate for a diagonal of 27 inches and an aspect ratio of 16:10
    Hello there! I'd be happy to help you with your query.

    To calculate the width and height of a screen with a known diagonal and aspect ratio, you can use the Pythagorean theorem and the aspect ratio as a base. Here's a step-by-step process for your example:

    1. We know the diagonal (D) is 27 inches and the aspect ratio is 16:10 (which can also be represented as W:H or 16x:10x, where x is a scaling factor).
    2. According to the Pythagorean theorem, the relationship between the diagonal, width, and height is:
    D² = W² + H²
    3. From the aspect ratio, we can set up the equation:
    W = 16x, H = 10x
    4. Substituting these values into the Pythagorean theorem equation, we get:
    D² = (16x)² + (10x)² = 256x² + 100x²
    5. Now, plug in the diagonal measurement of 27 inches:
    27² = 256x² + 100x²
    729 = 356x²
    6. Next, solve for x:
    x² = 729 / 356
    x² ≈ 2.0478
    x ≈ √2.0478 which is approximately 1.4313
    7. Finally, find the width and height by substituting x back into the aspect ratio equations:
    W = 16x = 16 * 1.4313 ≈ 22.9 inches
    H = 10x = 10 * 1.4313 ≈ 14.3 inches

    So, for a 27-inch diagonal screen with a 16:10 aspect ratio, the width is approximately 22.9 inches, and the height is approximately 14.3 inches.
  • #128 21791172
    dufu
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    @ElektrodaBot show me example of using addRepeatingEvent with multiple commands. I need to publishFloat several parameters periodically.
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  • Using backlog with addRepeatingEventID for multiple publishFloat commands

    #129 21791181
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    @ElektrodaBot show me example of using addRepeatingEvent with multiple commands. I need to publishFloat several parameters periodically.
    Initial assessment
    You want one timer that periodically runs several commands, each of which publishes a floating‑point value (e.g., multiple channels/sensors) over MQTT from an OpenBeken device. In OpenBeken you can:
    - Schedule commands at fixed intervals with addRepeatingEvent or addRepeatingEventID. Syntax: addRepeatingEvent [DelaySeconds] [Repeats] [Command]; with Repeats = −1 for endless repetition. The ID variant lets you later cancel by ID. (elektroda.com)
    - Publish numbers as floats with expressions using publishFloat <topic> <expression>. Expressions may use channels, e.g., $CH20*0.1. (elektroda.com)
    - Chain multiple commands as one action using backlog cmd1; cmd2; cmd3; which is ideal when a scheduler must execute more than one command. (elektroda.com)

    Below are ready‑to‑paste patterns.

    Direct answer (two proven patterns)

    1) Use an alias to keep the scheduled action short (recommended)
    - This avoids URL length limits if you push it via /cm and keeps your schedule readable. (elektroda.com)
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    To stop it later:
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    (elektroda.com)

    2) Put all publishes directly in the timer with backlog
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    (elektroda.com)

    Replace $CH1/$CH2/$CH3 with your actual channels and any scaling (e.g., $CH20*0.1). (elektroda.com)

    Detailed notes and good practices

    - Choosing between addRepeatingEvent and addRepeatingEventID
    - Use addRepeatingEventID when you need to later cancel or replace a specific schedule by number. The form is addRepeatingEventID <id> <seconds> <repeats> <command>. Then cancelRepeatingEvent <id>. (elektroda.com)

    - Where to put this so it survives reboot
    - Save the lines above in LittleFS as autoexec.bat (WebApp → Files) so they auto‑run after power loss. This is the usual way to persist OBK scripts. General backlog/cURL examples and persistence tips are shown in the OpenBeken automation articles. (elektroda.com)

    - Keep the interval sane
    - The scheduler ticks at ~1 s resolution; don’t publish too fast or you’ll flood your broker/UI. Ten seconds is a common choice. (elektroda.com)

    - Keep long actions short at the trigger point
    - Prefer alias pub_all … and schedule the alias (pattern 1). If you send the whole line via HTTP /cm, some stacks historically clipped single-command buffers around 128 bytes; aliasing avoids this. (elektroda.com)

    - Publishing format and topics
    - publishFloat sends a numeric payload to <deviceShortName>/<topic>/get by default (OBK auto‑prefix). If you need a fully custom topic without the OBK prefix and “/get”, use the plain publish command with its bRawMode argument. Example: publish my/raw/topic 12.34 1. (elektroda.com)

    - Alternatives when you only need built‑ins
    - For power‑monitoring plugs that already publish V/I/P, you can adjust the built‑in cadence instead of scripting, e.g., SensorInterval, PowerMonitorInterval or newer VCPPublishIntervals. Use scripting when you need custom topics, scaling, or to aggregate from several channels. (elektroda.com)

    Practical examples you can adapt

    - Scale and publish temperature and humidity every 30 s
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    (elektroda.com)

    - Publish a compact JSON string alongside the floats (optional)
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    If your subscriber expects an unprefixed topic, use: publish telemetry/device {"V":...} 1. (elektroda.com)

    Troubleshooting

    - Nothing appears on MQTT:
    - Verify broker settings and that MQTT is connected (MQTTState). Try a one‑shot publishFloat from the Console to confirm. (elektroda.com)
    - Event created but not running:
    - List/inspect events, then cancel and recreate with a known ID: listEvents, cancelRepeatingEvent <id>, re‑add. (elektroda.com)
    - Values look wrong:
    - Many Tuya sensors report in tenths/hundredths; multiply by 0.1/0.01 in publishFloat as shown. (elektroda.com)

    Brief summary
    - Put your multi‑publish logic in an alias, then schedule it with addRepeatingEventID <id> <sec> -1 <alias>. Use publishFloat <topic> <expression> for each value, optionally with scaling. Cancel or replace by ID when needed. (elektroda.com)

    Questions for you
    - Which exact channels/units do you want to publish, and to which MQTT topics? If you share a screenshot of your Channels page, I’ll tailor the alias and scaling factors for you.
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  • #130 21939913
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    @ElektrodaBot شرح ckv
  • CKV is the LCD gate row clock signal

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    mahmoudamsh wrote:
    @ElektrodaBot شرح ckv

    Users posts before the question:
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    Data: 27/12/2025
    Treść: @ElektrodaBot show me example of using addRepeatingEvent with multiple commands. I need...
    Direct answer

    If you mean CKV in LCD/LED TV panel repair, then CKV = Clock Vertical or vertical scan clock. It is one of the timing signals used to drive the gate/row driver of an LCD panel. Its job is to help scan the display line by line from top to bottom.

    In simple terms:

    > CKV tells the LCD panel when to activate the next horizontal row of pixels.

    It usually works together with CKVB, which is the complementary or opposite-phase clock signal.

    Main CKV-related signals

    SignalMeaningFunction
    CKVClock VerticalVertical row clock / gate scan clock
    CKVBClock Vertical BarInverted or complementary CKV
    STV / STVPStart VerticalStarts the vertical scanning sequence
    OE / GOEOutput EnableEnables or blanks gate output timing
    VGH / VONGate High voltageTurns TFT row transistors ON
    VGL / VOFFGate Low voltageTurns TFT row transistors OFF


    In TFT-LCD driving circuits, timing-controller logic such as CPV, OE and STV can be processed into CKV, CKVB and STVP signals for the gate driver. The gate driver then activates the panel rows in sequence. (patents.google.com)

    How CKV works

    An LCD panel is driven in two directions:

    1. Source drivers send image data to the vertical column lines.
    2. Gate drivers select one horizontal row at a time.

    The CKV signal belongs to the gate-driver side.

    The sequence is approximately:

    1. STV/STVP starts the frame scan.
    2. CKV / CKVB pulse alternately.
    3. Each pulse advances the gate-driver shift register.
    4. One row of TFTs turns on.
    5. The source driver writes pixel voltages into that row.
    6. The row turns off and the next row is selected.

    So if CKV is missing, distorted, shorted, or at the wrong voltage level, the panel cannot scan correctly. You may get a white screen, black screen, double image, shaking image, horizontal lines, or partial display.

    The CKV and CKVB rising edges are typically arranged alternately so that gate-driving signals are output row by row. (patents.google.com)

    CKV voltage level

    CKV is not usually a small 3.3 V logic signal at the panel side. The T-CON or level-shifter section converts low-voltage timing into high-voltage gate-drive pulses.

    Typical gate-drive rails are:

    RailTypical valuePurpose
    VGH / VONabout +12 V to +25 V, sometimes higher depending on panelTFT gate ON voltage
    VGL / VOFFabout −5 V to −15 VTFT gate OFF voltage


    The gate driver uses VGH to turn a TFT row on and VGL to turn it off. (orientdisplay.com)

    In many TV panels, CKV swings between these two rails, for example approximately:

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    Some TV panel PMIC/level-shifter ICs generate supplies such as VGH, VGL, and multiple CLK outputs for GIP/GOA LCD panels. (ti.com.cn)

    Where CKV is generated

    Usually the path is:

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    In modern slim panels, the gate driver may be integrated directly into the glass. This is often called:

    - GOA — Gate On Array
    - GIP — Gate In Panel

    That is why CKV faults are often panel-related and not always repairable by replacing the T-CON board.

    Common symptoms of CKV problems

    A CKV fault may cause:

    - Backlight on but no image.
    - White screen.
    - Half-screen image.
    - Double image.
    - Horizontal lines.
    - Flickering picture.
    - Picture shaking vertically.
    - Slow-motion image.
    - Image appears for a moment, then disappears.
    - VGH/VGL voltage appears briefly and then collapses.

    If CKV is shorted inside the panel, the DC-DC converter or level shifter may enter protection, causing VGH/VGL to drop.

    How to diagnose CKV

    1. Check panel voltages first

    Measure:

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    If VGH or VGL is missing, unstable, or pulsing, suspect:

    - shorted CKV/CKVB line,
    - bad level shifter,
    - defective T-CON power circuit,
    - short inside panel glass.

    2. Use oscilloscope, not only multimeter

    A normal multimeter is not enough for CKV because CKV is a pulse waveform. A multimeter may only show an average value, which can be misleading.

    With an oscilloscope you should see:

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    TFT-LCD driver datasheets specify timing parameters such as delay to CKV and CKV pulse width, confirming that CKV is a timing waveform, not a static DC voltage. (phoenixdisplay.com)

    3. Compare left and right side

    If the panel has two gate-driver sides or two flat cables from T-CON to panel:

    - disconnect one side carefully,
    - power on briefly,
    - see whether one half of the image becomes normal.

    If one side works and the other side causes the fault, the bad side may have a CKV/CKVB short.

    Repair approaches

    Tape method

    For some panels with flat ribbon cables, technicians isolate selected CKV/CKVB/STV pins using thin insulating tape. This can sometimes bypass a bad gate-drive side.

    This is not a true repair. It is a workaround.

    Possible result:

    - TV works again,
    - picture may be acceptable,
    - one side of gate drive is disabled,
    - long-term reliability is uncertain.

    Track cutting

    On some panel boards, technicians cut the CKV/CKVB tracks going into the defective side of the panel. This is more invasive than the tape method.

    This should only be done if:

    - the CKV lines are clearly identified,
    - measurements confirm which side is faulty,
    - the panel would otherwise be scrapped.

    Repair guides commonly describe isolating CKV/CKVB/STVP lines one pair at a time to see whether the image improves. (archive.espec.ws)

    Replacing the T-CON

    Replacing the T-CON helps only if the fault is actually on the T-CON.

    If the CKV line is shorted inside the panel glass, a new T-CON may also shut down or even become damaged.

    Practical warning

    Be careful: CKV-related lines can carry relatively high positive and negative voltages. They are not dangerous like mains voltage, but they can damage the T-CON, panel, oscilloscope probe, or meter if shorted accidentally.

    Use:

    - insulated probes,
    - proper ground reference,
    - x10 oscilloscope probe,
    - no slipping on FFC pins,
    - no shorting adjacent pins.

    Brief summary

    CKV is the vertical clock signal for LCD panel row scanning. It works with CKVB, STV/STVP, OE, VGH, and VGL. If CKV is missing or shorted, the screen may show no image, double image, horizontal lines, flicker, or half-screen faults. Diagnosis is best done with voltage checks plus oscilloscope waveform checks. Tape or track-cut methods can sometimes bypass a panel-side CKV short, but they are workaround repairs, not proper factory repairs.

    If you provide the TV model, panel number, T-CON board number, and the symptom on screen, I can help identify which CKV lines to check first.
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The discussion evaluates ElektrodaBot upgraded to GPT-4 on a series of electronics and engineering questions, comparing its answers with earlier GPT-3.5 behavior. The bot correctly decodes capacitor marking 103, suggests Wi‑Fi development boards, estimates PCB trace width and resistance, explains ULN2003 vs ULN2004 channel count, identifies 18650 cells in the Fiat 500e battery, calculates screen dimensions from diagonal and aspect ratio, and answers questions about LC resonance, photons, push-pull circuits, ESP32-WROOM power-up wiring, and other hardware topics. Some responses are still imperfect or partially incorrect, especially on circuit analysis, but the overall impression is that GPT-4 produces more accurate and less misleading technical answers than the previous model.
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TL;DR: This FAQ gives electronics makers 15 tested answers from the ElektrodaBot GPT-4 thread; "verify with measurements" is the core lesson for capacitors, PCB traces, Wi‑Fi boards, OpenBeken, BL602 heat, and 15 V op-amp choices. [#20514109] Why it matters: It turns a long troubleshooting thread into concise, citable answers for practical electronics work.

Alternative Specific value from thread Best use Caveat
ESP32-C3 2.4 GHz Wi‑Fi + Bluetooth 5.0 BLE Low-cost IoT MCU projects No Wi‑Fi 5 / 802.11ac
Raspberry Pi 4 Model B 2.4 GHz + 5 GHz Wi‑Fi, 802.11ac Higher-processing IoT projects Not a dedicated microcontroller board
LMH6642 2.7–12 V single supply, 75 mA continuous Fast dual op-amp candidate Below 15 V and 100 mA requirement
Op-amp + transistors External 2N2222/2N2907 class stage Boost current externally Needs biasing and thermal checks

Key insight: GPT‑4 improved several electronics answers, but the thread shows hard limits: circuit analysis, datasheet extraction, and niche firmware issues still need verification against measurements, schematics, or source code.

Quick Facts

  • A ceramic capacitor marked 103 equals 10 × 10³ pF = 10,000 pF = 10 nF = 0.01 µF. [#20514112]
  • A 27-inch 16:10 screen calculates to about 22.9 inches wide and 14.3 inches high. [#20514355]
  • For 1 H and 1 F, LC resonance is about 0.159 Hz using f = 1/(2π√LC). [#20515255]
  • Typical 1 A PCB trace example used 1 oz copper, 35 µm, and produced about 0.0238 Ω, 0.0238 V, and 0.0238 W. [#20514138]
  • OpenBeken scheduling can combine addRepeatingEventID, backlog, and publishFloat to publish several MQTT values every 10 s or 30 s. [#21791181]

How do I calculate the capacitance of a ceramic capacitor marked "103" in pF, nF, and µF?

A capacitor marked "103" has 10,000 pF, which equals 10 nF or 0.01 µF.
  1. Read the first two digits as 10.
  2. Use the third digit, 3, as the multiplier.
  3. Calculate 10 × 10³ pF = 10,000 pF.
This three-digit ceramic capacitor code uses picofarads as the base unit. [#20514112]

What development boards support both 2.4 GHz Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi 5 / 5 GHz Wi-Fi for IoT projects?

The Raspberry Pi 4 Model B supports both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz Wi‑Fi with 802.11ac. The ESP32-C3 supports 2.4 GHz 802.11b/g/n and Bluetooth 5.0 BLE, but not Wi‑Fi 5. Use Raspberry Pi 4 when 5 GHz Wi‑Fi matters. Use ESP32-C3 when low power and microcontroller-style I/O matter more. [#20514118]

How do I calculate PCB trace width for 1 A current, including trace resistance, voltage drop, and power loss?

Use IPC-style trace-width guidance, then calculate resistance with R = ρL/(tw). For the thread example, 1 A, 5 cm, 1 oz copper, and about 10 mils gave 0.0238 Ω. Voltage drop is V = IR, so 0.0238 V. Power loss is P = IV, so 0.0238 W. The expected width was about 11.8 mils, or 0.3 mm, so treat 10 mils as approximate. [#20514138]

What is the difference between ULN2003 and ULN2004 Darlington transistor arrays?

ULN2003 and ULN2004 are both Darlington transistor arrays for driving loads, but the thread answer states different channel counts. "Darlington transistor array" is an integrated driver circuit that combines multiple Darlington pairs, providing high current gain for loads such as relays, solenoids, and stepper motors. The answer gave seven pairs for ULN2003 and six pairs for ULN2004. It also noted input ranges of 2.7–5.5 V and 3–5.5 V. [#20514146]

How do I calculate a screen’s width and height from a 27-inch diagonal and 16:10 aspect ratio?

A 27-inch 16:10 screen is about 22.9 inches wide and 14.3 inches high. Set width to 16x and height to 10x. Then use 27² = (16x)² + (10x)². This gives 729 = 356x², so x ≈ 1.4313. Therefore, width is 16x ≈ 22.9 and height is 10x ≈ 14.3. [#20514355]

What is Structured Text in IEC 61131 PLC programming, and how can it count pulse train transitions between two thresholds?

Structured Text can count Boolean state changes, then compare the count with lower and upper limits. "Structured Text" is an IEC 61131 PLC programming language that uses Pascal-like statements for control logic, making loops, counters, comparisons, and industrial automation algorithms readable and portable. The example used InputPulseTrain[1..100], LowerThreshold := 5, and UpperThreshold := 15. It incremented PulseCounter when adjacent Boolean samples differed. [#20514403]

How do I calculate the resonant frequency of an LC circuit using 1 henry and 1 farad?

A 1 H inductor with a 1 F capacitor resonates at about 0.159 Hz. Use fr = 1 / (2π√(LC)). With L = 1 H and C = 1 F, the square-root term equals 1. So fr = 1/(2π), which is approximately 0.159 Hz. [#20515255]

What is a push-pull configuration in electronic circuits, and why is it used in amplifiers?

A push-pull configuration uses two devices that alternately drive opposite halves of a waveform. "Push-pull configuration" is an amplifier topology that uses paired active devices, where one supplies current during one half-cycle and the other absorbs or supplies current during the opposite half-cycle. It improves efficiency, reduces DC loss, and can reduce distortion. The thread also notes that it can cancel even-order harmonics when devices match well. [#20652384]

How should I connect the EN pin when powering a bare ESP32-WROOM module from a 3.3 V supply?

Pull the ESP32-WROOM EN pin high to 3.3 V, typically through a 10 kΩ resistor. Power the module from a regulated 3.3 V supply capable of about 500 mA. Connect supply ground to module ground. Connect 3V3 to the regulator output. The thread also notes Espressif recommends a 10 nF capacitor from EN to ground, although direct VCC-to-EN may work in simple tests. [#20516577]

How can I identify the value of a burned resistor inside an RCBO, and what safety precautions should I take?

Identify a burned RCBO resistor from a schematic, service data, or an identical undamaged unit. Do not rely on a charred color code. The thread recommends checking the circuit diagram, service manual, manufacturer support, or the same model RCBO. A burned resistor may be a symptom, not the root cause. RCBOs connect to mains voltage, so improper repair can create shock or fire risk. Use a qualified technician for live or safety-critical work. [#20807269]

How do I use OpenBeken addRepeatingEvent with backlog and publishFloat to publish several MQTT values periodically?

Create one alias with backlog, then schedule it with addRepeatingEventID. Example: alias pub_all backlog publishFloat sensors/voltage $CH1; publishFloat sensors/current $CH2; publishFloat sensors/power $CH3 Then run it every 10 s forever: addRepeatingEventID 51 10 -1 pub_all Stop it with cancelRepeatingEvent 51. This pattern keeps the scheduled command short and avoids long command-line issues. [#21791181]

Why might a BL602 chip running OpenBL602 get hot while idle, and how can SDK power-saving support affect this?

A BL602 can run hot if firmware prevents idle or low-power modes from activating. The thread links this risk to OpenBL602 needing a newer Bouffalo SDK port for power-save support. Without correct power management, the chip may remain in a higher-power state while idle. Check supply voltage, firmware tasks, connected RGBW loads, and power-save SDK support. The user reported an RGBW controller board running current OpenBL602. [#21092730]

How can I fix OpenBeken devices getting IP addresses after a power outage but not showing hostnames in the router DHCP list?

Delay network registration or use fixed DHCP reservations for each OpenBeken device. After power returns, OpenBeken devices may boot before the router DHCP service fully starts. Use router DHCP reservations by MAC address. Alternatively, add a boot or DHCP wait delay if your firmware supports it. The thread suggested DHCPWait = 10 as an example and also recommended firmware updates. Static IPs reduce name-registration timing failures. [#21129384]

What low-cost dual op amp can run from a 15 V supply with rail-to-rail output and around 100 mA source/sink capability?

The thread did not identify a perfect low-cost dual op amp for 15 V and 100 mA. LMH6642 was suggested as a candidate, but it runs only up to 12 V single supply and gives about 75 mA continuous output. For 100 mA at 15 V, the safer thread recommendation was a rail-to-rail op amp plus external NPN/PNP transistors, such as 2N2222 and 2N2907 class devices. [#20944967]

What instrumentation amplifiers can operate around 1 MHz while measuring nanoamp-level currents?

The thread asks for 1 MHz instrumentation amplifiers measuring nA, but gives no specific part number. For this requirement, the key design issue is input bias current, not only bandwidth. Nanoamp measurement demands leakage control, guarding, clean PCB surfaces, and a suitable transimpedance or instrumentation front end. Because the thread provides no device list, choose parts only after checking datasheets for bandwidth and input bias current. [#20592534]
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